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Low Quality Facts

How to use Mastodon:

Step 1: Sign up.

Step 2: Do regular social media stuff.

Journalists: Only those with advanced degrees in computer science should even attempt to navigate Mastodon, the frustrations of its complexities will drive the average user to a state of hysteria.

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Lawler Hix :verified:

@lowqualityfacts i can't help but feel that you straight up copypasta'd that last part from an actual article lmfao.

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@lowqualityfacts That moment when media are more elitist about some piece of software than software enthusiast communities

mofu mofu fumo
@rail @lowqualityfacts it's truly a sight to see when a community that isn't arch linux acts more insufferable tha everyone else online.
MargotB

@lowqualityfacts Ah I didn't know that I have advanced degrees in computer science.

Peter Koopman ๐Ÿฆฃ

@lowqualityfacts
Mastodon is way too hard. The horror of of having to think about what to toot next. ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

Sadie Nightshade ๐Ÿ”ž๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธโ›“๏ธ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿฆˆ

@lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social Yeah but it requires the effort of finding an instance you like and thatโ€™s new and scary and super hard and totally not worth the trade off of having admins and mods who actually give a shit about making sure the community theyโ€™re creating is not overrun with Nazis. ๐Ÿ™„

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@lowqualityfacts
"How will I *ever* choose which instance to join?"
Oh FFS just pick one you twat - there's a special one for journalists and everything.
And then there's this: columnist has light bulb moment, realising that Threads and Meta are the same fucking company. ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ˜ก
theguardian.com/commentisfree/

Zudo :QueerCat_Bisexual:

@fkamiah17 @lowqualityfacts what an abysmal article this is

โ€œAs we saw with the failure of Mastodonโ€ฆโ€ ๐Ÿคฆ

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@zudo @lowqualityfacts Oh, I didn't read it. The title alone was enough to wind me up.
Mastodon is such a failure that hundreds of thousands of people join every time Space Karen has a tantrum.

bazkie bumpercar

@fkamiah17 @lowqualityfacts Yeah stopped reading at "As we saw with the failure of Mastodon,"

I'm so tired of hearing that, while happily using it every day. If only these people would give it a chance, but they are apparently too addicted to Twitter or some other right wing platform.

Ah well.

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@bazkie @lowqualityfacts I'm pretty sure we're not the losers in this equation.

Don Hawkins - W7DAH

@bazkie @fkamiah17 @lowqualityfacts I suspect that they have โ€œDaddyโ€ issues, & only a billionaire daddy will do.

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@johnmackintosh @lowqualityfacts I says what I mean and I mean what I say ๐Ÿ˜‚

Paul Mullett

@fkamiah17 @lowqualityfacts Iโ€™m slightly surprised they havenโ€™t figured they could have their own instances with their own servers under their own control, in an alternative universe they value their independence and have done just that rather than feed off of Twitter, Meta, and each other

altreusโ„ข

@fkamiah17 @lowqualityfacts Ah, another "failure of mastodon" article.

Am I not where I think I am?

Hermes

@lowqualityfacts

I'm not sure whether to be flattered that I found Mastodon's interface easy and smooth, or I should be horrified at the ineptitude of the "journalists" that are left in the media, in this news age.

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@lowqualityfacts honestly, the fact that journalists and the bunch of people who just didnโ€™t want to give it a chance so they went back to Twitter ready to make Contentโ„ข about their experience tried to make themselves sound clever by describing Mastodon as so complicated almost scared me off. Itโ€™s so strange! Why do that! ๐Ÿ‘€

Black Chic with the Red Truck

@k_kwasniewska @lowqualityfacts
Iโ€™m convinced itโ€™s a literal campaign to deter people. I almost bought it too, but then some helpful soul on the birdsite posted a YouTube video explaining how to sign up and I watched it and was like- waitโ€ฆ thereโ€™s literally just one extra step of choosing an instanceโ€ฆ duhโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜…
(I am NOT in any way tech savvy.)

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@ReneeWestberry @lowqualityfacts exactly the same on my end, this is how I felt about it too! The way theyโ€™re describing it, you end up thinking itโ€™s some technical process when itโ€™s just register and go and everyone would manage!

