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One charger to rule them all ๐Ÿ”Œ

Only 100 days until the #commoncharger rules come into effect!

From 28 December, all new handheld electronic devices sold in the EU will be required to use a USB-C charger.

It means:
๐Ÿ”Œ One charger for all your devices, no matter the brand ๐Ÿค–๐ŸŽ
โšก Harmonised fast charging technology
โ™ป๏ธ Reduced e-waste

More โ†’ europa.eu/!hwjj3G

150 comments
Oleksii ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

@EUCommission picture is misleading. I think need to remove jack connector.

Rihards Olups

@Oleksii @EUCommission
Well, technically USB-C can carry audio as well... but given that the topic is about charging, audio jack does not belong there either.
On the third hand, most people will likely not notice =)

CIMB4

@richlv @Oleksii @EUCommission some cheap mp3 players actually used to charge over the headphone jack.. Actually i think my mom still has her old first mobile phone somewhere that charged over the tiny headphone jack (the one that's even smaller than 3,5mm)

__Miguel_

@CIMB4
One of the early small iPods actually charged via the 3.5mm jack, so it's still relevant. 2.5mm jack charging is news to me, but I'm assuming it's true, considering just how many proprietary charging standards (even within the same manufacturer, looking at you Nokia!) I experienced in my early days.
@richlv @Oleksii @EUCommission

Le Radiophare

@vikinghoarder @Oleksii @EUCommission i have 3 or 4 devices with Jacks for charging and USB A on the other Side of the cable. Barrell Connectors and audio Style Jacks as well.

Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@EUCommission The amount of apple fanboys I've seen the last year saying this is bad move is both hilarious and sad.

I'm on Android but I'm still very glad this change happened

queerthoughts

@thibaultmol Meanwhile Apple apparently protecting their batteries โ€ฆ

The war continues!

kฮ”

@thibaultmol @EUCommission No the point being made was Apple (often being painted as the problem) had been using the lighting connector on every device since 2012 before USB-C was a thing while companies like Samsung, Hauwei, Motorola, Nokia, Honor etc... had been shipping out new ranges of phones every year some with USB-C some with micro-USB (from 2007) even as this law was being discussed.

kฮ”

@thibaultmol @EUCommission And? Why? I bought a โ‚ฌ3.50 Qi charger from Ikea almost a decade ago and it had USB-C. Why did phones have miro-USB? Could Apple have used micro-USB up until this year? You can't have a double standard just to have a jab at Apple. That would make you a hypocrite Sir.

Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@kDelta budget phones used micro B because it was cheaper than usb-c.... Why the f*** are you getting so angry about this?! XDDD

I don't know why you're getting so emotionally frustrated in this discussion.

(The only logical conclusion is that you are one of those apple fanboys (I can tell by your profile) and now you feel attacked.....)

Bye, I've got better things to do

ClickyMcTicker

@thibaultmol @kDelta Yikes. You might wanna step away from the keyboard for a moment.

Barry Schwartz ๐Ÿซ–

@thibaultmol Apple fanboys suffer from a psychiatric problem. They cannot bear the existence of anyone with a complaint against Apple. So they try desperately to shut such a person up completely.

kฮ”

@thibaultmol @EUCommission Mr Reply-and-Block it seems to be you who is the angry one about this. If you didnโ€™t want to continue the discussion just stop and feel free to block, but to try and pretend you finished the discussion, just petty.

The point I was making was that USC-C was evidently cheap enough if a โ‚ฌ3.50 Qi charger can have it. Additionally cheap is not always the answer anyway.

As to me being an โ€œApple Fanboyโ€ Iโ€™m actually currently taking Apple to court for something. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

ClickyMcTicker

@thibaultmol @EUCommission (American) Apple fan here, Iโ€™d like to thank the EU for doing what capitalism and my own government wouldnโ€™t.
The irony is that my AirPods case still requires Lightning, so I canโ€™t ditch it *just* yet, but Iโ€™m super close and have eliminated almost all of the redundant cables. Spares got taken to friends and coworkers.

Melvin Gundlach

@EUCommission @thibaultmol I have not seen a single one. I have seen many people even outside of the EU that are thankful that the EU now finally forces Apple to use USB-C.

Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@melgu Even here on mastodon i'm seeing many fanboys crying to the EU for forcing apple and others to adopt USB-C. it's wild...

Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

@thibaultmol @EUCommission Meh, the iPad has used USB-C a while now, about time the iPhone did too.

Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@toriver
Ipad 7 (2019)
ipad 8 (2020)
ipad 9 (2021)
Ipad mini 5 (2019)
Ipad air 3 (2019)

And a bunch of other stuff: theverge.com/23871824/apple-pr

all had lightning connectors even though apple had been using usb-c on certain macbooks and ipads all the way back in 2015-2017 ...

The reason all these devices I mentioned don't have USB-C is because Apple didn't want to do it. If you want USB, you had to buy the pro products.
If apple actually cared, they would have gone ALL IN on C. They didn't.

@toriver
Ipad 7 (2019)
ipad 8 (2020)
ipad 9 (2021)
Ipad mini 5 (2019)
Ipad air 3 (2019)

And a bunch of other stuff: theverge.com/23871824/apple-pr

all had lightning connectors even though apple had been using usb-c on certain macbooks and ipads all the way back in 2015-2017 ...

Chrisshy Keygen

@yngmar @EUCommission YES! I would really like to see some manufacturing standards; or at LEAST labeling standards for cables with usb-c-shaped connectors.

Preferably written on the cable itself so when I'm digging through the cable drawer I don't have to test them to find out which ones can push at least 30W

Expertenkommision Cyberunfall

@EUCommission

So I can throw away all the old stuff and get new ones?

joosteto

@expertenkommision_cyberunfall @EUCommission
As long as the old stuff works, why would you throw it away?
Anyway, most phones sold the past couple of years already use USB-C chargers.

Steve

@expertenkommision_cyberunfall @EUCommission yes because all of your old devices will have to be retrofitted with usb-c jacks by law ๐Ÿคก

Honestly, just spend a minute thinking before you post polemic nonsense, please.

Expertenkommision Cyberunfall

@flying_saucers @EUCommission

There is a "before" and an "after" which seems to be related to the mentioned "in 100 days".
When "after" the event in 100 days Iยดll have a clean, neat cable only, this means that all my existing devices, which some of them work since >10 years, need a replacement or an adapter (which, by the way, is not in the picture).
Yes, I know that there is no need to dump all my stuff

Guillaume Endignoux

@EUCommission For those with short memory, the common charger was already a thing 15 years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_e

How can we make sure the regulation is successful this time and not abandonned again in 5 years to be reinstated again in 10 years? ๐Ÿค”

kainisenni

@gendx
Last time it was voluntary, this time it's mandatory
@EUCommission

Qazm

@gendx @EUCommission Afaict that one was never really a rule and the agreement only covered smartphones.

This one is for *everything* portable and USB-PD/USB-C as a standard has enough room to not get outdated anywhere close to as quickly. Afaict, Apple won't be able to dodge it with an adapter this time, either.

Can't wait for my next electric razors to be USB-charged, tbh. The current ones are by the same manufacturer yet still require two different chargers.

seanyseansean

@Qazm @gendx @EUCommission

Interesting some small embedded devices I have (vapes, that sort of thing) which have USB-C still don't charge unless they have a specific cable, so I assume they abuse the standards.

I've not read the law coming in, but is the standard just for the physical port or the negotiation / software bit?

Qazm

@seanyseansean @gendx @EUCommission The factsheet (here: ec.europa.eu/docsroom/document ) has that information. For a charger to be "fast charging", it must be USB-PD-compatible and supply at least 25W.

There are cable differences between compliant USB-C cables!
To support higher voltage and wattage, the cable must contain a negotiation chip too. Maybe the vapes require that.
It's often not clearly labelled, but let me see if I can find the video on it that I saw a while back.

IIrc, there can also be differences where a cable contains/doesn't contain some of the fibres used for power delivery.

Edit: Here's a similar video that appears thorough: youtube.com/watch?v=eYYjzLdKfe
I'm probably going to buy one of these too. I have a ton of cables I don't know the details of.

