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dansup

Going through the backlog of pixelfed.art Curated Onboarding applications!

My apologies to some applicants who applied more than 2 weeks ago, I've been quite busy with @loops

#pixelfed

dansup

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, most of y’all don’t know what it’s like to be a fediverse developer of a popular project and have to deal with all the negative feedback and personal attacks

Let’s be nicer to the devs of the fediverse who have been doing this mostly unpaid for the greater good, all I ask is for basic respect!

Anfora, Prismo, Firefish and dozens of other projects have been abandoned by their devs, and I’d bet the fediverse mentality towards devs is part of the reason

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Jef Poskanzer :batman:

@dansup Is it worse than open source development in general though?

David Hopeward

@dansup I appreciate Fediverse devs very much- without you I’d use no social media at all.
You’re doing great, important work, and I think you also are building the future. All the corporate crap could fail and we’d still be here. Thank you! 💌

laydros

@dansup also clearly part of the cause of the recent xz security issue. I don’t understand how people feel so entitled at all, much less something they aren’t paying for. Sorry to hear you are dealing with that, thanks for the efforts you put into development, especially software that enriches the fediverse!

dansup

Imagine writing an open source twitter alternative

One that is federated and built on open protocols

Then having to deal with users who are upset you are working with an established walled garden social platform to support those very open protocols

Girl, you can't have it both ways

We can build better mod/safety tools

But

You can't moderate who gets to participate in an open protocol

Maybe let's focus on the important aspect, better mod/safety tools

signed,
fedi developer

Imagine writing an open source twitter alternative

One that is federated and built on open protocols

Then having to deal with users who are upset you are working with an established walled garden social platform to support those very open protocols

Girl, you can't have it both ways

We can build better mod/safety tools

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FinchHaven

@dansup

Necessary edits:

"Imagine writing an open source twitter alternative

One that is federated and built on open protocols

Then having to deal with users who are upset you are working with an established walled garden social platform whose entire agenda is to override and ultimately destroy those very open protocols in a demonstrated pattern of conquest and assimilation"

Finally:

"Girl, you can't have it both ways"

"girl"?

girl?

What is this, TikTok or a high school lunchroom?

argv minus one

@dansup

Valid point, but I worry that this is an #EmbraceExtendExtinguish scheme:

1. Threads federates.
2. Something happens that makes Threads a highly desirable instance to be on, e.g. a flood of spam that only Threads has a good filter for.
3. Threads, having absorbed the vast majority of Fedi users, defederates.

See also: email.

Danie van der Merwe

@dansup I value the right of individuals to decide if they want to follow or block (instances). Having a choice is why we should be here. A walled garden decides everything for individuals, and leaves them no choices. Many of us wanted to get away from that.

dansup

I've reached out to Meta/Threads devs regarding Nodeinfo and stats numbers for FediDB.org, unfortunately their legal dept rejected this.

I will use estimated numbers with the hope they will see this and have justification for reporting accurate stats.

Even though I have my own reservations regarding Meta (and how they've treated Pixelfed), putting my ego aside for the benefit of the fediverse is required when running an essential fedi service like FediDB.

#fediverse #activitypub

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Wysteria

@dansup The stats on FediDB haven't been accurate for a while, a couple of legitimately run instances are banned, despite comfortably belonging in the top 10 largest instances by user count and MAU.

dansup

I'm a weirdo, I use separate code editors for app dev and backend dev.

Used Sublime Code for years, but VS Code is really useful as an IDE for native app development.

Context switching is much easier this way I've found, that being said, VS Code is really growing on me.

(pictured are loops app code and backend code)

Patrice

@dansup Oh same!
Different IDEs have different strengths. Plus it helps my brain separate things

For me it’s VS Code, IntelliJ and Xcode

Randy R

@dansup I do this with Visual Studio for .net api code and VS Code for React UI.

dansup

Refactoring @loops comments

We're going to limit threading to 2 levels max and handle federated comments accordingly.

(dont mind the flexwrap issue pushing the like button off screen, that's about to be fixed!)

dansup

ICYMI: Pixelfed beta is on the Google Play Store.

Join via link on our website!

pixelfed.org/mobile-apps

#pixelfed #android

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Éric Freyssinet

@dansup Hello ! The app is not recognising metapixl.com as a valid server although it is version 0.11.13

The Soca Vault

@dansup

@pixelfed

When are notifications going to become a real thing within the app?

Alexander

after my instance updated to the current version, the beta app works great

dansup

Did you know you can post photo or video Stories to your @pixelfed account using our official Android or iOS app?

I just posted one about my extra large hat lol

#pixelfed #stories

Anis

@dansup @pixelfed je le savais même pas qu'ils avaient leur propre application officielle sur quel store est-elle téléchargeable sur Android

dansup

Fun fact, Pixelfed was the first #fediverse project that NGI funded back in early 2020 😎

dansup

Preparing my 4th NLnet grant application 😊

#loops #pixelfed

Meljoann

@dansup super excited about Loops, best of luck!