Don Hawkins - W7DAH

@animesocialist @lowqualityfacts Exactly. Iโ€™m no computer science genius, but Linux is just about all I use these days & Mastodon seems superior to the bird-site too. Oh, I still own a Windoz 10 laptop, but it sits idle, collecting dust. And, I havenโ€™t yet deleted my bird-site account just outta curiosity for how it ends, & to annoy others still there, with Mastodon promoting Tweets, etc.

David Megginson

@donhawkins @animesocialist @lowqualityfacts I wonder how many tech journalists use an #Android device to file their stories about how hard it is to use #Linux. ๐Ÿ˜•

#journalism

Don Hawkins - W7DAH

@david_megginson @animesocialist @lowqualityfacts even if they file from their iPhones โ€ฆ BSD Unix based / derivative O/S. And if they are filing across the โ€œinter-websโ€ 95% of the top one million domains are powered by Linux, etc, etc, etc.

Anime Socialist

@donhawkins @lowqualityfacts

I have been using debian based Linux distributions for almost 10 years and they are by no meand less inconvenient than Windows. And don't get me started on apple, it is the exact opposite of convenient.

Don Hawkins - W7DAH

@animesocialist @lowqualityfacts Iโ€™m so long with Linux, Iโ€™m like the Twitter users who canโ€™t grasp Mastodon โ€ฆ fooking Windoz seems like a PITA to me these days. Linux just fooking works (my first taste / flavor was a Linux-precursor, of sorts, SCO Xenix on a 386). ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Roy Brander

@lowqualityfacts

I keep meaning to unfollow because so many of these are so dumb. But then you make it all worth it with the best facts out there.

The Great Llama :fuck_verify:

@lowqualityfacts
Going to start applying for jobs based on this. No, I don't have any coding experience, but I use Mastodon, so... ๐Ÿง

Sylva da beaver

@lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social

Yeah I really don't understand why people think they have to learn
everything about mastodon to use it

Might be because there are a lot of really smart people on here

Or maybe they hear buzzwords or the words server and instance and get really confused

idk people confuse me

Zeiros Lion

@lowqualityfacts
Didn't know my art degree counts as an advanced degree in computer science.

Black Chic with the Red Truck

@ZeirosLion
Yes! Thank goodness for my English Comp degree or I would never be able to successfully navigate Mastodon! ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…

Ben :conga_parrot:

@lowqualityfacts should start posting "Can use Mastodon" on my resume since apparently it's such an advanced skill

chrishazfun

@lowqualityfacts I should be worried that the people were supposed to rely on for keeping authority to account can't figure out something slightly more advanced than WordPress.

Kyle

@lowqualityfacts I am not a tech person or very computer savvy at all but I have had no problem navigating Mastodon and even managed an instance change.

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@Kyleric @lowqualityfacts

Counterpoint: Youโ€™re not a journalist.

prettygood
@lowqualityfacts a journalist cannot make a decision. They can only do what they're told and there's no one to do that on fedi unless you're being told to kys
Rachel ๐Ÿง›โ€โ™€๏ธ

@lowqualityfacts
Lolz.
Before I signed up here in 2022, i searched for info on how to use. I found a great youtube vid that someone took the time to make. It was easy to follow, and i was able to pin the other timelines! It was great! Recently tho, someone changed the format and made my pinned tls hard to see. Still love this place! ๐Ÿฅฐ

The1goit :v1:

@lowqualityfacts this feels more like an average quality fact.

But they probs don't understand mastodon cause of a lack of official onboarding.

Grumpy Green Troll

@lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social

Your quality is slipping upwards again, did you bump your head
๐Ÿค•?

Joachim Ziebs

@lowqualityfacts And that's why nobody buys newspapers and more.

Ben Etherington

@lowqualityfacts literally heard an NPR reporter say โ€œI tried to sign up for mastodon and Iโ€™m still not sure if I did or not.โ€ Wtf mate.

frigginGlorious โœ…

@lowqualityfacts a good friend is a comp Sci guy, a professional software engineer, who "tried mastodon but didn't get it"

When pressed for more info, it turns out he had trouble siging in... because he forgot what server he signed up at.

I don't know how to help that.

