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Darius Kazemi

I'm hosting a webinar about trust and safety on the fediverse this Thursday, Dec 8th at 12pm Eastern. It's an introduction to the state of content moderation and community safety here.

I hope it will be useful to people at civil society organizations who have perhaps heard about Mastodon and the fediverse and would like to know more about where there are gaps in funding and services, and places where orgs could potentially help augment what's already happening.

RSVP: meedan.com/event/webinar-trust

I'm hosting a webinar about trust and safety on the fediverse this Thursday, Dec 8th at 12pm Eastern. It's an introduction to the state of content moderation and community safety here.

I hope it will be useful to people at civil society organizations who have perhaps heard about Mastodon and the fediverse and would like to know more about where there are gaps in funding and services, and places where orgs could potentially help augment what's already happening.

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Sumana Harihareswara

@darius heads-up that the *blog* post meedan.com/post/webinar-trust- does not seem to link anywhere to the event page

(I was thinking "instead of digging through my Mastodon bookmarks/etc. to find the URL to email to someone, I'll just go through the Meedan front page")

Serge from Babka

@darius

Will it be recorded somewhere for folks who wouldn't be able to make that time?

Timnit Gebru (she/her)

@darius Sigh. I was about to come here and ask if anyone else was having trouble joining and realized that I somehow put it on my calendar for 2pm EST rather than 12pm EST. I was really looking forward to it 😞

Darius Kazemi

I made a PR to Mastodon to see if they are interested in merging the exclusive lists feature from #Hometown

github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p

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Magess :heart_ace:

@darius Yes, please! Would love to be able to quarantine certain things from my Home feed.

Bret Mogilefsky

@darius I would call these "follow lists", because (as I understand it) it's essentially just like the existing Follows+timeline, but corresponding to an different set of follows.

Darius Kazemi

New #Hometown release! In version 1.0.8 we have a handful of new features including:

- more explicit multiple-choice poll toggle
- ability to keep your local-only posts if you have automatic post deletion turned on
- RSS opt-out (privacy-oriented admins can set opt-out to default true for all users who haven't set theirs)
- some technical changes that will make it easier for 3rd party clients to support Hometown

Full notes here: github.com/hometown-fork/homet

New #Hometown release! In version 1.0.8 we have a handful of new features including:

- more explicit multiple-choice poll toggle
- ability to keep your local-only posts if you have automatic post deletion turned on
- RSS opt-out (privacy-oriented admins can set opt-out to default true for all users who haven't set theirs)
- some technical changes that will make it easier for 3rd party clients to support Hometown

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Darius Kazemi

If you would like to follow along with the development of the next version of Hometown, you can track the features and fixes I have planned here:

github.com/orgs/hometown-fork/

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Darius Kazemi

It's a new era: for the last 4 years I have had my account here opted out of search engine indexing. But now I think it makes sense to have my public posts indexed (and probably has made sense for a while).

Jon

@darius the times they are a-changing. From a visibility perspective, does that mean that posts by people who replied to your posts are discoverable from the search-indexed post?

Michael Sokolov

@darius what is the mechanism that prevents crawlers from indexing posts here? Is it advisory like robots.txt?

Darius Kazemi

Oh wow, Gerry Lawson has a Google doodle today. I met him once, not long before his death, he seemed very nice and it was nice to thank him for his contributions to videogames.

Darius Kazemi

Here's everything that is coming in #hometown v1.0.8 (which I will release once I have tested it here on Friend Camp for a few days):

github.com/orgs/hometown-fork/

Darius Kazemi

Particularly excited about the addition of the "multiple choice" toggle to polls. Did you know that Mastodon supports multiple choice polls? It does, but it's a hidden feature where you have to click the round buttons to the left of your poll choices while making the poll. It's so weird.

Anyway this makes things clearer.

scott f

@darius yay nice!

Do you plan to build a release based on Mastodon 4, or continue as a fork of 3.5? Not making a request either way, just curious.

Darius Kazemi

Today I took a couple of height-of-summer tomatoes that I froze, ran them under hot water, slipped off and discarded the skins, microwaved for a couple minutes to thaw, chopped them up while still soft-but-structured, threw them in a pan with a chopped jalepeno and salt and cumin, brought to a simmer, turned off the heat, and ended up with a nice little chili-tomato salsa.

