@Mastodon

Thanks for this compilation that addressed the Qs I've had. 👏

@Mastodon Klingt so als hätte der META-Konzern (Facebook, Whatsapp, Instagram) jetzt eine Konkurrenz zu Twitter aufgesetzt 😱

@Mastodon : I predict an oozing, pollutant effect on the Fediverse and find the whole idea of this Meta offspring to be parasitic in a bad sci-fi sort of way. Attack of the Zuckerblob. No thanks.

@Mastodon I'm still of the mindset it can only help the Fediverse they adopted ActivityPup for their app. I for one am looking forward to welcome Threads users to my timeline and follow some of them. I can block or mute what I don't want to see later and Mastodon has a wide variety of filters for others.

@Mastodon it'd be all well and good, but NOT WITH META. How could you say it's a victory for YOUR cause (definitely nor ours) when Meta is the home of countless LAW, freedom and privacy violations, and after THEY filtered out Mastodon promoting posts on Facebook the first way? Don't dare to say it was an AI error. It happened with Pixelfed too. This just really makes me disgusted.

Looks like you really don't want to be held responsible for this move. Again, disgusting move. #AntiMeta

@Mastodon ok

@Mastodon it was obvious that Threads will be a data kraken but I still enjoy that they are pushing the fediverse with their inclusion of pubsub.

I gave Threads a shot this morning and I must say for now the community is pretty nice and the overall simplicity of the app feels good.

As soon as Pubsub is integrated I'll make the switch completely to mastodon and follow people on Threads.

@Mastodon It would be nice if Mastodon would no longer use React or any other "Meta" code.

@Mastodon I believe their ultimate aim is to fagocitate mastodon users

@Mastodon Great read. Covers all the Qs I had In Mind.

@Mastodon 🔥🔥🔥

@Mastodon Not a fan at all of the data #threads collects. Compared to #Mastadon, stay away from Threads IMO

@Mastodon it means y'all finished

@Mastodon "We expect that eventually Mastodon and Threads will be interoperable, and from a technical standpoint, users will be able to follow each other and exchange messages."

Do you also expect that Threads will actually allow people to migrate to a different server, bringing along their followers? Could Threads not leave out support for that part of ActivityPub?

@Mastodon community based or corporate based communication platform… I choose community based.

@Mastodon I haven't been following closely, but I don't get the vitriol towards #Threads. Assuming for the moment that they _will_ implement #ActivityPub, properly, then isn't that what we *wanted?* It will allow anyone on Threads to follow anyone on another #Fediverse instance and vice versa, and to port their account elsewhere if they want to.

I think it's possible that they believe they have to, to comply with the DSA. It seems premature to just assume they will be bad Fediverse citizens.

@Mastodon Europe's answer: NIMBY. ;-)

@Mastodon @Gargron small error in your statement here

@Mastodon

"Embrace, extend, and extinguish" (EEE), also known as "embrace, extend, and exterminate", is a phrase that the US DOJ used to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences in order to strongly disadvantage its competitors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

#EEE #socialMedia

@Mastodon Printing out this whole post so I can reflect on it later, on the day I find out that Meta, on some future steering committee, or through some other influence, desires some changes to ActivityPub or UX that’s going to screw it up for all of the small instances. Feeling it in my bones mate. Meta can’t be trusted. Bubble ‘em.

@Mastodon what does it mean that Threads will be on the same infra and what are the implications for users?

Easier cross platform publishing and viewing of content?

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@Mastodon

>XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon.

People have already said similar about Mastodon. It could be stated like this in the future.

@Mastodon thanks for cold-headed analysis

@Mastodon
If its anything like that TV film it's gonna be horrific

@Mastodon

Threads will not be available in the EU as it breaks GDPR…

https://m.independent.ie/business/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/a1927220337.html

@Mastodon

Threadworms anyone?

@Mastodon Ya'll could just ignore #Threads really... I doubt most of the #Mastodon userbase will miss it.