Black Chic with the Red Truck

@frigginglorious There is no help for that if he hasnโ€™t figured out how to search for the email that Mastodon sends you when you sign up telling you all that information. ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿพโ€โ™€๏ธ

Quentin

@lowqualityfacts journalist have difficulties to compete the Cuphead tutorial, don't ask too much

A_Wandering_Albatross

@lowqualityfacts These guys have lower quality facts than you ๐Ÿคฃ

๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธeisbolCards

@lowqualityfacts

Journalist 1st post after being booted from #Twitter: "Well, hello. Follow me here as this is my new online home"

* gets unbanned and quickly goes back

2nd post, two months later: "Hello, there"

* Followers: "glad you're back" :ablobsadpats:

3rd post, another two months later: "Hello, you can find me on #Threads "

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@lowqualityfacts @siegi it is probably especially difficult for journalists to understand a social tool cautiously designed to avoid reaching too many people at once

Null

@llPK@mastodon.social @lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social @siegi@tooting.ch My reaction to that is "Oh, so they'll have to go back to cultivating a readership rather than posting ever-increasing click-bait titles and takes to be noticed in the stream?"

I'm usually pretty frustrated on this topic as a lot of journalists will decry the abuses of giant social media and in the same breath, refuse to move off because the UI is a little different.

HowToPhil (Phillip R)

@llPK @lowqualityfacts @siegi
I once thought about a social media tool that only let you have a maximum of 150 "friends" based on studies showing "maximum effective tribe size" etc. People I know who work(ed) in social media hated the idea

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@howtophil @lowqualityfacts @siegi I can see the appeal of that. But still, it becomes a numbers game, doesnโ€™t it?

HowToPhil (Phillip R)

@llPK @lowqualityfacts @siegi

It's more like modeling the social spaces to fit real-life tendencies of how humans function. It appears to be hard for humans to actively track the lives of more people than that - to "care" in a meanuingful way.

Gizp

@howtophil@mastodon.social @llPK@mastodon.social @lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social @siegi@tooting.ch I fell like a lot of old niche forums reached something akin to that number in terms of active users. Coincidentally, a lot of the long time friends that I made on the internet where from that era and it makes me wonder if there's any connection to that.

jz.tusk

@lowqualityfacts

And yet:

"Unlisted has a slightly complicated behaviour pattern in the Home timeline, and this isnโ€™t officially documented for some reason. Hereโ€™s how it works:

Unlisted posts and replies from people you follow WILL appear in your Home timeline, unless they are a reply to someone you donโ€™t follow. If theyโ€™re a reply to someone you donโ€™t follow, they WILL NOT appear in your Home timeline."

jz.tusk

@jonhendry @lowqualityfacts

I can explain why I care: I've been seeing the occasional toot in my timeline (or is it notifications) that is clearly a response to another toot, but I don't and can't see what it's replying to.

And then I wonder if I'm doing the same thing, and at the same time feditips drops some info on setting visibilities. As a result I do change my default visibility, but I'm still not sure I'm doing it right .....

jz.tusk

@jonhendry @lowqualityfacts

... and that thing I posted was part of the page explaining visibility.

It's not like I give much credit to journo's saying "it's too hard". (I suspect the real reason is "my colleagues aren't there, and the audience isn't big enough.) But people who dismiss new users genuine issues aren't helping us much either.

Jonathan Hendry

@jztusk @lowqualityfacts

Yeah, I see those too sometimes, but I just chalked it up to a quirk of federation and the dissemination of posts.

Pomegranate_Stew

@lowqualityfacts
Wow. Apple Basic, Pascal, and COBOL now constitute an advanced CS degree. Who knew?!

penciledpage

@lowqualityfacts So true, and I think it's because the media can't figure out how to buy followers on here.

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@lowqualityfacts I agree that the onboarding is messier than, say, Threads, and you have to get used to the idea of picking a server (and possibly moving) and that takes knowledge... but jeez, the idea that once you're settled it'll be nothing but compiling a kernel every time you want to check your timeline...

SistaWendy

@lowqualityfacts Their only skill is pushiness, and that's tragic.

Lynne Jackier

@lowqualityfacts

I'm 66. It took a LOT more attention and learning to master the home computer in 1988. Mastodon is not "hard." It just takes attention and intention. Algorithms have made people lazy about creating their own social media community and experience.

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@YourNeighbor57 @lowqualityfacts - I think people have also heavily shifted their mindset from "computers are a tool" to "computers are magic" (they aren't).

Companies have done a good job mystifying how computers work. They've come a long way, but they're not magic.

I spend a lot of time hammering into more junior engineers, that with very rare exception, we should be able to explain plainly to customers what we're doing. It shouldn't be magic and they shouldn't have to guess.

