@Mastodon @ECHUS @IOmons

@Mastodon If I may, this sentence is ambiguous

It seems to imply that Threads won't be available in the US, but Threads will definitely be available in the EU — not just at launch (source: https://www.platformer.news/p/meta-unspools-threads)

Maybe it's due to the syntax of the sentence, but I think a clarification/rewrite would be useful

@Mastodon Good explainer and questions and answers are not fluffy PR and pretty hard hitting and honest about the situation.

@Mastodon Thanks. This post is a little confusing though because you discuss Mastodon users following Threads users but then say Threads and Mastodon are not interoperable? So I guess I don't understand if I can follow Threads users or if they can follow me.

@Mastodon Ugh, really?

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XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon.

@Mastodon In short, it means nothing?

@Mastodon This is great. What this sounds like is that when Thread gets federated, we can follow those users on Mastodon to bypass all of Meta's ad and sponsored garbage.

@Mastodon

There were rumours regarding payments from Meta to various instances, which are difficult to confirm or deny due to the NDAs.

Could you set the record straight?

Is Mastodon gGmbH receiving any funds from Meta or anyone connected to Meta?

Will Mastodon gGmbH commit to never taking funds from Meta or anyone connected to Meta?

@Mastodon How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

@Mastodon concise and informative!!! thanks so much 🙏

@Mastodon Thank you for (finally) making an official statement on Threads! This has, at least for me, cleared up a lot of uncertainty and misinformation surrounding the platform. ^^

@Mastodon

@Mastodon Clear and to the point. Thank you.

@Mastodon this is still a mastodon-obsessed post, especially the EEE section.

@Mastodon I love Gargon

@Mastodon This is very helpful. Thanks for compiling and sharing the information.

@Mastodon This is interesting, thanks. So no change for Mastodon users initially. This article just came out about it too:

Instagram launches new Threads platform in direct competition with Twitter
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-06/threads-by-meta-to-rival-twitter/102561536

@Mastodon@mastodon.social If my mom joins, I'll follow her. That's about it.

@Mastodon 👌

@Mastodon Thank you. I found this very clarifying.

@Mastodon

Thanks for clearing this up.

@Mastodon That's very informative! Thank you, John!

@Mastodon

It might just be another social media platform, but the fact that Threads is saying it plans to integrate ActivityPub is encouraging. That sets it apart from others which are just another walled garden.

Assuming they implement it in such a way that allows it to communicate with the fediverse, of course. I'm cautiously optimistic though. If they put a big dent in Twitter, it might even force them to also integrate with the rest of the social internet.

@Mastodon Thank you for the information. I have been wondering if and how Threads would or could affect other Activity Pub servers. This answered many questions.

@Mastodon A) it wasn't me nor anyone I know speculating how these apps work. B) any instances that intentionally connect to Facebook(it isn't Threads, it's Facebook. Stop saying that) in any way will be actively blocked, etc. The entirety of this conversation is dystopic and ridiculous.

How is this even a question? Who actually wants to know how to switch BACK to the networks we left to build this one?

@Mastodon I had no idea Threads was using ActivityPub! Twitter is going to die unless they follow suit.

@Mastodon I believe the most disappointed fact, is that Thread is not available in Europe

@Mastodon This is a great write up @Gargron - thank you!

@Mastodon this would be interesting

@Mastodon I think it's actually a good thing because it brings tremendous visibility to the fediverse. If people like it, they'll stay. Simple as

@Mastodon@mastodon.social Did Facebook write this themselves? This is so disingenous it's funny. What happened in Eugen's NDAed meeting with Facebook? Write about that, until then, hold your bloody wheesht.

@Mastodon will servers be encouraged to have definitive policies on how data from their server can be used that are clear and understandable? I'd like to know that a friend boosting my post, making it visible to a Threads user, and they like it, does not give Meta permission to scrape and reuse my data.

Having such policies as part of running a server would be incredibly welcome if it's not already there.

@Mastodon is it a knitting app? My grandma will love it!

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@Mastodon

Meta is a brutal billion-dollar corporation that thrives on expanding and destroying everything in its path. It won't rest until it has extracted every last user and dollar out of the Fediverse.

By refusing to defederate Threads, you have committed to a path that will end with the destruction of your life's work, and the social connections that people rely on to survive, due to pure naivety.

ActivityPub is the new XMPP. Thanks for nothing.

@Mastodon Informative blog. Thanks!

@Mastodon awesome dude, nice design

@Mastodon

If Facebook aka Meta follows the guidelines as described, how will it use the metaverse to make money?

@Mastodon @thomasfuchs

Excellent post that answers all of my questions. Thank you!

@Mastodon
Given #Meta have a habit of building up tracking profiles on non-users, it's a bit disingenuous to say that #Mastodon users who federate with them won't face privacy issues...

@Mastodon I remain skeptical, but will continue to see what will happen when Threads connect with the fediverse.

@Mastodon
Oh no, and I thought this would link to a tutorial about how to easily create a thread on Mastodon without risking an interruption by another tooter tooting in between.

Or to learn about how to extract and merging into an article a Mastodon thread.

Oh well. 🙄 🤷‍♂️ 😂

@Mastodon Informative.

@Mastodon great read! Glad to hear you and the team are open to Threads interpolating with Mastadon. The fediverse needs a main stream app to help drive adoption!

@Mastodon

So...on the topic of EEE, he says here that if it happens we're basically back where we started. I'm not expert, but it feels like he's overlooking the social aspect of this.

