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rigrig

@Mastodon Ugh, really?

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XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon.

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Alexander Trivia Dragonson

@rigrig @Mastodon I'm reading that as "Google and Facebook killed XMPP by getting nearly all XMPP users onto proprietary platforms before they shut it down. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the Fediverse will never belong to Google or Facebook, even if I, Gargron, personally sell out."

Is that an accurate translation, and is there a good reason to believe it?

spaduf

@WizardOfDocs @rigrig @Mastodon It really sounds like he thinks the Mastodon brand is sufficient to prevent EEE. I think he's forgetting just how unpopular most of the opinionated features of Mastodon are.

Folker

@spaduf @WizardOfDocs @rigrig @Mastodon

If a software is unpopular, then walling it off by blocking #federation servers won't save it.

rigrig

@WizardOfDocs @Mastodon I read it as "XMPP was only used by a bunch of nerds anyway, which became clear once Facebook and Google pulled out. But they can't do the same to the Fediverse, because Mastodon is way better."

Right now we can¹ block Meta and explain it to users ("Sorry, Threads/Tiktok/Twitter/etc. aren't part of our network").
I wonder what the plan is when Meta Extends ActivityPub once half of .social is following people on .threads…

¹and should

@WizardOfDocs @Mastodon I read it as "XMPP was only used by a bunch of nerds anyway, which became clear once Facebook and Google pulled out. But they can't do the same to the Fediverse, because Mastodon is way better."

Right now we can¹ block Meta and explain it to users ("Sorry, Threads/Tiktok/Twitter/etc. aren't part of our network").
I wonder what the plan is when Meta Extends ActivityPub once half of .social is following people on .threads…

Alexander Trivia Dragonson

@rigrig @Mastodon ...so, glitch fork's evil twin. How many people actually use Glitch again?

rigrig

@WizardOfDocs Looking at my server's stats… at least 1!

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