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@Mastodon Funny Threads are not available in Europe

@Mastodon @stroughtonsmith So once we will be able to connect Mastodon to Threads does this mean that we will see duplicated entries from everyone that we follow on both servers?

@Mastodon please let us know more and is this a positive app to add to our social media.

@Mastodon Fediverse is going to be adopted by a tech giant and the others will be following the lead

@Mastodon excellent, thank you?

@Mastodon What does it actually mean to say that it's not available in the EU? If, theoretically, I were to sideload the android app would I be able to use it? Is there no Web interface?

@Mastodon I would be shocked if Threads joined the fediverse. :pingunootnoot:

@Mastodon Not really convinced that threads is not a threat. The Power imbalance has to be adressed in a meaningful way otherwise it will be Meta embrace-extend-extinguishing the ActivityPub protocol

@Mastodon well this big challenge now. Twitter Mastodon Threads 🤔

@Mastodon I am more skeptical about Meta playing fair than I am about the possible existence of aliens on earth 👽 😂

@Mastodon one part of this isn't quite accurate - Threads' userbase is not separate from Instagram's, it uses the same social graph. You are required to have an Instagram account to log in.

@Mastodon

Threads sounds like a generic knock off. What #mastadon has here is something pure. This whole #Fediverse is new, but it reminds me of the old days of the internet. More like the wild west. Personally, I think this is a superior product.

@Mastodon I love you guys and i'm not getting out of here to sell more informations do z******* kisses from brazil

@Mastodon Not sure what #instagramthreads will imply for #mastodon in the longterm. I can add that it does not bode well for #instagram giving me notifications everytime someone posts on an app I didn’t download……

@Mastodon I say this as a huge ActivityPub user, Mastodon especially: holy shit you have an overinflated unwarranted confidence in the power of Mastodon as a brand versus the power of megacorps to screw shit up

@Mastodon well put:

"The fact that large platforms are adopting ActivityPub is not only validation of the movement towards decentralized social media, but a path forward for people locked into these platforms to switch to better providers."

There is a cargo cult with these social networks that has caused people to forget that social networking is a human activity and should not be corralled by one company or one tool.

@Mastodon not available in the EU? I see this as an absolute win

@Mastodon, "There was a time when users of Facebook and users of Google Talk were able to chat with each other and with people from self-hosted XMPP servers" — no, there wasn’t, FB’s XMPP implementation was non-federating from the start until the day they switched it off. You always needed to log in with your FB account, and you never could message anyone non-@facebook.com.

@Mastodon Thanks, extremely useful clarifications.

@Mastodon "Remember, in the word ' threADS ', there is an arrangement of letters: 'THREe' + 'ADS'. 'THREE' platforms are involved: Instagram, Facebook, and Thread, to sell your privacy in cookies, cache, and interest data to ADvertisements."

@Mastodon Here is all I need to know. The same guy who allows nazis to say whatever they want on facebook is the same guy who owns threads. If you support nazis you are a nazi.

@Mastodon thanks for the propaganda piece.

@Mastodon Thanks 🙏

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@Mastodon Thank you!

@Mastodon I just joined. After a final attempt to get back on Twitter I decided to just join threads. Looks like many of the people I want to follow on Twitter are joining threads at a fast clip. Some of them were on Mastodon after suspension from Twitter but they got their accounts back. And forgot. I never understood why I was suspended from Twitter but all the vicious trolls appear to have gotten their accounts back. I do love Mastodon and will keep posting here too.

@Mastodon Maybe there are some questions but there are way more industry veterans who have been on the other side of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish plays like this who see it coming a mile away and are frustrated that you don't. Embrace Extend Extinguish always plays on the arrogance and ego of the orgs it absorbs. The Instagram founders didn't expect FB to break all of their promises and oust them while seizing control, either.