Darius Kazemi

Fun tomato fact: if you freeze a tomato with the skin on, all you have to do is run it under hot water for a few seconds and you can just kind of squeeze the skin off of it.

And frozen tomatoes keep for a very long time -- basically you just lay them on a pan to freeze them initially so they don't stick together, and then put them in a container. I leave the skin on until I have to use them. It's a lot easier than canning, though it does take up more space per tomato.

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Darius Kazemi

If you are a #Hometown admin and would like to be notified whenever there is a new release, you can follow @hometown_releases

This account updates whenever a Hometown release comes out. I recommend after following, going to the profile and clicking the "notification" bell icon to get notified like an @-mention whenever this posts (which is not often). That icon won't be there if you don't follow it first, by the way.

Darius Kazemi

This new "Society for the promotion of radical analogue games" seems like it might be up the alley of a few people here

reimaginingvalue.ca/sprag/

Darius Kazemi

The best dating advice I ever got was to remember that if someone ghosts me, they were probably a hired assassin who fell in love and couldn't finish the job.

Darius Kazemi

Some talks I've given on fediverse stuff over the years:

Social Solutions to Social Networking, about cool stuff you can do when you're not scaling a huge platform - videos.theconference.se/darius

Trust is Not Harmful, about what we mean when we talk about trust and "trustless" on fediverse vs web3 - vimeo.com/354276253

Squishy Amoeba-Like Objects, about topology of federated communities - youtube.com/watch?v=qxBu5Tktm1

The first video is probably the most "intro for a general audience" of the three.

Some talks I've given on fediverse stuff over the years:

Social Solutions to Social Networking, about cool stuff you can do when you're not scaling a huge platform - videos.theconference.se/darius

Trust is Not Harmful, about what we mean when we talk about trust and "trustless" on fediverse vs web3 - vimeo.com/354276253

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πŸ˜‚ a very perfect explanation for a lot of situations:

β€œFriend Camp as a website lives on a server, it's a computer, which means it's a piece of metal with etchings on it, and you put electrons in it, and electrons all move around, and it's connected to the internet through, you know, the phone, or whatever, I don't know.” β€”@darius πŸ‘

Darius Kazemi

"16. Safety is a characteristic of systems and not of their components

Safety is an emergent property of systems; it does not reside in a person, device or department of an organization or system. Safety cannot be purchased or manufactured; it is not a feature that is separate from the other components of the system. This means that safety cannot be manipulated like a feedstock or raw material."

- How Complex Systems Fail, by Richard I. Cook

how.complexsystems.fail/#16

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Dominic White

@darius @ian such a great observation. I’ve been using that to describe security for some time too. Like safety, it feels like an emergent property of controls and processes functioning correctly during an attack.

Thomas Avedik :verified:

@darius: Organizations and their #leaders are ambiguously judging 'the relationship between production targets, costs of operations and acceptable risks'.

And this #ambiguity must then be resolved by actions of employees at the 'sharp end of the system'.

But if something goes wrong, the same leaders point fingers at these employees because they 'violated' processes while ignoring the other driving forces, especially production pressure...

#CyberSecurity

Dan Yeaw

@darius Thanks for sharing this, it is definitely a great #SystemsSafety summary! Since I'm in the automotive space, I'm interested in if he had thoughts on safety when the operators have limited training and often aren't experts, unlike medical areas with doctors, nuclear reactor operators, and airline pilots.

Darius Kazemi

Great article from @dajb about governance on Mastodon servers. Like social.coop, Friend Camp has started using Loomio to make group consensus decisions around things like non-obvious defederation, and it's working out really well.

dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/11/2

I recommend instance admins look into Loomio. Once we have used it a bit more on Friend Camp I am going to post a how-to and best practices for small servers.

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Dani β€” MLT(ASCP)

@darius
@dajb

Something like Loomio is great but even for small servers, it isn't cheap. I think that funding is going to drop off after the birb influx and for instances of more than 100 folks it's $75+ a month.

I do think something like this is a fantastic idea and I wonder if it's something that could be handled without a 3rd party resource.

Great thinking. It's definitely the direction we should be looking in, decisions on an instance by instance basis.

