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Darius Kazemi

I made a PR to Mastodon to see if they are interested in merging the exclusive lists feature from #Hometown

github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p

37 comments
Andrew

@darius I feel like the verbiage could be improved. At first reflex I assumed “exclusive” meant “this list is not shared with other users”

Darius Kazemi

@cinebox Hm, yeah. I mean I specifically avoided a term like private, but I see what you mean.

Andrew

@darius just “hide in home timeline” is more verbose but more clear imo

John Spounias :opalstack:

@darius some feedback. not sure what but the name needs work. Otherwise seems like a good feature. There is def work here to be done and people I see talking about this kind of feature, good work.

John Spounias :opalstack:

@darius let me think about it a bit, when I read the wiki link I liked the 'friends' concept. that is what clicked for me, before that I couldn't figure out what was 'exclusive'. 'friends' is the key takeaway here, something personal. I will try to think of something.

Darius Kazemi

@d3cline Yeah. The thing is it's not about friends necessarily -- I also use it as kind of a quarantine zone for accounts that post too often but I still want to follow occasionally.

John Spounias :opalstack:

@darius any chance instead of a bool it can be a numbered list or an dictionary type object with names. Like labels?

John Spounias :opalstack:

@darius I like the what its doing, but could see it being done in many different sub-feeds. Like I could filter by topic and have topic feeds. Many users tend to be very focused. So maybe one for 'tech' and one for 'politics' or 'news' or what have you. Then the 'exclusive' concept is extended for use cases defined by the user.

Darius Kazemi

@d3cline Oh: that is too complicated. I thought about doing that and decided against it. Someone who is not me is welcome to implement the feature you describe

John Spounias :opalstack:

@darius I would keep pushing what you got then, it seems like it could be helpful and a stop-gap to the more complex version of the feature.

John Spounias :opalstack:

@darius and the removing them from the home feed means I can add more content there and do more filtering etc, it acts somewhat like a queue after that.

Daniel Stucke

@darius @d3cline whatever it gets called I’ve been wanting this feature ever since joining the mastodon fun. There are a good few accounts I’d like to have in a list to check in on now and then but I really want muted in my main feed. I know I could follow them by rss instead but doesn’t make sense doing so outside of mastodon if it can be helped.

FiXato

@darius 'confined', 'quarantined', 'secluded' or 'limited'?
@d3cline

Paul Rohr

@darius @d3cline

Try calling it a "filtered" list. As in posts from everyone on this list get filtered from the main feed, + only get seen when you look at this list.

1. As in your design, this property gets toggled on a per-list basis.

2. A given account could still be included on multiple lists (regardless of this setting).A

3. BONUS UX: Any per-user Block/Mute affordances get a prepopulated "Filter to..." action to choose a filtered list to join.

Darius Kazemi

@pevohr @d3cline I don't love that name because filtering is already a thing in Mastodon and it is known as a thing that gets rid of content rather than putting it somewhere else

Paul Rohr

@darius @d3cline

Really? Given how the content filtering page is currently worded, that implication is a surprise to me. As written, it talks about contexts where copies of a given post do or don't get "hidden". Indeed, the words "as if" imply that the post isn't gone, you just don't see it in (some of) the usual context(s).

Indeed, I deliberately chose to reuse the concept of filtering because email (+ other) filters work exactly the way you want this to.

Filter contexts *

One or multiple contexts where the filter should apply

Home and lists
Notifications
Public timelines
Conversations
Profiles


Filter action *

Chose which action to perform when a post matches the filter

Hide with a warning
(Hide the filtered content behind a warning mentioning the filter's title)

Hide completely
(Completely hide the filtered content, behaving as if it did not exist)
Dmitri Vassilenko

@darius Maybe "collecting"? Like, it collects the posts from the home timeline.

NowWeAreAllTom

@darius @d3cline "Silo lists" maybe? Or "side lists" (like asking for dressing on the side) or "cloistered lists?" Maybe I'm being too metaphorical here

Darius Kazemi

@tom @d3cline there was a suggestion for "contained lists" or "container list" that I liked best so far

Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵]

A lot of y’all would be interested in the above. If you’ve got a GitHub account it would be worth upvoting commenting. This lets you follow people, put them in lists, and choose not to see them in your Home feed. Great for avoiding the current problem of seeing posts twice

aaron

@darius Oh, that’s what that means. I like the idea of having people who post a little too often in their own little corner.

Darius Kazemi

@aaron That's one of the main things I use it for!

aaron

@darius It made immediate sense to me once I saw the description from the PR.

poswald

@darius do you have to be following them to put them in the list? So once on the list their posts don’t show up in the main home feed? Sounds cool but not clear how it behaves. Can a user be in two exclusive lists?

poswald

@darius functionally-wise this is really cool. There’s something odd about a list affecting the Home feed though. Maybe I’m just to used to twitters idea that “timeline is all your follows” and “lists can contain non-follows”. That’s perhaps conceptually simpler. I’ll gh upvote this feature though

Darius Kazemi

@poswald I definitely don't want lists that can contain non-follows (also it's actually impossible because following is a mutual-consent thing on the protocol here: you ask the remote user to send posts to you -- you don't pull posts from the remote user)

poswald

@darius interesting that it’s not even easily implemented … didn’t know that. I know there’s also the debate about if it encourages abuse… just a power user thing I miss. As for this feature I think it’s good. it feels like you're doing a “rules and filtering” approach like sieve at some level en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_

boojit

@darius I love this feature but just curious why you went with an "exclusive" toggle rather than a "show on home timeline" with the toggle state flipped. It just seems like the former requires extra explanation that the latter does not.

Kee Hinckley

@darius Yes please please please. Just upvoted that.

Magess :heart_ace:

@darius Yes, please! Would love to be able to quarantine certain things from my Home feed.

Bret Mogilefsky

@darius I would call these "follow lists", because (as I understand it) it's essentially just like the existing Follows+timeline, but corresponding to an different set of follows.

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