@elduvelle can't wait to see how this goes... So far after 14 minutes not a single person who's even gone as far as saying they are centrist
😂😂

@elduvelle shit I clicked the wrong one ... Pout

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The left vs far-left is interesting for me, since US left is mostly center, and EU far-left is beyond the ken of most USians.

I would like UBI, universal healthcare, high wealth taxes, reparations, strong environmental protection, and nuclear, solar, & wind power so I picked "Left" :-)

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If this were a website with any kind of tracking, one would have to be a fool to answer this question.

@elduvelle Where's the "it's unwise to describe my policy positions online" option?

@elduvelle how about none of the above

@elduvelle I describe myself as a feminist, a Hillary Clinton Democrat, and that’s a more nuanced answer than left of center.

@elduvelle In my bio: social democrat, reformist, technoprogressive humanist

@elduvelle Depends on where the spectrum is defined. In most of the world I am left or center left. In the US I would be considered radical left

@elduvelle The center of people who agree with me.

@elduvelle I chose “Left” because supporting basic human rights shouldn’t be considered “far”. I’m sure some of my conservative relatives consider me ultra-far-left, though.

@elduvelle @rayckeith I don’t view politics as a linear scale.

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@elduvelle Oh my…I must be dyslexia. I meant to mark left but I actually marked right. Is there a way for me to erase my vote and then revote? I felt dumb!

@elduvelle I'm a democratic socialist that quotes Marx and supports Corbyn style candidates so I put "left" and not far-left. I'm not a communist or an anarchist so...

@elduvelle blocked for political stuff

@elduvelle I hesitate to say "far left" these days, because I suspect I'm not as far as I used to be...

@elduvelle I am left, but a pragmatist. The how is as important as the where we’re going.

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i dont really subscribe to the left / right dichotomy but my opinion on policy and social issue would put me in the left

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*boosted with prejudice*

@elduvelle I'd say I vary between center right and center left

@elduvelle anarchist but the type of anarchist that has to stay extremely quiet about it irl and causes me to be constantly full of rage

@elduvelle I will be surprised to see anyone on the right side here. The Fed Verse seems to be a big left-wing echo chamber...

@elduvelle Voluntary Socialist.

In the US "Far Left" is left of center.

@elduvelle I'm so far left that if the earth were flat I'd be falling off of the left edge. 😹

Centre-left, Centre-right, and Left-Conservative missing 😀

@elduvelle run it on Twitter and it will be the exact mirror image

@elduvelle @Nadinabbott I believe in and support republicanism supported vis classical liberalism at a federal level and a socialist governmental operation for cities.

So which do I pick?

@elduvelle Missing option: Do you have a court order for that?

@elduvelle im a very full blooded communist who wants all the peeps to read lenin! i may even have a nice thing or two say about stalin too, such as what a fine mushtash

read lenin, his book state and revolution at the very least or imperialism the highest stage of capitalism

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Global center, far left in whackadoodle 'Murica.

@elduvelle @WuMargaret orthogonal

@elduvelle Restore the #Habsburgs !

@elduvelle It depends what country you are in. In my country I would be considered left, or centre left. In the USA I would be considered off-the-scale far left.

Over here the democrats would be considered a right wing party.

@elduvelle - can I have a "radical queer post left illegalist insurrectionalist anarchist" option, please?

@elduvelle WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

(That's my best effort at boosting wildly)

@elduvelle I don't consider myself far-left, but I also feel that capitalism is collapsing around our ears and we're a generation from outgrowing it.

@elduvelle f*ck... No edit button on mastodon's polls. Hint to my future self: don't answer polls before the first cup of coffee.

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@elduvelle Americans need to shift themselves like at least 3 steps to the right.

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I'm really not sure about categorizing people any more. It's OK as long as I do it for myself. But I 'm alternating between 2 poles and dislike to be defined by the public right/left scheme. Compare to ask how much female, male or diverse s.o's sexuality may be?

@elduvelle Not gonna vote bcs I've read the replies and there's clearly no consensus over what anything means.

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I voted Far Left but I am wondering if this is just because the world is drifting so far right.

@elduvelle Center left ... somewhere between Biden and AOC / Sanders.

@elduvelle@neuromatch.social anarchy

@elduvelle, since I understood as a young man the injustices in the world almost 60 years ago on the left of the spectrum. Compared to the current, what is called left in European policy so decaffeinated and unable to ally due to secondary ideological differences, I have no choice but to place myself on the extreme left. Things from perspective so as not to get confused.

@elduvelle far-left. Radical ideas (anarcho-sydicalism) but not militant (so far).

@elduvelle hard to answer as I don't know what constitutes far left 😅 leftist politics are kinda all over the place and I can't tell if I'm more or less left than a lot of people with different views from mine

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brave of u to invite this into ur mentions lol

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"Left" and "Left" are pretty different, depending on where you live, though. I think "Left" in Germany would be "Far Left" in the US, for example.

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To me, it's a sphere, not a continuum, so I'm center on this one.

Amazing how many deadhead-trumper-organic-anti-vaxers are out there. Mind-blowing, really.

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False dichotomy.
1. Authoritarian
2. Anarchist

Far-left, left, center, right and far-right are ALL Authoritarian, forcing other people to swallow their flavor of righteousness.

@elduvelle Boostin wildly, and widely - I hope.