If a huge chunk of our friends are on Threads, and then Meta yanks back support of it, won't mastodon users just switch to Meta to keep their old friendships going?

I think the social capital is the essence of EEE, is it not? For me the lack of adds and freedom is great but I suspect that's not the norm.

@Mastodon Underwhelming.

«It is also not possible for any third party server to insert ad-like posts into your home feed.»

Unless they deliver ads through "normal" posts.

«A server you are not signed up with and logged into cannot get your private data or track you across the web.»

Meaningless sentence as "private data" is not defined; does not seem to speak about "personal data" as in #GDPR sense.

#Instagram, #Facebook can and will track you across the web by linking different identifiers.

@Mastodon

I think it would be useful to include a simple example of how to initiate and participate in threaded posts fellow citizen Mastodon.

As so many others and I are confused.
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@Mastodon will there be a way to merge my threads account with my mastodon account once integration happens? I already made a threads account because a lot of people I follow on twt are making accounts on there and I want those people I follow to be able to be transferred over to this account once threads federates.

@Mastodon

My own (probably unqualified) 2 cents: ActivityPub protocol is open-source, so we can't stop them from using it and asking to federate with other instances. And blocking Meta is, by design, something done on an instance by instance basis. Even if Threads does become the largest AP protocol-based platform - how is that really different from now? If they try to Extend, then they just break connection to the rest of the Fediverse and it's back to being the silo everyone wants to escape.

@Mastodon The death watch for Mastodon begins now, I guess. Was nice while it lasted.

@Mastodon muy válida la aclaración, y muy necesaria ante tanta incertidumbre. Gracias.

@Mastodon and it's available only on Android 9.0.
Which my device won't support that.
Good things mastodon still support my device.

@Mastodon threads is Facebook Twitter… no thanks

@Mastodon super helpful, thanks!!!

@Mastodon I think this is awesome.

Looks like you are smart I apreciate that. A lot.

@Mastodon All the important reasons. How does a sane mind say 'oh, goody' to this?

@Mastodon I love to wear my threads!

@Mastodon@mastodon.social props on a level-headed response. 👏

@Mastodon “Our software is built on the reasonable assumption that third party servers cannot be trusted. For example, we cache and reprocess images and videos for you to view, so that the originating server cannot get your IP address, browser name, or time of access.” ohhhh so that's why it's set up like that

@Mastodon
Seems reasonable

@Mastodon 👍

@Mastodon What personal information of mine does Meta have access to from my Mastodon account?

@Mastodon sounds cool to me.

@Mastodon 🤔🧐

@Mastodon I left Instagram and went to Twitter because it's evil. Now twitter is getting mad. I tried threads. Threads have both. Madness of twitter with the evil of Meta.

I am happy with Mastodon.

@Mastodon
This is great and pretty much answers all my questions. 👏👍

@Mastodon although separate from IG platform, there is an automatic onboarding of your EXISTING IG following profiles once they join Threads.

@Mastodon
I just don't see Threads not falling foul of basic moderation standards on my instance.
Given Meta's poor track record in dealing with hate speech and misinformation, will it really be different?

@Mastodon Threads needs a *lot* of work. I have to say that I'm tired of newer social media platforms not natively supporting threads. Both threads and hashtags emerged from user demands (and their own workarounds), and both are extraordinarily useful for discovery and interaction.

@Mastodon It seems like everyone believes that Threads will be a success. Some people thought that the metaverse was the next big thing not too long ago. We all know how that ended up.

@Mastodon "It will not be available in the EU and will not support federation at launch."

That sounds very suspicious. Will it not be in the EU because it doesn't comply with GDPR? If so, big red flag

@Mastodon cannot stop myself from reading “Threats” everywhere

@Mastodon "This is a clear victory for our cause, hopefully one of many to come." 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@Mastodon Just to kmow 🤷🏻‍♀️

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@Mastodon "XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon."

I hope that is delicious self-irony and no one actually seriously thinks Mastodon is anything but a nerd circle.

@Hiker@social.fedcast.ch @viennawriter@literatur.social

Mal sehen ob es ein wenig Klarheit bringt

@Mastodon@mastodon.social

@Mastodon I think it's like the WTO's relationship with China, welcoming it in while reserving all possibilities for sanctions and deciding how to treat it based on its performance.

@Mastodon tried to sign up to threads "your account is suspended" right afterwards and they want my mobile number to appeal it. Screw that.

@Mastodon Yes hello will there be hyperthreading? Is this dangerous??

@Mastodon @David une explication claire sur ce que peut donner Threads du point de vue de Mastodon...
Mais ça n'empêche pas la panique...

@Mastodon welcome 🎉

@Mastodon Spin it any way you like, Rocko sold you all out.

@Mastodon Nice article!

FYI there's a small typo in
"However, it is up to the operator of the Mastodon server ***you’re are*** using to decide whether to allow communication with Threads or not."

@Mastodon and ironically despite the long explanations, Thread which is just launched, is already more popular than Mastodon

@Mastodon The fact that Threads is not available in EU at launch causes me to worry. EU is generally stronger on consumer protection than most other regulators. What EU requirement are they failing to meet?

@Mastodon well, it’s a lot more complicated than i realised.
thanks for the info

@Mastodon If you will federate with Meta I will move to another Instance

@Mastodon
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@Mastodon

@Mastodon

> Threads is a separate app from Facebook, WhatsApp, and Instagram. This means Threads’ user base will be separate from their existing platforms. Instagram users however can sign-in using their Instagram accounts.

So, not separate, then. Same user base.

@Mastodon Maybe they think it to peaceful here.