If you can replace #Adobe tools in your workflow today, great, more power to you! Not everyone can, sadly.

Tools like @inkscape, @Krita and @Blender are fantastic and built with love and energy and care. But in many cases they are still not an option for a lot of creative types.

So support them if you can. Use them if they work for you. Help improve them if you have the skills (that includes writing documentation, and working on better UI/UX!).

The better they get, the weaker Adobe becomes! 👀

@rysiek Adobe's licensing tactics make me so mad. Every time I have had to reinstall or transfer software from Adobe it has been a major hassle. The benefits being a monopoly, I guess. I am trying to learn @darktable so I can ditch Lightroom. I would much rather send my $$ to a #FOSS project.

@rysiek @inkscape Surely the licence is to “copy”, not “use”, isn’t it?

I mean they may argue “copy” from disc to memory, etc, is copying, but given the ruling that reading a web site (which is a lot of copying and sending and stuff) is the same as “reading a book”, I would expect “running a program” is not “copying” (or distributing, etc).

I mean I don’t know, but you can bet they do not want it to get near an actual court…

@rysiek @inkscape Canva replaced them for most of my needs

@rysiek @inkscape Seriff Affinity is great option.

@rysiek @inkscape one of the big problems that FLOSS software has to replace Adobe or similar are the proprietary colors and color spaces, particularly for CMYK offset printing. Either building an alternative or paying for a license are complicated (it would mean distributing non-free software).

Other than that, I've been quite happy with Inkscape and Blender since I left Adobe software a decade ago.

@rysiek @inkscape

I get downvoted to hell over at hacker news for the following regularly, let's see how this tracks here

The *childish* GIMP people blew a huge opportunity to really give Adobe a run some time ago by keeping its ridiculous, likely ableist name, and they keep doubling down on it.

Guess it's all about Krita

@rysiek @inkscape affinity is really good though not foss. They are very pro consumer in terms of their pricing and imo the UI blows adobe out of the water.

@rysiek @inkscape This is quite literally insane and simultaneously why I hate this “always online” era. I love the technological advancements we use daily today but companies like Adobe absolutely destroy my aforementioned love.

@rysiek @inkscape @eniko FOSS tools have ensured I’ve literally never actually needed any Adobe ones. Since… forever. UF-RAW has highly impressed me over the years.

In school we learned Corel tools, and I negotiated with the teacher that all of this proprietary 🤬 was garbage. The GIMP has suited well. Inkscape likewise.

Come at me Adobe for only mocking, not using your toolchain.

@rysiek @inkscape for me #inkscape is the clear winner when a clean SVG is required. The ones generated by Adobe Illustrator are hot garbage even beyond repair

@rysiek I have to say that @inkscape is right now a viable alternative to Adobe, and @Krita and @GIMP and...

No one client never have asked me about the software I use, they only want tasks done.The only people I found that rejects FLOSS design tools are other designers...

@rysiek @inkscape @austin they are a trash company, always have been.

@rysiek with wholehearted sincerity: Fuck Adobe.

@rysiek @inkscape serious question - is there any reason anyone has to disclose what tools they use? Just never tell anyone. Also pirate Adobe products.

@rysiek @inkscape It's highly improbable that any of the products you are promoting will be functional with the same licencing in 5 years time as today. That is the reality of the software industry. This is especially true for products that are still establishing their business model or might soon disappear from the market altogether.
It's also important to point out, that it is not Adobe but third parties, that could potentially sue users of legacy products.

@rysiek @inkscape GIMP

@rysiek @inkscape I never paid for it and my copy works

Lax intellectual property laws are good

@rysiek (Was # FLOSS a typo? Did you mean #foss )?

I am always on the lookout for good open source art programs. Medibang Paint has been pretty decent for my samsung tablet (Free). Clip Studio Paint has a $5 sub on mobile. It has been ok.

Its harder to find decent FOSS art programs. Blender3d is what I learned on, and is in many ways better than Maya. GIMP/Glimpse UI is still wonky.

But unfortunately, as long as companies think Adobe is the standard, they'll keep forcing artists to use it.

