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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

If you can replace #Adobe tools in your workflow today, great, more power to you! Not everyone can, sadly.

Tools like @inkscape, @Krita and @Blender are fantastic and built with love and energy and care. But in many cases they are still not an option for a lot of creative types.

So support them if you can. Use them if they work for you. Help improve them if you have the skills (that includes writing documentation, and working on better UI/UX!).

The better they get, the weaker Adobe becomes! 👀

48 comments
Adam Lein

@rysiek Yeah, I wish @inkscape, @Krita, @Blender, @GIMP, @kdenlive, & Scribus could team up for a more-consistent (yet customizable for efficiency) UI/UX design.

Oro "it's flatpak time" 🏳️‍🌈

@Adam @rysiek @inkscape @krita @Blender @GIMP @kdenlive better to work on consistency and making it easier to follow first (good UI design) and focus on customizability later. If you do customizability right out of the gate, it makes things a lot harder to manage.

Jake in the desert

@Adam @orowith2os @rysiek @inkscape @Krita @Blender @GIMP @kdenlive agree. It's my main problem with Photoshop, aside from the awful Adobe aspect, NOT easy to learn. Psyched to try out Krita, hadn't even heard of it!

Diane 🕵

@rysiek @inkscape @krita @Blender

Not sure how far they are in the being good alternatives to Adobe products, but I think these two are chipping away at other parts of the adobe empire.

But people also mention @kdenlive (video editor) and @darktable (photography virtual "lighttable" and raw "developer" for digital photos)

Philip Mallegol-Hansen

@alienghic @rysiek

Outside of the FOSS space, I’ve had great luck converting folks in my life to use the Affinity suite of tools from Serif: affinity.serif.com/en-us/

Good solid tools, that you buy once and get to use.

Bryan Hansel

@philip @alienghic @rysiek Affinity is good stuff. I wish they would support Android.

Jillianne Hamilton

@philip @alienghic @rysiek Another kudos for Affinity. Very reasonably priced tool for basically everything most people use.

Crees

@philip @alienghic @rysiek can confirm. Grabbed the launch version price and never looked back, at least for now.

Diane 🕵

@darktable @rysiek

I don't know enough about advanced photography techniques to really tell how good you are compared to lightroom.

I went through some of the tutorial went look sliders! Hey neat tagging. Oooh easily syncable parallel metadata files instead of one big database for nextcloud to corrupt. (Which happened to me with digikam a long time ago)

win8linux

@alienghic @rysiek

KDE also has @digikam (photo manager), which has an editor called Showfoto that's similar to Darktable. It can also be run on its own. Been using it as the default image viewer and editor for years and it's quite good.

KDE has so much potential to create an open-source counterpart to the Creative Suite, due to the sheer variety of creative software and integrations they have with each other. A big reason why people use Adobe apps is that they fit together, making for extremely efficient workflows.

@alienghic @rysiek

KDE also has @digikam (photo manager), which has an editor called Showfoto that's similar to Darktable. It can also be run on its own. Been using it as the default image viewer and editor for years and it's quite good.

KDE has so much potential to create an open-source counterpart to the Creative Suite, due to the sheer variety of creative software and integrations they have with each other. A big reason why people use Adobe apps is that they fit together, making for extremely...

Andrew

@rysiek The Affinity products are also fantastic

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@Genstar that's one of the questions, yes. I don't have an answer. But I know the more support they get, the sooner they might be able to do that.

@inkscape

Irenes (many)

@rysiek people who've been following us for a while already know this, but we strongly believe that free software for creative professionals would be ideally made by user-owned co-ops

there are a lot of creative types out there who we see saying they'd happily chip in to build something if they felt like they knew a way to do that that would actually make a difference

jade

@rysiek thank you for this take. it's really bothersome when switching to the open source alternative is portrayed as "why don't you just". it's not that simple, but these tools *are* always getting better and more and more people *can* switch.

Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

@rysiek @inkscape @Krita @Blender there's nothing that can effectively replace After Effects. That one has zero real competition. Fusion/Resolve and Motion are neat but nowhere near usable for advanced mograph.

NiceMicro

@rysiek I am a big advocate for #FreeSoftware as really the ONLY way for consumer protection in terms of the software we use.

I would never tell someone to not use Adobe for work on their work computer. My workplace needs me to use Windows and many proprietary software on my day job.

That is a very different think than your personal computer at home. And I think many who use Adobe stuff for hobbies could probably switch to freedom-respecting software and still do everything they want to.