@seanyseansean @gendx @EUCommission The factsheet (here: ec.europa.eu/docsroom/document ) has that information. For a charger to be "fast charging", it must be USB-PD-compatible and supply at least 25W.

There are cable differences between compliant USB-C cables!
To support higher voltage and wattage, the cable must contain a negotiation chip too. Maybe the vapes require that.
It's often not clearly labelled, but let me see if I can find the video on it that I saw a while back.

Davey

@gendx @EUCommission

It wasn't a regulation though was it?

I do think it worked quite well to the extent that for phones, you could usually swap or share chargers with people fairly handy.

Of course, I've owned an iPhone so it's easy for me to say that :D

solstice

@gendx @EUCommission
The common charger from 15 years ago was voluntary. The one in effect today it mandatory

Cafรฉ-Junkie

@EUCommission
At least a first step (on a long road ahead).
Still to do...
- standardized Open APIs in public & governmental institutions
- Open data for all public financed science
- Open Source/Hardware first in the EU
- privacy and security by design mandatory
- basic IT course mandatory for politicians ;-)
...and we finally get good IT in the EU!
Yes, it's that simple.
Just DO!

CIMB4

@EUCommission you know how to get fedi people gushing about you, EU commission? Make manufacturers retroactively publish schematics of their other charging connectors so people can mod any old device to also use usb-c. I'm thinking old micro-usb/lightning phones, nintendo handhelds, wireless pc keyboards and mice, bluetooth music boxes, ...
Or actually.. Why not require manufacturers to publish complete schematics of any tech they don't sell anymore?

Ayo

@EUCommission Awesome, great job! :)

I also hope that the requirement for user-replaceable batteries will come into force by 2027, as widely discussed some time ago.

NEO//LIX ๐Ÿ”Š

@EUCommission And because something like this never really works, I now have USB-C cables that support energy, but no data; or data, but no fast charging; or only USB 2 data; with a lot of luck even Thunderbolt, and sometimes nothing. ๐Ÿคช

Argos Papiroflecta

@EUCommission

Creo que ya hubo en el pasado una unificaciรณn de formatos de cargadores, pero despuรฉs volvieron a diversificarse. Esta vez habrรก que vigilar que no vuelva a pasar.

Colin Dunn

@EUCommission Sorted that for you. Sadly this doesn't make older cables for legacy devices we try to keep running magically disappear. It just adds another. And what happens in 5 or 10 years if a new standard appears (presuming it is even allowed to)?

zl2tod

@Indyposterboy

Good call.

When exactly did the EC make a similar mandate for microUSB charging ports?

@EUCommission

David

@d4v @EUCommission
I don't understand why you say that. Is one of the few measurements that will benefit consumers. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

John Caveney woke is me๐Ÿ› ๏ธ

@EUCommission And are they guaranteed not to blow your hand off? Just asking for the victims of the latest Zionist atrocity.

Debby

@EUCommission Thank you dear EU, with the Common Charger rules you have not only made the EU better, but also helped us in the rest of the world.

Graham Downs

@EUCommission At what wattage, though? Because 99% of the time when I buy a new phone, I find I need a new charger anyway because the charger I got for the old phone is too weak for the new one.

And I have to pay extra for that new charger. It was so much simpler when all devices shipped with their own chargers, for free. :/

Lance

@EUCommission Without needing to look, I can say with near certainty that some fundamentalist is claiming this is the Mark of the Beast - the sign of a coming one world government!

It is, of course, a sensible move.

Alyx

@EUCommission thank you so much for killing a better port than USB-C, the lightning one. Itโ€™s so cool to see how much e-waste you created with this. Huge win for the planet for sure ๐Ÿ‘Œ

(If you are a person reading this, donโ€™t come to laugh at me, we both hate e-waste. I donโ€™t see how this would not create more e-waste over few years while Apple and their users are moving to USB-C. You disagree with the port being better, you disagree with how I see things e-waste wise, I donโ€™t mind at all, itโ€™s ok. At the end of the day, if we were IRL, we would just agree that e-waste is bad, and corporations are fucking us, and cars and yadiyada.)