Alex Block

@lowqualityfacts It's like their billionaire masters are fearful of a social media platform they cannot control....

Ocรฉan

@lowqualityfacts also journalists: here are 278499 steps to use Threads in Europe, you will love it

arthur.pizza

@lowqualityfacts

"I suspect thousands of other Tooters (blech!) will soon do the same and Mastodon will lay down beside all other other fossilized social media platforms and fade from existence."

~ Lance Ulanoff
Mashable, 2017

mashable.com/article/mastodon-

Robby
@art @lowqualityfacts that article is a goldmine :D

> I registered on the upstart social media platform using, as I always do, my full name: "LanceUlanoff" to protect it from potential social media identity poachers (they're everywhere).

I'm tempted to make a @LanceUlanoff@zoinks.one just to troll them, as the devious identity poacher I am ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
@art @lowqualityfacts that article is a goldmine :D

> I registered on the upstart social media platform using, as I always do, my full name: "LanceUlanoff" to protect it from potential social media identity poachers (they're everywhere).
John S. Weddington II

@lowqualityfacts I don't think journalists are OK. Someone should get them councilling on living in normal society.

olav

@lowqualityfacts
They expect to just show up in their sort of sun god robes and immediately be surrounded by a thousand naked women throwing pickles at them

Black Chic with the Red Truck

@olav ๐Ÿคฃ My favorite line in that movie! ๐Ÿฅน

olav

@ReneeWestberry
I think "In the immortal words of Socrates, 'I drank what?'" still wins, even if only by a little.

Black Chic with the Red Truck

@olav
There are just too many to really choose one.
โ€œI was HOT and I was HUNGRY!โ€ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Jhooper

@lowqualityfacts It asks a question of which server you want to create your account on. Sometimes it gives you an error if the server you connect to is not available at that moment. That's about the biggest problem during the sign up process I've seen.

arclight

@lowqualityfacts "Crucially, it lacks an algorithmic feed which directs social media consumers to my Substack"

Ferrichrome

@lowqualityfacts Iโ€™m not even that good with tech and I was able to figure out. It shouldnโ€™t be hard for the average user

Frank Inserra
@lowqualityfacts I like the Fediverse and the few instances with which I have been associated. At least with respect to those instances, I have found aspects that are unnecessarily complicated and limited. For example, the whole idea of having to upload an image to a library on the instance to post an image on your feed is limiting, as is oneโ€™s inability to have group interactions and doc libraries a la Facebook. Could be different on other instances, donโ€™t know, but I like my instance cuz itโ€™s super-local. Compared to other microblogging services, such as Twitter (and now Threads), the Fediverse is superior on many levels (community selectivity, user curation, attention to historically discriminated against minorities). Curating your own exclusive local community takes some time, and so Zuck used Instagram to bridge that issue in only a way an entrenched player could. I use all these social media platforms (except Twitter now) and see no need to be exclusive.
@lowqualityfacts I like the Fediverse and the few instances with which I have been associated. At least with respect to those instances, I have found aspects that are unnecessarily complicated and limited. For example, the whole idea of having to upload an image to a library on the instance to post an image on your feed is limiting, as is oneโ€™s inability to have group interactions and doc libraries a la Facebook. Could be different on other instances, donโ€™t know, but I like my instance cuz itโ€™s super-local....
bugbear

@lowqualityfacts please tell me someone actually said that word for word

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@lowqualityfacts I'm technically inept in every way but even I managed to sign up. The instances are not that difficult of a concept. If I can do it so can others.

ร–lbaum

@lowqualityfacts @siegi Yeah, sure. Just choose an instance. Any instance. No, not that one, itโ€™s too big. And make sure itโ€™s moderated, otherwise itโ€™s gonna be blocked by other instances. And make sure it blocks nazi instances too, for your safety. And instances that donโ€™t block Facebook, otherwise itโ€™s gonna get blocked too. But make sure the admins are not too quick on the block, because even if they change their mind, you lose your connections. >>

ร–lbaum

@lowqualityfacts @siegi Anyway, itโ€™s easy to move if you choose wrong. You just lose your posts and any conversations you had with people. But none of this matters, because the only important thing is that itโ€™s decentralised. Also, make sure you use it the way John Mastodon intended, otherwise you might get harassed. But itโ€™s with good intentions so itโ€™s not really harassment. EZPZ.