NiceMicro

@rysiek in a business environment, the freedom-disrespecting EULA of proprietary software is an agreement between the software co and an other business, so in that case it does not bother me.

For me personally, I'd rather not agree to terms like that (sometimes I do, because compromises, but that is an other topic).

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@nicemicro being a professional creator does not necessarily mean "business".

Many fedi creators, bringing us whimsy and wonder, are professional in the sense that they support themselves through their work (for example, via Patreon and similar services), but do not necessarily run a "business".

And even if they do, how is it not outrageous that a behemoth like Adobe is holding small creators hostage like this?

Why should we turn of empathy just because a small creator runs a "business"? 👀

NiceMicro

@rysiek I'm not talking about "empathy".

My post is about that as a free software activist, I'm not going to advocate that professionals use free software, because professional use merits different considerations than personal use.

Anything else you read into my posts was not there.

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@nicemicro why should we, free software activists, not advocate for professionals to use free (as in freedom) software?

NiceMicro

@rysiek because in a business your first consideration is to make as much money as efficiently as possible, so if someone says "I NEED Photoshop to be able to do my job", I tend not to pretend that I know better.

NiceMicro

@rysiek (and hopefully you don't keep sensitive personal stuff on your work computer that you need the level of safety only free software can guarantee)

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@nicemicro why should this even be an either-or? Why should we not expect to have professional-quality software that is freedom- and privacy-respecting?

NiceMicro

@rysiek I agree with you in this, as that should be the goal.

You are right, and we should make business owners aware of the risks of proprietary software.

My approach in this regard is more pragmatic, and in that, individual private users are the ones who get most damaged by proprietary software as they aren't even gonna make money on it. And for private use, #FreeSoftware alternatives are perfectly viable.

This is my approach.

Abandoned

@nicemicro @rysiek

It's more imperative that professional tools be owned by their craftsman. And i use professional to mean "commercial activity in the service of others"

Free software is just as much about mitigating risks, sharing liabilities and participating in the future of the tool development. For startups it's access, but larger firms should look for stability and control

Of course, you have to pay up front for free software development. Not so for off the shelf products

Space Catitude 🚀

@doctormo @nicemicro @rysiek

There is a time cost to learning a new system. And a lot of people don't want to pay that cost to wean themselves off a proprietary software.

(A lot of "poor UI" complaints are really "UI is not identical to what I trained on").

But that has to be weighed against the risk!

At any moment, a proprietary single-supplier can choke you right out of business, by suddenly deciding to charge (or charge more) for access.

That's my main business reason for FOSS tools.

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@TerryHancock in the broader thread there are plenty of examples of specific functionality that is missing from FLOSS alternatives. It's not just "I don't like that the button layout is different".

@doctormo @nicemicro

Abandoned

@rysiek @TerryHancock @nicemicro

Specific examples are great. They're solvable, ready to bake bits of work.

What's missing isn't the functionality, it's the organisation needed to construct them.

NiceMicro

@doctormo @rysiek @TerryHancock

Right. But for those changes to be made, it is the coders, who need to do the work. While features are missing for the business use case, advocating #FreeSoftware for the business users will make minimal impact.

Unless of course you can convince the business owners to pay for the missing features to be implemented, while they keep paying for the proprietary software that lets them pay the bills now.

Abandoned replied to NiceMicro

@nicemicro @rysiek @TerryHancock

If you leave it to programmers, you will have programmer choices. Which is most of what has already been rejected by non programmers.

Yes, I know asking for investment in the future requires quite a lot of imagination and a canyon full of trust. That is why the stories we tell about Free Software have to be of an unusually high quality.

Call for the bards.

Meow.tar.gz :verified:

@rysiek @inkscape @Krita @Blender I've been able to replace my work flow and completely de-adobe. If it isn't open source, I won't use it.

Meow.tar.gz :verified:

@rysiek @inkscape @Krita @Blender To be fair I've also de-Googled as well. I'm slowly divorcing myself from the unhealthy marriage I had with cloud-based services. 🤣

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@rysiek

Your chart is ready, and can be found here:

solipsys.co.uk/Chartodon/11033

Things may have changed since I started compiling that, and some things may have been inaccessible.

In particular, the very nature of the fediverse means some toots may never have made it to my instance, in which case I can't see them, and can't include them.

The chart will eventually be deleted, so if you'd like to keep it, make sure you download a copy.

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