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Fedi.Tips 🎄 replied to O. Simard-Casanova in English

@osc @ThePlant

Objecting to mass surveillance is extremist? 😱

Liam replied to Fedi.Tips

@feditips @osc so you never use a single thing Microsoft have contributed time or money towards?

Fahri Reza replied to Liam

That's the very definition of too big to fail, sure they spy on you but have you not benefit from them even a bit?

@ThePlant @feditips @osc

Shanie replied to Liam

@ThePlant @feditips @osc What kind of hostile question is that?

Here, I can do that too: Because you use GitHub, you deserve everything Microsoft throws at you.

See? That doesn’t help.

Here’s the facts: Non-profits trusting for-profits has historically not worked out well for non-profits because they have fundamentally different goals. To accept money from them is trusting them in some capacity, and that money absolutely influences decisions.

O. Simard-Casanova in English replied to Fedi.Tips

@feditips @ThePlant Once again, can you answer to the things I actually said, instead of answering to strawmen?

unexpectedteapot replied to O. Simard-Casanova in English

@osc @feditips @ThePlant absolutely not an extremist position to hold prejudice against companies that spy on, leak information of and break users' trust. Additionally, these open source projects are beneficial to these profit-driven companies. From open-washing, to attempts at patenting (remember when Facebook tried to patent React?), to other decisions that come from a conflict of interest (Chrome being used as a vehicle for Google to control the web like nerfing adblockers, FLoC, and more..)

Γιάννης Εκελδεκερές replied to O. Simard-Casanova in English

@osc In 2017 Meta (Facebook then) did not lift a finger to prevent the ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar that was being incited on their web site. This is pretty well documented by the UN and Amnesty International. Not wanting any relation with the product of that organization is not extremist. The extremist position is to say everything is fine when we have so much evidence to the contrary. @feditips @ThePlant

Sally Strange replied to O. Simard-Casanova in English

@osc @feditips @ThePlant this is a hell of a cop-out from a purely debate perspective

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