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O. Simard-Casanova in English
@Mastodon If I may, this sentence is ambiguous It seems to imply that Threads won't be available in the US, but Threads will definitely be available in the EU — not just at launch (source: https://www.platformer.news/p/meta-unspools-threads) Maybe it's due to the syntax of the sentence, but I think a clarification/rewrite would be useful 51 comments
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
 
bugbear
@karrbs The article could literally say "Threads is not currently available in EU." they could also add "There hasn't been any announcement when or if Meta plans to make Threads available in the EU" Or they could communicate in any other clear way. I don't understand what's so confusing to you.
Lonus :verified:
@jerry did they say why it won't participate in the fediverse at launch ? I thought that was their main focus 🤔
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
@lonus no, but that is the same story I’ve been hearing for a while. Guessing they want to get their userbase situated before opening the flood gates  
BeAware :veriweed:
BeAware :veriweed:
@supernovae @jerry @lonus I'd love to be wrong, but I didn't see this anywhere. Everything I've seen told me that #Threads would support ActivityPub. Even the sign up process has #fediverse in it. That tells me that hat this was an early launch and not ready. If #Twitter hadn't imploded, this app would have dropped in a few months with #activitypub in tow.
supernovae
This is exactly why I made an effort to contact Meta. There was no way in hell I was going to sit around and wonder if my world would blow up if they launched. That just isn't sane to wait and see when I owe it to my users and the community to be prepared for what I can prepare for. I knew it was always a delayed launch for activitypub federation on threads and so did the media publications from the verge and other blogs.
BeAware :veriweed:
@supernovae ah, so you knew (before this week) that the app was launching sooner rather than later? Interesting. Source? You're saying words with no receipts.
supernovae
And this is why discovery is such a disaster here ;) (i'm being snarky because my talking to meta got me death threats and defederated and front page on almost every instance) I blogged about the side story here and what we talked about on https://blog.universeodon.com
BeAware :veriweed: replied to supernovae
@supernovae hug of death? Site inaccessible. Will bookmark. Thanks for the link.
supernovae replied to BeAware
@BeAware yeah, i think write.as is under load from lots of activity going on - hopefully, the page will load for you in a few mins. I tend to blog a lot about our stuff - which i need to go update the people search blog here once their servers catch up.
BeAware :veriweed: replied to supernovae
@supernovae I did read it. At least the most recent one. What I was expecting was actual quotes from something saying "Threads will launch soon without federation and activitypub will be added later". That was the receipts I was looking for, not that you actually talked to meta. That, I believed. My concern from your blog, however, is the trust you give #Meta. Their track record shows that the positive discussion you've had with them are just fluff to quell concerns. 🤷🏻♂️
BeAware :veriweed: replied to BeAware
@supernovae furthermore, it's concerning that people who control so many peoples data, trust the people who have exploited that data for years. And that's what you're wrong for, and should apologize to your users for taking their data security so lightly. #fediverse #madtodon #Meta #Threads 
Chris Young
Oliver (FKK positiv 🏖️)
@osc EU-people on birdsite told that they got access with a european account by simply installing and starting the APK.
RussianDeepStateSock
@oliver @osc omg I had to say, I LOVE your profile pic. Borrowing classical antifascist symbols and applying the NATO flag to it, as if *NATO* is antifascist in any way, shape, or form, is one of the most utterly depraved things I've ever seen. Congrats! Yes the countries who are most associated with growing fascism today are, themselves, anti fascist. Yupppp. 😭🤣 No nazis in Ukraine, no.
Oliver (FKK positiv 🏖️)
@Milkman76 @osc Fighting fascism has become complex on so many levels. The relapse into infatuation with nations worries me.
RussianDeepStateSock
@oliver @osc fighting fascism isnt that complex, as they arent really hiding what they are doing anymore, where, or to whom. It stands out more today than since WW2 - the last time fascists started a war. I think you think I am under the misapprehension that russia = fascists and ukraine = an innocent, totally not involved with US foreign policy/NATO country that the US state dept wants us to see as blonde, blue eyed heroes. Im not under that misapprehension and understand history, thanks.
Telegram sigue siendo mejor.