@EUCommission thank you so much for killing a better port than USB-C, the lightning one. Itโ€™s so cool to see how much e-waste you created with this. Huge win for the planet for sure ๐Ÿ‘Œ

(If you are a person reading this, donโ€™t come to laugh at me, we both hate e-waste. I donโ€™t see how this would not create more e-waste over few years while Apple and their users are moving to USB-C. You disagree with the port being better, you disagree with how I see things e-waste wise, I donโ€™t mind at all, itโ€™s ok....

LN

@alyx @EUCommission If Apple had opened up Lightning to other devices and device makers maybe you'd have a point but their licensing has even led to third-party headphones using "lightning plus Bluetooth" because they can only use the cable for power and need to fall back to Bluetooth for the actual audio.

Alyx

@ln But thatโ€™s not my point, itโ€™s not a golden thing for sure, itโ€™s just that bragging about keeping e-waste volume down while creating some feels wrong. They could have accepted to force all new devices to USB-C, most of the market was already aligning on this anyway, and allow Apple to carry on with the lightning one. They would have switched anyway at some point.
Please donโ€™t attack me personally over this, it would be the third time over this, I donโ€™t have the mind space for this today ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿฅบ

BlossomingAsp

@alyx @EUCommission I'm not sure I understand what your logic is behind this. We can't have greedy corporations roll out their propreitary connectors just to abandon them a fews years down the line. I couldn't care less if we have USB-C or Lightning as the standard or something else. As long as it works and it is available to everyone. But Apple never had the intention to make Lightning available for other manufacturers. Besides, they already started using USB-C for data a few years ago...

Alyx

@BlossomingAsp I hope this answer your question eldritch.cafe/@alyx/1131638216
Let me know - respectfully - if not

BlossomingAsp

@alyx I hope you didn't take it personally, it was not an attack at you, I don't know you. If you believe that it would be okay to make an exception for Apple on this, I understand your point, I just don't agree with it. ๐Ÿ˜… But fair enough, we can have different opinions. Again, I hope you didn't take it personally, I didn't want to be mean. And thanks for taking the effort to reply.

Alyx

@BlossomingAsp No worries no worries, I was just scared it was going to be unrespectful like some mentions I had ๐Ÿ˜ฉ I should not take these personally. I appreciate your concern.
Yeah plus like I said to others, at the end of the day, we are aligned, we hate e-waste and - I guess - other ecological nightmares going on around the world. Iโ€™m sure if we were facing each other we would have a nice conversation and the disagreement would not last more than 30s haha.
Thank you again for being so kind and respectful, I had a rough morning ๐Ÿฉท

@BlossomingAsp No worries no worries, I was just scared it was going to be unrespectful like some mentions I had ๐Ÿ˜ฉ I should not take these personally. I appreciate your concern.
Yeah plus like I said to others, at the end of the day, we are aligned, we hate e-waste and - I guess - other ecological nightmares going on around the world. Iโ€™m sure if we were facing each other we would have a nice conversation and the disagreement would not last more than 30s haha.
Thank you again for being so kind...

Andrew

@alyx @EUCommission i really don't understand this take, like, for sure scrapping apple's weird nonstandard cables will really in some waste, but how is that anyone's fault but apple's?

Alyx

@andrewt IIRC when they switched away from their 30 pins cable the standard was mini or micro USB which was really shitty. Lightning was ahead of its time, and they had no reason to scrap it until USB-C came around and was not so bad. My personal opinion is that lightning is a better experience, you donโ€™t have to look where to plug the cable thanks to the rounded edges, and it clicks nicely. But USB-C is good enough.
So I donโ€™t think itโ€™s Apple fault. If they had switched to every USB standard they would have ended with much more port than just the 30 pins and lightning. Sure though if the standard was open, maybe everyone would had aligned on it, I agree with this.
I think it would have been better if both USB-C and Lightning could have lived together longer for a smoother transition.
But again like I said to now like 5 people, we are aligned: we donโ€™t like e-waste. Letโ€™s not fight. I just donโ€™t agree that itโ€™s reducing e-waste.

