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Eugen Rochko

Just for expectations management: Our Android app, like the iOS one, is oriented towards new users as well as people who primarily use Mastodon through their home feed. If you rely on local/federated timelines to use Mastodon, you won't find it useful.

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Andrea Margiovanni

@Gargron aaaaand ok, we got it. It make sense.

github.com/mastodon/mastodon-i

Speaking ‘bout other features: would it be possible in the future to have link previews like on Metatext or Toot App? 🖖🏻♥️

Alessio :linux:

@Gargron I'm very curious about this product decision, is that supported by some metrics or is it arbitrary? If the latter is true, what are the criteria that led you or anybody to decide so?

大鹅委员会唯一指定账号 :goose_walk:

@Gargron I've tried the android app, and to be honest, I don't think it's good for new users on smaller instances. New users on small instances relies on local timeline, or even federated timeline if you speak a language with relatively lesser users, to catch toots they're interested in (not just those got boosted more times), especially when search on mastodon is delibrately weakened. I understand local or federated timeline is fuzzy and noisy on large instances like mastodon.social, but smaller instances would need this. Would you please at least allow users to open or close it?

@Gargron I've tried the android app, and to be honest, I don't think it's good for new users on smaller instances. New users on small instances relies on local timeline, or even federated timeline if you speak a language with relatively lesser users, to catch toots they're interested in (not just those got boosted more times), especially when search on mastodon is delibrately weakened. I understand local or federated timeline is fuzzy and noisy on large instances like mastodon.social, but smaller...

Eugen Rochko

Intending to submit our Android app to the Play Store for review today 🤞

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strabon

@Gargron Fdroid is considered, thx :)) Using Librem Social & Tusky. Looking forward to try it. About "Push notification"; android with MicroG works well with this. Some apps are using their own notification code (Ex. Threema). Its an extra background ptocess, but Im personally ok with it. Good luck with all

Eugen Rochko

Starting with Mastodon 3.5, we no longer try to auto-detect your posting language. It defaults to your interface language, unless overriden by setting it explicitly per-post in the API, or setting in Preferences -> Other.

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西卡卡 :vip7: :verified_neko:

@Gargron It seems that only the toots posted by people using the same Interface Language as you can show up in the Explore Tab. For example, if someone posted a Chinese toot using an English interface, only those who also use English interface can see that Chinese toot in the Explore Tab. It doesn't make much sense to me. Is it a bug or is it intentional?

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Eugen Rochko

Our iOS app has entered Top 200 free Social Networking apps in Finland and Czech Republic. Hopefully just the beginning!

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44cea44

@Gargron keep fixing things that need fixing. I really like it here. After Musk, expect more people to register on your app. 🥰

Eugen Rochko

The "sign-in token" authentication scheme, where you had to enter a code from an e-mail if logging in from a new IP address, created too many issues, so in 3.5.1 we're going back on it. Instead, you'll just get an e-mail about a new sign-in if it's from a new IP address.

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Eugen Rochko

We're also bringing back e-mail notifications for mentions and follows being on by default, but now we won't send an e-mail if you already have an app that gets push notifications or you're connected to the web app.

44cea44

@Gargron can I do volunteer work for Mastodon? I speak two languages. :trans_heart:

MOVED TO CYBRE.SPACE

@Gargron Eugen could you add the blobcathug emote to .social please

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Kiwiguy

@Gargron I joined yesterday too. The Elon news was really just the straw. It’s hard to know if I’ll keep using Mastodon, but it’s worth trying to get over the learning curve of walled garden to whatever the hell a fediverse is.

eobet

@Gargron how is the projected economics of scale? Can the current donations handle a large influx of video and photo posting users? Thinking about storage and bandwidth costs if things get even more popular…

Doncho Gunch≡𝕧

@Gargron unfortunately that won't bring the best kine of users here …

Eugen Rochko

The good news is that our Android app development is moving really fast and we’re only missing the settings screen now. I think it’s reasonable to expect the app to launch within the month.

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MeKobi

@Gargron If I had know there is no Android app, not sure if I would have joined. But hey, hurry up! 🙂

Eugen Rochko

We’re going to try to hurry and release the Android app as soon as possible. And yes, we’ll try to publish it on @fdroidorg as well.

mint

@Gargron been using the beta for a few days. it's good! i'm sure this will make introducing mastodon to new users really easy.