@rysiek @inkscape Oof! Horrible. I paid for your software, now you want to sue me???

@rysiek @inkscape

You know you're in a monopoly when "captive market" becomes "captive consumer".

Gradually, it just becomes "captive".

@rysiek Always a good sign of respect when you sue your own paying customers.

It means that Adobe knows that newer products aren’t any better than older versions, and instead of incentivizing customers to upgrade, they choose to waste their resources to force customers to subscriptions to rake in more profits.

Hey Adobe, why not also sue existing subscription customers who leave, claiming that they add undue prudent onto their remaining subscription holders?

@rysiek @inkscape Ruffle and Lightspark are great alternatives to their now chinese-only flash player!

@rysiek @inkscape

GIMP
KRITA
INKSCAPE
KDENLIVE
PENPOT

To name a few.

@rysiek @inkscape jokes on you adobe, the last version of PS I ever paid for was CS3 and there is exactly 0 reason for me to upgrade or subscribe for even 1 month lol

@rysiek @inkscape

Why do we need tools for "professionals"? They're just making corporate trash, polluting our culture.

It would be better for the applications to focus on their free users.

As a side note, I was packaging Inkscape back when it was called Sodipodi. :)

#Sodipodi

@rysiek @inkscape
Also a reminder that Adobe isn’t alone. Phase One, makers of Capture One, the Lightroom alternative, are working very hard to out-dick Adobe. They haven’t quite made it yet, but they’re getting there.

@rysiek @inkscape
So I can't reinstall my Photoshop SC2??? My new laptop doesn't have a disc drive anyways.

@rysiek @inkscape

That kind of crap is why I have an old laptop that is completely offline and wifi disabled.

@rysiek @inkscape Adobe is becoming a liability. Even though I invested some time and money in presets and the workflow, the situation is getting worse every day.

@rysiek

That is honestly insulting to all f*cking d*cks everywhere.

Regardless of your gender and sexual orientation (WHICH IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS, OK?) having sexual intercourse with a d*ck can be a very pleasurable experience.

Dealing with Adobe... Not so much.

@rysiek @inkscape business is an evil place. I guess I will not be using as many adobe products anymore.

@rysiek Adobe gets to rank worse than Microsoft in my book in software freedom abuse.

I mean, they rank *worse* than Microsoft. That's how shit they are.

@inkscape

@rysiek @inkscape Holy shit.

@rysiek @inkscape Shhhh... Don't give #elonputz any ideas! He'll force people to buy new Teslas every 3 years. #adobecapture

@rysiek

For many people, software tools are their "means of production".

Another twist on capital's methods of extracting value from other people's labour.

@rysiek @inkscape krita and blender are amazing tools

@rysiek @inkscape @darktable From the way the notice is written, it sounds like more fallout from Adobe no longer including the Pantone color scheme.

@craignicol @inkscape @rysiek sued, for using an old version, they presumably paid for? surely not legal. oh wait, they are an amerikkkan company, so prob is absolutely fine!!

@rysiek @inkscape and if you use the new versions, Adobe will be training its AI on your published and unpublished work... 🤔

@rysiek @inkscape I switched to Serif's Affinity Studio for personal work. It's not FLOSS, but it's way cheaper than a CC subscription, and pretty easy to learn (though it doesn't have all the same features).

For GIMP and Inkscape to escape their niche and become viable Adobe replacements, they need to invest a ton into user research and UX/UI design, as those are the #1 issues barring wider adoption, IMO.
(That, and a name that isn't a disability slur.)

@rysiek @inkscape

FUCK ME - this is absolute bullshit!

@rysiek I wonder if Pantone is the "third party" they're warning about, tbh. Didn't they recently start making you pay for those tones separately?

@rysiek @inkscape

I have an archived old version of Adobe CS on a fully operational non internet connected old Apple MacBook Air, and honestly, if it was any good I would use it despite the unwarranted threat of violence, but it's absolute garbage; unusable, awkward, uncooperative worthless junk!

Affinity Serif - FTW!

