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So...on the topic of EEE, he says here that if it happens we're basically back where we started. I'm not expert, but it feels like he's overlooking the social aspect of this.

If a huge chunk of our friends are on Threads, and then Meta yanks back support of it, won't mastodon users just switch to Meta to keep their old friendships going?

I think the social capital is the essence of EEE, is it not? For me the lack of adds and freedom is great but I suspect that's not the norm.

Like 6 Jul 2023 at 0:55 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

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EdenDestroyer (He/Him)

@PersistentDreamer @Mastodon he is using very bad faith arguments on this subject, some that are strawperson as well.

All with an intention to diminish the difference between activitypub and mastodon.

"uhhh we would still be here if EEE did happen, but it wonttt pinky promise :D We will be here as mastodon, dont worry folks"

brand survivorship at play.

#mastodon

6 Jul 2023 at 1:29 | Open on solarpunk.moe

persistentdreamergames

@edendestroyer @Mastodon

Or perhaps good faith to bad people. Zuck doesn't deserve any good faith.

6 Jul 2023 at 2:08 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

StuartB

@PersistentDreamer
@Mastodon
There are more than a few people here who walked away from our friends on FB/Twitter because we had massive problems with those companies.
Why would we go running back?

6 Jul 2023 at 11:31 | Open on social.teamb.space

persistentdreamergames

@stuartb @Mastodon

Well I think it's one thing to walk away from the beginning and another thing entirely to walk away when the relationship online is already established. I think at least that's what Meta is thinking.

In my case, I left Facebook shortly after they opened it up from just colleges only and they made their first round of changes in the privacy policy. So I've kept those relationships offline already. Twitter I joined a week before throttling happened so leaving was lower risk

6 Jul 2023 at 13:03 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

persistentdreamergames

@stuartb @Mastodon

I also assumed that I was the exception to the rule and went strictly mastodon where I assumed most people use multiple social media sites.

I think the more solidified those relationships are, the more likely someone is to leave. Even so, the flip side of that question is, isn't interacting with / joining threads pretty much running back to them anyway, if not in a slightly milder sense?

6 Jul 2023 at 13:06 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

StuartB

@PersistentDreamer
@Mastodon
And that is precisely the reason a lot of instance admins, including myself, are blocking them by default.

6 Jul 2023 at 13:42 | Open on social.teamb.space

persistentdreamergames

@stuartb @Mastodon

Well that is the reason why decentralized is strictly better. The admins that block it like your will be fine at least for now. But I think there will still be plenty that don't choose to do that. I also think there's a threshold where as long as enough of the threads stuff makes an impact, it could still damage Mastodon's overall reputation and adoption.

I hope I'm wrong.

6 Jul 2023 at 14:46 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place