@andrewt IIRC when they switched away from their 30 pins cable the standard was mini or micro USB which was really shitty. Lightning was ahead of its time, and they had no reason to scrap it until USB-C came around and was not so bad. My personal opinion is that lightning is a better experience, you donโ€™t have to look where to plug the cable thanks to the rounded edges, and it clicks nicely. But USB-C is good enough.
So I donโ€™t think itโ€™s Apple fault. If they had switched to every USB standard they...

vriesk (Jan Srzednicki)

@EUCommission Now, please enforce USB-C cable standardization:
- that each cable MUST have clear markings on supported protocol (USB2? USB3?) and power
- that this is actually tested and verified

USB-C is great, but the cables are a mess; I never know what a given cable supports by looking at it; some have power markings, but almost none have protocol speed markings.

With USB-A, you could tell the protocol by looking at the plug (both wiring and color: blue).

@EUCommission Now, please enforce USB-C cable standardization:
- that each cable MUST have clear markings on supported protocol (USB2? USB3?) and power
- that this is actually tested and verified

USB-C is great, but the cables are a mess; I never know what a given cable supports by looking at it; some have power markings, but almost none have protocol speed markings.

asudox

@EUCommission Thanks for this. It's been really annoying to have different ports for everything.

ENIGMATICO :heartbleed:

@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu What will happen when USB-C falls obsolete in favor of something better? โ€‹:neocat_googly_woozy_legs_right:โ€‹

GolfNovemberUniform

@EUCommission now let's hope it won't cause the USB certification company to make it more closed or broken on open-source systems/apps.

Robin Bobcat

@EUCommission

Douglas Adams once wrote an impassioned rant about the proliferation of dongles. So many tips and voltages and other uselessly proprietary power supplies. Things looked good with USB, but then things got weird again.
He'd be happy things have settled in.

Xavier B.

@EUCommission Perhaps now you have to act regarding printers: set a common standard ink printer cartridge could benefit people. It's simply: all the printers must use the same cartridge (size, milliliters of ink, etc.). Then people will not have hidden costs of printing and no printing silos (each printer manufacturer sells only their uncompatible cartridges)

#freedom #printers #competence

Chris

@EUCommission And now make sure all USB-C Cables support the same features or have to be marked if they only charge without data connection for example.

There are so many shitty USB-C cables out there. I even have some that work differently depending on which side of this reversible connector is up...

mirabilos

@cbeloch @EUCommission using USB C was a mistake, and I said so right from the beginning.

You ought to have used Mini-USB (not Micro-USB) and mandated a sligtly better fit of the plug in the socket so it cannot slide out normally.

Benefits: trivially visible orientation, no wrong-side plugging in, and much more stable. And (besides power-only cables, which support only 125 mA anyway) all cables do the same thing. Even Mini-USB OTG is available, Iโ€™ve used it on a Zaurus spitz.

I sometimes have to try both sides even with USB C because one side just doesnโ€™t want to go in, and every time I plug in a USB C, it feels like the middle part is going to break off easily.

Durable tech is done differently.

Just the other day, I saw that soldering USB C sockets is also extremely tricky due to tight spacing, low tolerances, and some other things I donโ€™t recall exactly (but Iโ€™m not a soldering expert), so this is actively harming hobbyist use as well.

@cbeloch @EUCommission using USB C was a mistake, and I said so right from the beginning.

You ought to have used Mini-USB (not Micro-USB) and mandated a sligtly better fit of the plug in the socket so it cannot slide out normally.

Benefits: trivially visible orientation, no wrong-side plugging in, and much more stable. And (besides power-only cables, which support only 125 mA anyway) all cables do the same thing. Even Mini-USB OTG is available, Iโ€™ve used it on a Zaurus spitz.

Michael Westergaard
Iโ€™m going to flush my old chargers down the toilet and leave them in nature. Youโ€™re not fixing chargers, just forcing half the population to get new ones.
Stรฉphane Calonnec๐Ÿ—ฟ

@EUCommission I always loved the idea, but NOT USB-C. That's a standard with lots of capabilities, but so much weak and fragile...lots of devices will be trashed only because of of a faulty USB connector.

Monsieur Ralph

@EUCommission Alas USB-C โ‰  USB-C. One name, many incompatible variants. You should address this major pain point for consumers.