Goodbye Adobe, forever - I sincerely wish you well 😂

@rysiek @inkscape
:brain1:

@rysiek @inkscape

I haven't gone through the pricing, but here are some alternatives.

For video, I've found Openshot Video Editor which has proved to be pretty damn good.

https://www.openshot.org/

https://www.creativebloq.com/photoshop/alternatives-1131641

For Adobe they can...

@rysiek Rent-seeking bastards. I was so mad when they bought Figma, which is also a damn subscription, but at least it was cheap and lightweight.

@rysiek devils advocate here, I am a super big fan of the workflow with Adobe software. It makes my pipeline work tremendously easier.

@rysiek @inkscape I don't know, I'm not a professional, but maybe Open Source tools are quite alright and the pros just learned with Adobe and don't want to learn something new.

@rysiek

Meanwhile, for Mac users, I'm finding Pixelmator to be an entirely serviceable PS alternative. Very reasonably priced, and none of this "license instead of buying" nonsense.

@rysiek @inkscape Moved to Affinity Photo 2 and Luminar Neo and I will never look back. Adobe is evil incarnate.

@rysiek @inkscape As time goes on the more I think the FSF might not be as crazy as they seem.

@rysiek @inkscape First, switch to Affinity apps, then help convince basically every govt site in North America (and beyond) to stop forcing Adobe and its surveilling, invasive software on us via forms that require Reader to function.

@rysiek @inkscape what? they are going to sue a billion people lmao

@rysiek @inkscape I saw someone suggesting that this might have something to do with Adobe losing Pantone licensing. Two giant companies getting in a money spat and passing the problem down to the users.

@rysiek @inkscape I am more concerned that Addobbi can buy anything it wants, it lives into a monopoly and nobody raises up a finger to highlight it...

@rysiek @inkscape
I’m in school right now for visual media design. Our program is centered around the Adobe suite… I can’t wait to switch over to Affinity, the UI is so much better.

@rysiek @inkscape @nbwpuk Not surprising. I switched to the Affinity suite when they Serif launched it and have never been happier.

@rysiek i wish there was a good alternative to Lightroom that can also seamlessly import existing catalogues ... I'm locked into it, effectively, since I have decades' worth of raw files managed in it. at least I'm on the last "proper" version of it that you could outright buy before it went Creative Cloud leasing model...

@rysiek @inkscape I paid for mine. So sue me…

@rysiek @inkscape I haven’t used adobe products for years. As well as Sketch, Affinity replaced Adobe for me, and does the job just as well.

@rysiek @inkscape
That's why I use GIMP.
FOSS and exactly the same.

@rysiek @inkscape 🤦🏼‍♂️

@rysiek @inkscape wow. That's bs

@rysiek @inkscape the main fork of Glimpse has such an irredeemable slur of a name that it prevents a lot of people from using it

@inkscape @rysiek I gave up Photoshop for Gimp and never looked back.

@rysiek um... blender has a video editor btw

@rysiek
I remember when #Adobe was allowed to purchase its sole serious competitor #Macromedia off the market with competition regulators saying nothing about it.

@rysiek @inkscape

Just use The Gimp.

@rysiek @inkscape This is capitalism gone mad. Manufacturers should not be able to lock customers into buying more of their product.. when you buy something, you should own it and have complete freedom to choose what you buy next.

@rysiek No we don’t. Becoming a "good enough" alternative will be just fine.

Like, if Adobe tools are so much better that professionals would rather get blackmailed over it than using open alternatives, how can you place the expectation to reach that standard onto a community of volunteers and non-profits? Is that even in reach yet for some of those projects?
(idk I don’t use Photoshop)

@rysiek @inkscape Thanks! Here’s Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher and Final Cut Pro since many years. Nothing to complain about being Adobe-free ;-)

@rysiek @inkscape This article is four years old. Has Dolby or Adobe sued anyone for using the product yet?

@rysiek @inkscape "Adobe is warning some owners of its Creative Cloud…" – Not correct at all. Adobe is the only "owner" of its cloud. Boggles my mind that this can be news to people. You rent rights and own nothing.