Been thinking about #MusicDiscovery on Fedi, and Loops could be a game-changer here… Like a “save music” bookmark button to revisit an artists’ music link later?

TikTok has an “add to Spotify” button now but the algorithm lottery is a head-melt for artists. If we had a real alternative, it would be a life-raft for the arts rn💜

Thanks so much for your work, legend

dansup

I ended up combining text and icons for the comment action buttons!

Thanks for your feedback ❤️

#loops #loopsDev

Nicholas Guarracino

@dansup I am not a tester, but from the screenshot, I would expect the "reply" arrow to point the other direction. Pointing to the right usually makes me think of "forward"

dansup

Edit: Went with a combined text/icon!

mastodon.social/@dansup/112180

Text vs Icon buttons, I think the icons look better, wdyt?

#loops #loopsDev

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lukas

@dansup Maybe you could make it adjustable in the profile what the user wants to see. And the initial decision would be made during onboarding.😅

Daniel Barber

@dansup Both, but also please right align them so they’re consistently positioned on each comment

dansup

Updated the @pixelfed website mobile apps page with the Google Play badge/link for our Android app 🥳

pixelfed.org/mobile-apps

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Andreyka

@dansup @pixelfed is there any difference between versions?

Snail

@dansup @pixelfed What's the best way to provide feedback on the Android app?

Strike that, found the placeholder github repo

dansup

Loops now has comments!

We should be ready to onboard beta testers this weekend 🚀

#loops

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Markus Gaines

@dansup Would it use existing Pixelfed login or need a whole new account?

Mike Usenick

@dansup How would one sign up to be a beta tester?

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Eugenia L

@dansup This is awesome! Could you also please post it on F-Droid app store? I personally only download from there these days, only open source apps. I have de-googled my phone. Thx!

muıııo

@dansup I pre-registered, says it will auto-install once it's available 😁

ɹǝןpǝıℲ snɯsɐᴚ ☑️

@dansup the server I'm on doesn't support pf, my login details I had with Web version doesn't work anymore.

dansup

Pixelfed Loops and PeerTube Shorts...

just imagine 😍

@Chocobozzz you down?

Let's work together on federation, we could do so much together ❤️

#loops #peertube

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grant :blobcatgoogly:​

@dansup @Chocobozzz I already have a couple short form videos uploaded to my #PeerTube instance to test compatibility with

@sc07_shorts / sc07.tv/c/sc07_shorts

Maddy :verifiedp2:

@dansup @Chocobozzz And if this could be timed with the TikTok Ban bill that'd be fantastic for the fediverse.

ilikecats

@dansup
What about getting addicted? I'm a bit concerned about this, because I had to fight a terrible addiction to YouTube (in general, but also shorts) a year or so ago. Twice.

dansup

Loops + c2s would be a perfect match, few activitypub implementations support the client to server model.

🤔

#loops #loopsDev #c2s #activitypub

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@dansup Go for it! It’s always seemed like a chicken-and-egg problem: nobody builds C2S servers because there’s no clients, and nobody builds clients because there’s no servers.

If you could get even one good client off the ground, it might bootstrap the whole C2S ecosystem.

And I, for one, will absolutely follow you there. I’d much rather build a solid C2S server instead of implement the Mastodon API.

dansup

My plan for Loops was to use your Pixelfed account for auth, and thats all good and all but when it comes to federation, I think this warrants a separate followers collection.

I'm considering either creating a new outbox like collection for Loops that are delivered to all followers, or a separate account with its own outbox and follower collections.

What are your thoughts?

#loops #loopsDev

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Bram Meehan

@dansup When I first got into Fedi, I wanted to — and was frustrated I couldn’t — post from one account to all the things, but came around to the value of having different accounts for different services for different interests.

James J Malcolm

@dansup many of these different social media’s (microblogs, personal photoblogs, personal video shares) have different circle of friends, acquaintances, random people you’d want to share them with.

One way to enable that is separate (external) account names, an other could be what (I think) Google+ did with its circles & what Insta kinda does with “close friends”.

I don’t know the best solution, but just wanted to add my thinking on the topic.

Patrice

@dansup You can always do an OIDC flow. That allows you to have a common login and identity for those who want it but still have separate accounts

dansup

Push Notifications + Share Intents are crucial and I won't make the same mistake again.

The #loops beta will ship with push notifications, and in a few weeks share intents.

We will send push notifications for every like, follow, and comment (and eventually mentions, duets and reacts) and you will be able to toggle each one in the app if you prefer to limit them!

#loops #loopsDev

kr0n

@dansup when are going to be available the Push Notifications for Pixelfed?

dansup

Share + Search have been implemented in @loops

#loops #loopsDev

DELETED

@dansup great work,
looking forward to trying the beta :)

Dominic Carlberg

@dansup Thank you. Everyday I’m more amazed - whether it’s your progress on #loops or #pixelfed - I’m really looking forward to seeing the final releases on iOS.

Григорий Клюшников

The sheet on the second screenshot should probably be titled just "Options". "Share to -> Share" is confusing, "Share to -> Block" even more so. It would also work better if you make these options icon-with-label buttons like these:

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