@elduvelle I ticked far left, because here in the UK our traditional left of centre party is trying to creep as far to the right as it can… and to be honest I'm slightly to the left of them at the best of times…

@elduvelle you should specify which country you are talking about. The meanings of these labels are very different in different countries, and so are problems we have to deal with, often making these labels unimportant. This is a global forum and english is lingua franca, so not specifying you are talking about US politics (I assume) is contributing to US cultural hegemony in ways that the rest of us don't appreciate. Please specify countries in your politics posts.

@elduvelle It is quite hard to tell... since different people have different standards... Do you think communism is left or far left?

@elduvelle is this the euro or USAian scale?

@elduvelle i like the results of this poll

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I say center. I’m not a compromiser. I choose every single position & opinion without any loyalty to any group.

@elduvelle@neuromatch.social I'm not that political active and would say I'm in the center. Especially since the last party I voted for cannot be considered as leaning towards either the left or the right.

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Um Neutral good I think.

@elduvelle On what scale? Right in Europe is considered Left in the US

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I'm centre left, getting more left with age, in European terms. Which probably means far left in US terms 😂

@elduvelle Not many people who boost your content seem to resonate with the right or far-right.

Do you think this is representative of Fedi/Mastodon as a whole? 🤔

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Not boosting because the poll is missing an "other" choice. I'm personnaly a Montagnard, which is a french revolutionary for democracy and we are placed at the top

@elduvelle I am boringly left. Not far left or centre left or hard left or vaguely left or any other qualifiers. Just left. Somewhere in that area occupied by democratic socialist and social democrat.

@elduvelle I entered "center" but I am in denial about the validity of the reframing of political positions over the past 60 years.

@elduvelle The left-right paradigm is far too constraining. In American politics left and progressive are almost synonyms, same goes for the Right and conservative. On welfare and environmental issues I'm left leaning and progressive, on medical-ethical issues I'm more conservative, but not necessarily on the right. Here in the Netherlands, politics fortunately is no package deal.

@elduvelle Green, rather than grey. People can be left or right-leaning and still in effect ignoring the multiple collapses we face ( species extinction, ecosystem collapse, climate collapse etc)

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Do you mean in the morning or in the afternoon?

@elduvelle The party 🏴 I wanted to vote for in the most recent local elections I as a foreigner am allowed to vote in turned out to be on a government watchlist. They stared something to the extent of capitalism being dehumanizing. That's a crime, in 𝕲𝖊𝖗𝖒𝖆𝖓𝖞.

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@elduvelle I'm in the centre of my scale. Not sure where the rest of you see me. 😉

@elduvelle left! It’s the only place to be! I love the human race in all it’s perfect imperfections! Come and join us on the left and make the left normal and centrist! You know you want to! 💪✊

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what @elduvelle said plus socially-owned businesses where something is essential and isn’t being provided at a reasonable price. gov support for coops and worker ownership. prevent concentration of power and wealth in rich people, corporations or government. maximize freedom. protect the environment, convince people to reduce the population to a susstainable level and to be vegetarian - left of progressive democrats, but not far left.

@elduvelle I honestly don't know anymore.

@elduvelle I suspect I'd have been centre-left in my youth and probably be called far-left now, without shifting my own position. The media narrative brands as far left policies which were implemented by Labour (UK) and Social democrat governments in the 1970s.

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Far far far left.
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Centre-left.

@elduvelle You mean that 1% of Mastodon Tooters count themselves as Far-right?? Pretty quiet lot I think.

@elduvelle All of them.

@elduvelle Anarcho-syndicalist here.

While I'm probs considered "far-left", I think my views overall are pretty moderate. 😄

@elduvelle A simple left-right scale does not capture my position. which I would describe as libertarian-left. This means I sometimes have more sympathy with the libertarian right than with the statist left.

@elduvelle I would consider myself a socialist, and so left (not far-left becasue there is extremism there that I am not into).

But I would also fundamentally reject the left-right division in our politics. I think it makes for bad decision making processes.

My political position if far more nuanced than a simple dichotomy allows, and I think most peoples is as well. But we are forced into this artificial split, so that it is always "Us" vs "Them".

Because that is what those in power want.

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Not on a one-dimensional linear scale. But if I have to choose: more to the left.

Problem: if I understood correctly even European bourgeois would be considered left from an US point of view…

@elduvelle I have voted centre, because that is what I think I am. In modern Britain, that feels as if I am far-left, but in the 1950s, it could equally be considered Conservative.
The perspective has swung towards the extreme right.

@elduvelle i don't identify as any political group or category. i'm a humanist. hivemind is the founding problem of our modern world because things rarely ever gets done, and on the odd chance that it does, it's never anything useful for humanity as a whole anyway.

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Although liberal, I am terrified by the thought of a third-party candidate. Let's get through the crazy part of the crowd and legislate for a minute. END #CitzensUnited. #VOTE

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1% of far-right is already too much :(

@elduvelle @Radical_EgoCom Depends on the point of view: I think I‘m center but from any right point of view I might appear as far left.

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Does "free healthcare, no fascim, yes to UBI, outlaw billionaires" count as "left" or "far-left" these days? :blobfoxthinking:

@elduvelle@neuromatch.social Depending on who you ask, people might even place me on the "far-left". Settled for "left" nonetheless. Don't get how you can be anything else nowadays.

@elduvelle interesting insight into those who responded to this post.

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Did one of those tests for comparing to US politicians. With the results, literally every running politician was on the extreme right, and the scale still wasn’t long enough to put us on an appropriate spot on the left, but put us right over the edge of the page.

So, probably slightly left-leaning? 😅