@Mastodon @Gargron if I am an Instagram user and accumulate a following there from my existing network, can I move all those followers to a different instance and keep the relationships while abandoning the Threads part? How can I leverage the portability to bring users off Threads to a better instance?

@Mastodon love and fully agree with the stance you guys state at the end of the blog post. excited to be able to see externally posted content from the safety and comfort of my own instance in the future :) go activitypub!

@Mastodon pity you got it wrong.

An Instagram account is required to make a Threads account. Therefore backwards tracking is built in on Thread accounts from day 1.

@Mastodon I believe mastodon is still far better!

@Mastodon
I think this is going to be a really interesting phase for the Fediverse and Mastodon. Personally, I do not use Mastodon as much as I use Twitter simply because the users and content I enjoy the most is not as abundant on Mastodon. I know this is the case for many other users too. They want to switch off of Twitter, but the content is lacking on other platforms. Threads may be the change the Fediverse needs to be competitive against Twitter.

@Mastodon

"XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon."

uhhhhh..... hate to break it to you guys but Mastodon/Lemmy surely only exists inside nerd circles. I don't know a single person in real life who knows what these things are.

@Mastodon given how many users have both Instagram and Mastodon accounts, isn’t there a high risk of collision meaning users will either have to maintain two different accounts (unlikely) or pick which of the two to retain? I can’t imagine merging the two will be feasible

@Mastodon Reading the article I guess #Threads poses no #threats 😉

@Mastodon fuck zuck and muck

@Mastodon on the comparison with XMPP, XMPP loves on as the messaging foundation for many personal, enterprise & gaming platforms. Early on, companies like Antepo were bought & folded into commercial enterprises, Adobe messaging service in their case. A variant of XMPP lives in Zoom. The real question is, long term will ActivityPub interoperability have a viable business case or will the protocol & server implementations power smaller, isolated branded experiences?

@Mastodon this doesn't answer the question

@Mastodon

@Mastodon I am skipping Threeads.

@Mastodon so far I like thread’s better because I don’t know anyone that actually uses this app 😕

@Mastodon
A quick quiestion, anybody! :kirby:

Some people have said that large instances like mastodon.social will be affected by Threads. Is that true?

I'm a baby in tech stuff, so pweese help me clear up such matter? :cwy:

@Mastodon please for the love of God block threads

@Mastodon not for me! They won't or can't stop spoiling the social media for BIG profit, actually that goes for most when they have BIG money shareholders! The Cambridge analytics stunt should point the way, it's controlled by money!
BTW, I started in the internet for a living in 1993 having a .co.uk domain, IP address & server soon after! It was not the way it should have gone! BIG money ruined it!

@Mastodon We highly appreciate you, Mastodon Team and will continue to support!!

@Mastodon I prefer Mastodon as my preferred social media since it's a more privacy focused platform and has nicer ui wereas threads is opposite of Mastodon, I mean threads is being developed by Mark Zuckerberg 🤦‍♂️

@Mastodon I feel that the strategic threat of EEE has not been sufficiently explored and answered in this post.

@Mastodon I doubt people will stay on Threads long, but in my honest opinion, Threads and Mastodon are two different things. Bluesky, on the other hand…

@Mastodon Wow.

This is garbage.

@Mastodon

Does someone know how the #fediverse works? How transitive is it?

Suppose server S1 federates with server S2, which federates with server S3, but S1 does not federate with S3. User U1 on server S1 sends message M1. User U2 on server S2 responds with message M2.

Can user U3 on server S3 see both messages M1 and M2, or only message M2, or none of them? Can user U3 reply to message M1 or M2 or both? If yes, will user U1 see it?

#meta #threads #mastodon #activitypub

@Mastodon

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https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790923/facebook-meta-woman-daughter-guilty-abortion-nebraska-messenger-encryption-privacy

@Mastodon 😧😧

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@Mastodon threads is mid af.

That's great to connect threads and mastodon, but when?