Eugen Rochko

Even two years on, I still have no idea which direction #Bluesky is intending to go. Though it seems like if they wanted to adopt an existing protocol, they would've already done so.

I'll only say that the challenges of building a decentralized social network are anywhere but the actual protocol. Mastodon started on one protocol, then switched to another. Decisions that matter are in product design. Marketing.

If they propose a new protocol, what would make it worth resetting all that to zero?

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Malcolm Bastien

@Gargron I'd like to see less "designing the perfect system for one day maybe" and more adoption of Matrix and Mastodon as "the best options available today"

People will agree and say "Things should be distributed" on their Twitter account or on Discord but they won't say "...but right now, today, you can go and create an account on Mastodon."

Rysiekúr Memesson 🇺🇦

@Gargron the aim of BlueSky seems to be to create a decentralized, federated social network that is controlled and monetized by a single entity.

In other words, to square a circle.

So this is going exactly as well as could be expected. 😉

clacke: looking for something 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛
Nobody with billions of USD in cash and 200 million active users to leverage is starting from scratch.

Product design and marketing are trivial compared to figuring out what BlueSky is supposed to be good for.

I think the endgame for Twitter is to be able to have 200 million monetizable active users and at the same time be able to say that if you talk to some who advocates genocide they can say it's not their fault because it's decentralized and they're a common carrier.
Nobody with billions of USD in cash and 200 million active users to leverage is starting from scratch.

Product design and marketing are trivial compared to figuring out what BlueSky is supposed to be good for.
Eugen Rochko

We crossed 700 ratings for the iOS app with a 4,4/5 average!

Jon Henshaw

@Gargron Congrats! It’s a very well done app. I’m using it now 😀

cvog

@Gargron
Well done!! Great app indeed. Also currently using it!

Eugen Rochko

Having English Breakfast Tea for breakfast (in Germany)

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flutergork🌻️🇨🇦️ 🇺🇦

@Gargron It's better than Earl Grey, or so my taste buds tell me.

Kaito

@Gargron my favorite is Irish Breakfast Tea (there's no such thing except to market tea to Americans)

Unhinged

@Gargron Wonder if one can have German Breakfast Tea in the UK?

Eugen Rochko

Coordinating 3 product launches :wyd:

Tagomago

@Gargron Oh, btw, do you guys plan distributing the Android app on F-Droid?

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Wonderfall

@Gargron Might be worth noting than compiling C++ extensions for Ruby 3.0.x fails on musl-based systems: bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/1778

(For now I maintain a simple patch to backport the fix: github.com/Wonderfall/docker-m)

Thanks for the work. :)

Henry

@Gargron Didn't it just release minutes ago?😋

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杰娃娃

@Gargron really not a big fan of this. There seems to be a lot of wasted space

Eugen Rochko

We're at 664 ratings across all countries. Would be nice to get that into 5 digits too...

Eugen Rochko

With the amount of care, effort and just plain old money put into the iOS app I'm very emotionally invested in its success. I've been using it daily since the first build and I'm personally convinced it's the best Mastodon app that's out there, at least for how I use Mastodon.

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Louis R. Couture

@Gargron it definitely the best, only thing lacking IMHO is a fed timeline.

Since this is a SwiftUI, any plans to bring it to mac as well? All the others apps, they are electron, and then there is Mastonaut, but you can’t post toots longer than 500 even if your server allows for more.

ᛋᛟᚾ ᛟᚠ ᛋᛁᚠ

@Gargron Are there any plans to implement local/federated timelines in the future?

Eugen Rochko

Anyone with experience getting featured on the App Store?

Chat2Gouttieres

@Gargron you mean publishing an App on the App Store?

Canada4

@Gargron No but I will try and review the App right now Eugen.

Eugen Rochko

So... would the #DigitalMarketsAct basically make WhatsApp flip the XMPP federation switch back on..?

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kaip :xmpp: :archlinux:

@gargron AFAIK WhatsApp does not use standard XMPP or OMEMO so it will not work out of the box with open federation XMPP.

Jan Penfrat

@Gargron Something like that :)

But it'll take time: first the DMA needs to be voted (2022), then enter into force (2023), then the Commission needs to designate the gatekeepers (2023), and then they have four years before the full #interoperability obligation incl group chats applies (2027).

Thank you big tech industry lobbying.

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