Kristian H. Kristensen

@EUCommission Why not laptops? They're the ones needing the biggest legislative push.

andreaskem

@krh @EUCommission "These requirements will also apply to laptops as of 28 April 2026."

Rickd6

@EUCommission only for the new ones you buy. All the current ones still need the old stuff.

John Lusk

@EUCommission

@pluralistic

Wait... Don't they ALREADY require USB-B (which is crap for charging)?

Leeloo

@EUCommission
Excspt USB-C is not the same as USB-C. You can have a power supply and a device that supports the same number of watts, but the charger does so by supplying more volts where as the device demands more amp.

Then there's the cable which may not support either.

And that's just for charging, sometimes USB-C is not USB at all, but HDMI or Thunderbolt.

Specifying USB-C is worth about as much as specifying that it must use a copper cable. My wall socket can deliver 2300 watt (230V, 10A) and my car battery can deliver 2400 watt (12V, 200A), both over copper cables. They are still not compatible.

@EUCommission
Excspt USB-C is not the same as USB-C. You can have a power supply and a device that supports the same number of watts, but the charger does so by supplying more volts where as the device demands more amp.

Then there's the cable which may not support either.

And that's just for charging, sometimes USB-C is not USB at all, but HDMI or Thunderbolt.

truh

@EUCommission I wish. Compatibility between different USB C chargers is less than guaranteed and device manufacturers often tell you not to use 3rd party chargers.

nobletrout

@EUCommission @daedalus and thus charging was forever frozen in time from then on, preventing 48 volt 100 amp charging for phones needed to prevent the glipglorkak invasion in 2312 and dooming humanity to a life of servitude mining dilorium spheres on taxicly prime for a thousand years.

OddOpinions5

@EUCommission

What % of ewaste will this reduce ?
I would guess 1%, so this is just performative bullshit from gov't bureaucrats who don't even try to do real reform like making all PCBs and Video screens to be easily recycltable

Jason Carty

@EUCommission What happens when USB-C becomes out of date? Who decides the next standard?

K

@EUCommission one chat control for all your messages, no matter if itโ€™s private or public message.๐Ÿ˜›

Heals :heart_nb: (comms open)

@EUCommission @theresmiling looking forward to explaining to everyone in my parents generation why some of their 10+ different but identical looking USB-C cables won't work for charging half their device's and doesn't charge the other half fast and why not every USB-C charger works for everything..

(Or why their seemingly standard charger will fry the power outlet in most trains).

Good times ahead :)

DELETED

@EUCommission Great so now When I buy my next iPhone I can throw out the dozens of Lightning cables so that I own, That will reduce waste?

Good joh! ๐Ÿ‘

Eric Nieuwland

@EUCommission
Although I agree a standard was most welcome I doubt whether USB-C was the best choice.

Tommi Nieminen

@EUCommission โ€œOne charger to rule them allโ€โ€ฆ Like the One Ring was such a mighty idea?

bufalo1973

@EUCommission it would be nice if you did the same with electric hardware batteries. 12V, one common connection. 18V, another common connection. So it wouldn't matter if you buy a Makita circular saw and have some Einhell batteries that operate with the same V.

#commoncharger

Prastowo Yustinus

@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu SOON, THE EU WILL FORCE APPLE TO MAKE IOS AND MACOS BECAME OPEN SOURCE!

Nazo

@EUCommission I've worked retail and I still remember the days of having to help people find a charger that worked for their devices. First you had to narrow by brand, and then by generation, and finally you'd still sometimes have to check two or three different types.

I'm amazed somehow the market accepted going towards a single standard, but I offer nothing but gratitude that somehow this has happened. Laws enforcing it are the final nail in the coffin.

Too bad USB-C is backwards though ๐Ÿ˜ž

Hans-Cees

@EUCommission @martinv this might be a good time for gorgonzola meme?

Sebastian "spaetz" Spaeth

@EUCommission I still have a few digital cameras at home that use *really* weird cables for charging (which are all long gone in the black wormhole where all cables go after some time). Appreciated!

Radlerin ๐Ÿšดโ€โ™€๏ธ

@EUCommission
How will this reduce the e-waste if all devices still come with their own cable?

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