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Guillaume Endignoux

@EUCommission For those with short memory, the common charger was already a thing 15 years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_e

How can we make sure the regulation is successful this time and not abandonned again in 5 years to be reinstated again in 10 years? 🤔

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kainisenni

@gendx
Last time it was voluntary, this time it's mandatory
@EUCommission

Qazm

@gendx @EUCommission Afaict that one was never really a rule and the agreement only covered smartphones.

This one is for *everything* portable and USB-PD/USB-C as a standard has enough room to not get outdated anywhere close to as quickly. Afaict, Apple won't be able to dodge it with an adapter this time, either.

Can't wait for my next electric razors to be USB-charged, tbh. The current ones are by the same manufacturer yet still require two different chargers.

seanyseansean

@Qazm @gendx @EUCommission

Interesting some small embedded devices I have (vapes, that sort of thing) which have USB-C still don't charge unless they have a specific cable, so I assume they abuse the standards.

I've not read the law coming in, but is the standard just for the physical port or the negotiation / software bit?

Qazm

@seanyseansean @gendx @EUCommission The factsheet (here: ec.europa.eu/docsroom/document ) has that information. For a charger to be "fast charging", it must be USB-PD-compatible and supply at least 25W.

There are cable differences between compliant USB-C cables!
To support higher voltage and wattage, the cable must contain a negotiation chip too. Maybe the vapes require that.
It's often not clearly labelled, but let me see if I can find the video on it that I saw a while back.

IIrc, there can also be differences where a cable contains/doesn't contain some of the fibres used for power delivery.

Edit: Here's a similar video that appears thorough: youtube.com/watch?v=eYYjzLdKfe
I'm probably going to buy one of these too. I have a ton of cables I don't know the details of.

@seanyseansean @gendx @EUCommission The factsheet (here: ec.europa.eu/docsroom/document ) has that information. For a charger to be "fast charging", it must be USB-PD-compatible and supply at least 25W.

There are cable differences between compliant USB-C cables!
To support higher voltage and wattage, the cable must contain a negotiation chip too. Maybe the vapes require that.
It's often not clearly labelled, but let me see if I can find the video on it that I saw a while back.

Davey

@gendx @EUCommission

It wasn't a regulation though was it?

I do think it worked quite well to the extent that for phones, you could usually swap or share chargers with people fairly handy.

Of course, I've owned an iPhone so it's easy for me to say that :D

solstice

@gendx @EUCommission
The common charger from 15 years ago was voluntary. The one in effect today it mandatory

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