@darius
@dajb

Something like Loomio is great but even for small servers, it isn't cheap. I think that funding is going to drop off after the birb influx and for instances of more than 100 folks it's $75+ a month.

I do think something like this is a fantastic idea and I wonder if it's something that could be handled without a 3rd party resource.

Emma H :blobcatcoffee:

@darius @dajb

I read:

> 'To β€œkeep things the way they are” is always an option, never the default. Framing this option as a default position introduces a significant conservative bias β€” listing it as an option removes this bias and keeps a collective evolutionary.'

πŸ’™

For time immemorial, on bugzilla.mozilla.org, the Severity field had a default of 'normal,' and we could not differentiate (without a lot of work) what bugs had been intentionally set to 'normal'

This is important, thanks!

MJ

@darius Good! I hope it works out for you all. And, thank you, BTW. You and @dajb have just given me an idea for a proposal I’ll introduce on Loomio for social.coop.

Darius Kazemi

A 500 character limit is great because I can write a 280 character post promoting something I wrote and then provide 220 characters of "please read the thing I wrote before commenting here" disclaimer :brain4:

(yes I could change the character limit if I want. it is a feature I actually added to the software I am writing this on. oh hey here I am doing the disclaimer thing again)

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aaron

@darius I've thought about increasing it on my instance, but then I remember I *do* have a blog where I could write longer things, and then it doesn't seem as pressing.

FiXato

@darius the true master of toot disclaimers remains @craigmaloney xD

L.J. but extra nerdy

@darius 5,000 character limit on this Hometown instance, zero regrets ✌️

(What? It's for writers!!)

Darius Kazemi

So I am likely going to do a minor #hometown release in the coming week or so. This won't have anything to do with bringing us up to Mastodon v4. It will be some bugfixes and feature tweaks, and then also, nerdily but importantly, changing how we do semantic versioning.

Basically even though I think I am doing semver the "right" way, it is not in line with how most of fediverse does it, and this makes it harder for 3rd party apps to detect when a server runs Hometown.

github.com/hometown-fork/homet

So I am likely going to do a minor #hometown release in the coming week or so. This won't have anything to do with bringing us up to Mastodon v4. It will be some bugfixes and feature tweaks, and then also, nerdily but importantly, changing how we do semantic versioning.

Basically even though I think I am doing semver the "right" way, it is not in line with how most of fediverse does it, and this makes it harder for 3rd party apps to detect when a server runs Hometown.

Darius Kazemi

Ultimately this comes down to changing the versioning string for "Hometown version 1.0.8, synchronized with Mastodon 3.5.5" from

1.0.8+3.5.5

to

3.5.5+hometown-1.0.8

I still cringe a little to look at it but I understand that it'll help other projects and I really want as much 3rd party Hometown support as possible.

As usual: please don't ask why I have decided to do it this way or propose alternatives until you have read the Github thread which contains the rationale.

Darius Kazemi

Jumping off what @blaine is saying here:

mastodon.social/@blaine/109400

I work in professional fact-checking and content moderation for my day job at meedan.com and I have begun conversations about ways to do content moderation as a federated service that admins can pay to subscribe to (where moderators are paid a living wage, maybe in worker owned coops even, as opposed to big social media companies using basically sweatshop moderation labor)

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FiXato

@darius this would probably benefit from having a more standardised categorisation of moderation reasons so you could make certain types of reports only go to a select group that's specifically trained / certified for (e.g. certain kinds of abuse), or so moderators can opt-out from certain categories (e.g. nsfw or perhaps those relying on media display).
@blaine

Dan Hon #xoxofest

@darius @blaine Hey @fraying, remember how we were talking about how smart Darius is tonight? :)

Darius Kazemi

Hey, 20% off on all books at Boss Fight Books, including my book about how the 1999 strategy role playing game Jagged Alliance 2 was made:

bossfightbooks.com/products/ja

If you like books about videogames, check out the whole catalog! Use code BFCM22 at checkout for the discount. Ebooks are available in DRM-free epub, mobi, and PDF.

Also check out @lauraehall's book on Katamari Damacy:

bossfightbooks.com/products/ka

Jonathan

@darius @lauraehall ooh! I just cracked into Laura's book last night, and was thinking about grabbing yours. Perfect timing.

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