@Radical_EgoCom Another question might be "CAN it be abolished, without going full-on France in 1792 et al" (which might not be a bad thing, but consequences might be extreme these days.)

@Radical_EgoCom How to abolish? By what method?

@Radical_EgoCom and if yes explain how an alternative system would work. I haven't ever heard of a system that isn't worse than capitalism.

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@Radical_EgoCom No, because "capitalism" is too vaguely defined. The question would be more meaningful and easier to answer if it would be more specific, such as "should personal wealth be limited" or "should production assets be publicly owned" or "should work not be taxed" or "should there be no private possession at all" or "should article 14 paragraph 2 of the German constitution be applied more consequently" etc.. "Capitalism" is just a buzzword and "abolish capitalism" is a buzzphrase.

@Radical_EgoCom Capitalism is evil and should be abolished by any and all means necessary. There can be no equity with capitalism. It kills, enslaves, and destroys the earth for the profit of a few.

@Radical_EgoCom Non, aucun pays n'est réellement capitaliste tous ceux qui se disent capitalistes ont en réalité de très nombreuses loi de la protection de leur économie ce qui est en opposition avec le concept de capitalisme. D'autres concepts sont à abolir : la monnaie, les actions, le droit de posséder plus de deux bien immobiliers, les brevets.

@Radical_EgoCom Abolition of Capitalism is an absurd concept. Regulations and standards to protect innocent participants from bad actors would make more sense, but there will always be some form of Capitalism in any society. People will always find ways to trade or sell goods and services to one another no matter the type of government is in effect.

@Radical_EgoCom Do you think that since the first sedentary society until today any other mode of production has been applied?

@Radical_EgoCom Capitalism has reached the end of its life span. We will either disappear or move on to the next stage.

@Radical_EgoCom Yes, but this must be done gradually. But the proletarian revolution must happen as soon as possible, because the planet will not wait until then.

@Radical_EgoCom capitalism is not the problem, mom and pop shops like the old days when they lived upstairs, that is good capitalism. Corporatism is what ruins it, making money is what's important, not quality products and services. Even in a system with communes, it's individual communes trading, that keeps them going. You always need something you can't produce or a service you can't provide, so in a way it's capitalism. Also socialism or communism is not bad, it's the leaders who ruin it.

@Radical_EgoCom Capitalism will end unless it can survive into the post human era because we either abolish it or it abolishes us.

@Radical_EgoCom It's largely immaterial if it made some iPhones and spaceships along the way since the end goal gets rid of all that and turns into direct transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Boiled down to the barest minimum, a "perfect" Capitalist society is an army of slaves mining gold to deposit directly into owners' coffers. Any creature comforts along the way are wasteful side effects to be optimized out.

Capitalism is really good at what it does, the trick is seeing that honestly.

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No, because it's going to be a lot more fun to watch it fall apart on its own. Which isn't going to take long.

@Radical_EgoCom material is the only real worth left.

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An idea can,t be abolish, Capitalists stablisments are communist between themselves, sometimes i dont understand how it,s possible to grow up in the Liberty country and don,t be able to admit how this country is slavery,s ace.

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My answer is yes but I want to explain. Capitalism is only possible through violence and coercion. One cannot own land without denying others access to the resources the land provides through violence or threats of violence. Without violence, all of the land in North America would still be in the hands of people who are not of European descent. Capitalism is the practice of taking land and resources from the local population and giving it to oligarchs, at the tip of a spear.

@Radical_EgoCom yes because freedom is limited for those who have money and people become submissive toward the market and stop doing what they like to do just to adapt to what the market wants, and all that matters is what sells doesn't take in consideration if this is a benign thing.

@Radical_EgoCom i would vote nö because every Ruling System has its downsides ^^

@Radical_EgoCom In favour of what alternative?

@Radical_EgoCom I would LIKE to see capitalism abolished, but I don't think humanity is sufficiently advanced to adopt any other system of distributing goods. The only way we could currently make a non-capitalist society work would be to impose a brutal form of communism that would be abused by those in power.

@Radical_EgoCom it is not necessary to eliminate capitalism, but to reshape profit so that it is redistributed to weaker groups of individuals. attention must also be paid to resources to avoid waste due to overproduction caused by the search for maximum profit.

@Radical_EgoCom Regulated capitalism is ok. That's not what we're experiencing now.

@Radical_EgoCom you cannot abolish ideologies

@Radical_EgoCom No, because capitalism is the most powerful tool for economic development at our disposal. And because communism has failed every single time it's been tried.

@Radical_EgoCom I voted no; because there will always be some people who wish to "make their own way". That said, I think there must be constraints on the amount of assets an individual can hold. This is one of several reasons why I am a supporter of the #DoughnutEconomy theory, which holds that there should be upper and lower limits for personal income in the interests of global equality. (There are other beneficial too!)

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Capitalism as currently practiced is all about the few getting more wealth by denying everyone else a chance at any.

We are all far better off when all of us are better off, than when only a few of us are better off.

Thus requires the wealth hoarders get along and not be selfish bleepers bleeping

@Radical_EgoCom By Capitalism I assume we mean profit driven wage based economies that rely on resource exploitation and that result in surplus which is hoarded/released according to market conditions. It is a system defined by private ownership of large scale business concerns that often dominate, and a state apparatus that is concerned with maintaining this system via a monopoly on violence and not with benefiting the majority of the population based on need.

@Radical_EgoCom Not abolishes, just tightly regulated.

@Radical_EgoCom well, if we’d outlaw capitalism only outlaws would have capitalism. Oh wait.

@Radical_EgoCom I have a qualified no. I think food, water, housing, health care, and other necessities for life should be socialized. Elective consumer goods and luxury items could still be sold in a highly regulated open market.

@Radical_EgoCom lovely results but … who are those 6% ?! 🤨

@Radical_EgoCom Capitalism is a society’s answer to five basic questions (See Robert Reich’s book on capitalism.) The questions are valid, but the way we answered them sucks. We need to answer the questions better.