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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org This is either complimentary or insulting and i am unsure which.... checks if hands are visible @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org   @davidrevoy Thingos of the bird site 😜. Sorry for the joke, but here we know you too well to make this comments. Hugs! @Gavy Au bout d'un moment, va falloir aller vérifier si @davidrevoy ne serait pas un androïde spécialisé dans l'art. @Gavy @Vilrax Ha, ben ça m'interesse aussi pour le coup si j'ai un concepteur. J'ai une assez grande liste de bug-report sur mes biais et ce *#@! de corps. Assez pour me demander si j'étais pas un projet fait le vendredi soir sur un coin table après un pot de départ un peu trop arrosé et publié à la hâte avant de partir en vacances. 😆  @davidrevoy @nyandzette @davidrevoy La seule réaction raisonnable c'est de répondre : "Quelle I.A. avez-vous utilisé pour générer cette question ?" '^^ @davidrevoy the ai is called krita and the bare flesh of a human hand (and also a few hundred calories)
  You deserve it for blocking me just because I asked you why you added an “eye contact” trigger warning.
 Beautiful artwork! Fuck AI generated art (mostly). I'm glad artist like you exist who refuse to use that stuff.
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 @madiko @davidrevoy you know that you have a loyal community over here. Since the owner switched there, the ratio of trolls increased. I'm aware that the network has value for marketing. But don't let that drag you down. @madiko Yes, thank you for the advice :blobcatheart: , but it was on the birdsite as mentioned by @RyunoKi. True Ryuno-Ki, Thanks. Yes, I archived my Twitter data, removed all people from "my follow" that I could find here on Fediverse, and just kept my Tw account as a (RSS) relay to post the main news now (yes, for the visibility of my project). True, I should be more prepared to receive comments from Posthumanism/AI Take Over, NFTs, Crypto, and all the baggage that come with that.  @davidrevoy Grins with cat teeth: »I don’t need an AI for this.« (better: »One to whom you can actually explain your wishes. For 300€¹ I’ll show you.«) ¹: guess. Insert the actual cost of your image when paid fairly.   @davidrevoy Wow, this is utterly heartbreaking. 😣 I'd probably react really pissed to these people answering like "it's called skill and talent, b**ch". Would change nothing though... @emmetoneill @davidrevoy honestly wondering if the reply account is an actual bot, created to devalue actual art to try to inflate the value of some other grift going on somewhere @davidrevoy ton métier ne sert plus à rien. @wekeys Autant le "ton métier ne sert plus à rien.", je comprends, et comme c'est mon métier, je prend ça au sens large. Mais la seconde partie est assez violente et plus pour ma pomme: "va te vendre", "sur Twitch", "react cringe" ... Je t'ai fait du mal par le passé ou je me fais une idée?    @jeko :shibalaugh: haha, I guess I have to see the glass as half full. Maybe it's a compliment. @fartkart Oh, I did. It's just not on the screenshot. But you know, you'll be disappointed by what I really answered because I was polite and all.  @davidrevoy fwiw when I saw it the other day my 1st reaction this image was, 'this is a true artist, no AI could have ever done this.' @eljefedsecurit @davidrevoy same, like that was obviously done by a (extremely skilled) person  @roelfrenkema Remove the consonants, then read it backwards. 🤯 Coincidence? 🤨 I think no…uh, well yeah, probably that's coincidence. @davidrevoy In the future, it will be a complement to be compared to an AI. "Wow, you made this? It looks like it came out of an AI!" @Joseph_of_Earth @davidrevoy imagining some sort of idiocracy a few generations from now where no one knows how to draw anymore?  @davidrevoy un ignare consommateur de betises sur le net ; en somme une ia tres forte pour generer des conneries .... c'est frequent ...    Answer "the same A.I. you use to ask your question… But I probably tweaking mine better than yours" @davidrevoy This is such a sad joke by this person. I love this art. I'm growing so tired of all this AI bullshit.  @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org People got so attached to the machines that they forgot humans also have skills. @davidrevoy That is why I like to include the AI information when I post pictures made with AI. We should just assume that you drew/painted it yourself when you don't. @0xUtnoid @davidrevoy Exactly. The good thing about AI art is that it is free for anyone to use. The bad thing about AI art is that it is easy enough for everyone to use. @kinyutaka @davidrevoy yes, like photography that now is available on every phone, instead of having to pay thousands of dollars for the body/lens/lab. @0xUtnoid @davidrevoy Gonna be honest, I would rather see a well rendered, if strange image of a castle in the fog hanging on the wall of a museum, compared to a moldy banana duck taped to the wall until it rots as a statement. @0xUtnoid @kinyutaka @davidrevoy it's just like how, if you post art by another person, you should link to that person or else people will assume you did it yourself. @0xUtnoid @raphaelmorgan @davidrevoy @kinyutaka How do you think AI Art Engines work? Do you think they’re just automatic collage makers? @davidrevoy @kinyutaka Whenever I post AI stuff I usually just go # AI-Generated or something like that. @davidrevoy I think most commenters are overreacting here. They likely never heard of Krita so didn't have the clue. AI-generated images are hot right now and it looks like