@Milkman76 @oliver @osc I am from Spain. Our nazi local party (v-o-x) is third political force. ... There are a lot of idiots who can only look after their butt. If we mess things up the facists will return and will destroy us all. Don't thing we are not in danger because of we learned in the WWII, a lot of people who lived and remember the horror are, sadly, dead. Fascism is a dead threat.
Oliver (FKK positiv 🏖️)
@Milkman76 @osc @SrPICHAku I am aware of the toleration of neo-Nazi structures in Ukraine. I know that what happened to the minorities in the country was largely swept under the table in the west and is now been kept quiet after the invasion.
@DBG3D@mas.to
@oliver @Milkman76 @osc @SrPICHAku A real communist doesn't hate Russia or its population. They gave their lives to end the WWII in way bigger numbers than the Americans. America DESTROYED two cities with weapons of mass destruction. A real communist find Putin a despicable man as bad as Hitler. But with a hint of reason, USA / NATO (their international armed branch) have expanded to the east without control agisnt signed treaties
Oliver (FKK positiv 🏖️)
@DBG3D @Milkman76 @osc @SrPICHAku Nor do I harbor an aversion to the Russian-born people. My impression is not determined by what anyone spreads about comrades, my impression is determined by what just those anti-Western communists in my latitudes reveal in far too wide parts: A far-reaching indifference to what an imperialist regime does in invaded countries - as long as it is not part of NATO.
Oliver (FKK positiv 🏖️)
@DBG3D @Milkman76 @osc @SrPICHAku These people, who today provide massive inequality and repression in the Russian sphere, have never paid a blood toll. From me there is no acquittal by descent.
@DBG3D@mas.to
@oliver @Milkman76 @osc @SrPICHAku Then blame the ones providing such inequality: the oligarchs and Putin.
Oliver (FKK positiv 🏖️) replied to @DBG3D@mas.to
@DBG3D @Milkman76 @osc @SrPICHAku Sure, that's what I do.
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@mexicancartel @osc @Mastodon Thanks for the link. The Fediverse is already split in two. It's Mastodon that's vulnerable to Meta, not the rest of the Fedi. So many smaller Plemora instances filter the large mastodon instances from the global timeline anyway and do so for many reasons. Nobody even notices or cares what happens here, not do they give a crap about threads. On my accounts I block mastodon.social for the same reason I'd never use twitter. It is twitter.
supernovae
@snack @mexicancartel @osc @Mastodon why are you replying to a post about mastodon from mastodon dot social about meta which you say you don't care about? (just curious lol)
Folker
@mexicancartel @osc @Mastodon This article sounds to me like a scapegoat: "Our OSS software failed, but not because it was too nerdy and people preferred a commercial software, but because we didn't wall off our OSS."
Anirban
@folkerschamel @mexicancartel @osc @Mastodon It seems like they didn't have enough users to sustain their platform in the first place.
@DBG3D@mas.to
@folkerschamel @mexicancartel @osc @Mastodon Supporting widespread blocking is completly needed when you have the USA becoming the 4th Reich and trying to impose it on everyone elses. If you want to be a Nazi is your problem. The rest of the world hates them and they will be stopped.
mexicancartel
@folkerschamel @osc @Mastodon mastodon will serve as the content for meta threads users initially. From there we they will gain lot of users(by ads and through instagram), which serves as the user base for future content, and i guess they will themselves de federate from other instances, pulling more users into them. I think its better to not let them in the first place.
mexicancartel
@folkerschamel @osc @Mastodon OSS principles or free software principles are not affected as OSS is developement method and free software is freedom in running and modifying our software, none aligns with defederating a privacy invasive company from ourself
Folker
@mexicancartel @osc @Mastodon #threads has more sign-ups in the first 24 hours than #mastodon had during its whole lifetime and they haven't even integrated with the #fediverse yet. I can assure you, they don't need any content or users from #mastodon. Right now I don't see any other explanation than idealism that they work on #activitypub integration.
Jérémie Gaven
Always relevant at the right time, thanks @ploum. Only fight when we can win, and when it's ... relevant. |
Gregory's Server
@Mastodon (It's a very good point otherwise, than you for publishing it!)