many others; they likely saw it in passing and liked it enough to comment. To address some other comments, AI image generation isn't "stealing" just because it's trained on your work. It's making new works inspired by it. Would you hate people for making works inspired by your work? The AI is doing the same thing. @davidrevoy if you're more concerned about how much time and effort it takes you vs an AI, you could use those tools too to assist in your work. Generate some stuff based on your work and start from there. Fix up ones you like, or just use it for inspiration. @Tanath I find it problematic that you put on the same level: 1. Creators who love, hate, and interact with input within the zeitgeist and then get inspired (consciously or unconsciously) by that. AND 2. An A.I. software that received a massive list of URL of images inputs+descriptions, without the consent of their authors, and curated by a team (with their own political choices). I wouldn't call 2 inspiration but just massive stealing of data for analysis. (edited for CW) @davidrevoy that's not my intention. I'm not equating those. People are conscious, emotional beings, while AI currently are not. There may be ethical issues w/scraping publicly posted data but that's a separate issue from what I was saying. That said, people can view the images, do analysis and use it for inspiration, so why can't AI? The real problem as I see it is that it lowers the value of such work. That is an unfortunate downside but it's often the cost of progress from new tech. @davidrevoy @gekitsu @Tanath Overfitting is an error, not a desired result. @Tanath @davidrevoy if you don't know enough about the person posting art to know that they're not using AI, maybe you don't know enough to assume they're using AI? Just maybe?   @davidrevoy I really wonder how we, as human beings, will handle this AI augmented future. I expect it will often make us think about how we evaluate certain things. For example: Do we like a painting because its pretty? because it tells a story? because it inspires our imagination? or maybe because of its history? how it was created or by whom? Humans have always built tools to extend their abilities and to overcome their limitations but how long will it take to get used to these new tools?  @davidrevoy @sepia everyone's data eventually will get scraped so I'm not worried about that. I don't even bother to check if mines were being scrapped. Just do the thing you do, ai doesnt have the personality and the life experiences to make the same thing you make @chengdulittlea @davidrevoy @sepia agreed on both points, even as someone that is messing with ai art. But I would still want to see a model that's just public domain stuff and the rest being opt-in. @tannerspaw Same, I wish a model existed trained exclusively on CC-0 and Public Domain resources.
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@davidrevoy @chengdulittlea @sepia also it claims they didn't scrape anything at all, common crawl is an old project that created dumps of the ~entire internet, they seem to have simply formated whatever can be formatted there into a txt-img paralel corpus. @davidrevoy @chengdulittlea @sepia oh actually the large one does have a detector for watermarked images, and for I believe porn, so that any downstream user could avoid training on such images. @davidrevoy @sepia "Register an account to opt-out your images from Stable Diffusion V3" This is the most fucking upside-down logic I've ever seen, and definitely 100% illegal basically anywhere on the planet. However this is the internet - it will be used anyway, and with the modern economy also using data in immoral amounts things won't change in the near future. 😔  @davidrevoy @sepia @sepia @davidrevoy it's a good reminder and the answers will be very different for each piece if i want a random carpet texture for my fast-paced tactical fps i'm fine with anything that looks vaguely carpety ingame and i can just take 20 shots of the floor at my day job, feed it through the ai and tell it to make it tile properly but if this is a narrative game and i want what's on that floor to symbolize something, or resemble something bc it's a reference to some other thing... @davidrevoy Remarque j'ai faillit la faire sur celle du dragon, mais je me suis ravisé, c'est une mauvaise blague. @davidrevoy @alfredohno @davidrevoy step one: buy strong magnet
step two: infiltrate the server rooms of any ai art website you can find  @davidrevoy autocorrect can really mangle a sentence "Cool witch! What did you use for this?" If they followed you, they'd know it was most likely Krita @davidrevoy I thought A.I. ripping off our software (via github auto pilot) was bad enough. But it looks like it is even worse for artists. At least nobody was asking programmers: ”which A.I. engine wrote your program”. @davidrevoy You can tell it isn't AI art because it doesn't use the same boring blue orange color scheme that all AI art seems to use.  @davidrevoy apparemment il y a des artistes qui jouent à tromper les bots https://wandering.shop/@Nezchan/109515222808624385 @davidrevoy oh my god that sounds exhausting. I'm so sorry.
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@davidrevoy It's really sad to see that. Unfortunately, this seems to be a future of art and artists... Stay strong !  @davidrevoy C'est triste… Mais en prenant du recul, c'est aussi un drôle de compliment. D'un point de vue historique, cela me fait penser au remplacement des peintres par la photographie, puis les photographes par la photo numérique, etc. Il y en a toujours, mais moins 😋 Courage ! |
@davidrevoy So tired...