ร–lbaum

@lowqualityfacts @siegi The best advice I saw recently is not to tell your friends to join mastodon, but to tell them to join your instance, or a specific one you think theyโ€™d be at home on.

PixiePancake

@lowqualityfacts I was already in a state of hysteria. So thereโ€™s that.

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@lowqualityfacts
1) Sign up (if you canโ€™t decide instance just pick a general one)
2) make a profile
3) follow hashtags of things you are interested in and want to discuss.
4) participate and talk to people on there
5) follow people you enjoy talking too
6) understand there is no algorithm to populate yourโ€feedโ€. No following and you will have a pretty empty feed outside of the local and federation views.
7) have fun and be civil.

elle

@lowqualityfacts this I especially funny when you try to use bluesky, which currently requires you to spend several minutes muting and blocking every time you log on bc they refuse to moderate in any way, and where, if you want to get a "feed" with things you like you need to be able to code so you can program one

รngela Stella Matutina

@ElleGray @lowqualityfacts

So, indistinguishable from post-EM Twitter, right?

(I used to block on sight just about everything back there. Probably could adapt in a week or so to BS, provided my blood pressure doesn't spike too much.)

elle

@angelastella no, it's nowhere near as bad as that. Yet. And most of my muting is just people posting nudes. There's no CW and the filters don't work particularly well. I couldn't have every third post being an erect penis bc I need to be able to scroll at work and in the vicinity of kids. The rest are just constant arguing about moderation (bc the site refuses to act, so there's an uproar every 2 wks). For other reasons, I'm staying away from bluesky for now and sticking just with mastodon.

รngela Stella Matutina

@ElleGray

Filters: I suspect typical techbro bullshit: they paid for/developed in-house automatic NSFW "detectors", like Facebook back in the day.

Moderation: Two weeks between storms looks definitely not OK. Maybe most of our people are bailing out?

aethervision

@lowqualityfacts โ€œHow do I make money from this thing?โ€ Shakes cardboard box with โ€˜Mastodonโ€™ written on it in crayon. โ€œWhy is it so confusing?โ€ Starts hitting box with ruler. โ€œ Stupid Mastodon. Dance.โ€

tame

@lowqualityfacts if you know how to send an email, you know how to use mastodon

Dawid Rejowski

@lowqualityfacts

If Mastodon is hard to understand I don't get how people learned to use web browsers.

All those URLs, bars, nonconsistant design of web pages, thinking about SSL and weird padlocks, so many settings. Only technical people can use it.

Metal Mutton ๐Ÿค–๐Ÿ

@lowqualityfacts You can just tell your friends "hey would you.like to join my instance?" And you've taken care of the first step (plus choice paralysis)

billy joe bowers - Harris2024

@lowqualityfacts

The news media's version of what it's like to use Mastodon really gives you perspective on the rest of their reporting.

Kyote

@lowqualityfacts ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I love this damn account

Kote Isaev

@lowqualityfacts I see only 1 case of hysteria - "influencers" who used to fap on count of subscribers, likes, and "engagement" discover that Fediverse is not designed to be a source of profit. It is for genuine interaction and communities.

Cerhn

@lowqualityfacts I wanted to like, but then there is a whole media server on mastodon, so..journa.host

alex wojtak

@lowqualityfacts If users report that a piece of software is too difficult to use, the response should be to make that software easier to use. The response from a lot of people on Mastodon seems to be pointing at them and going "hahaha thicky thicky noposts over here can't figure it out!"

UrbanEdm

@lowqualityfacts I am convinced that these articles stem from users who view social media as a broadcast medium - a way one person can reach thousands or millions.

Mastodon is geared towards human-scale interactions, which is great for community building, but not for creating a broadcast empire. Thus it's "insanely complicated" to someone trying to use it that way.

sounds interesting

@lowqualityfacts BTW #MSM/โ€œ#journalists,โ€ you know WE know itโ€™s all BS and you cling to your billionaire-owned sites because a) you also are anti-#democracy/pro-#misinformation, elitist #whitesupremacists b) canโ€™t give up your โ€œvaluableโ€ brand/follower count (btw, we also know you know youโ€™re largely just talking to other โ€œjournalistsโ€/bots), and/or c) canโ€™t give up those lazy RTs/embeds that by now you probably even think passes for reporting. Sad.

MakerBlock

@lowqualityfacts

But... who will Mama Bird information, content, and opinions to me???

Erotic Mythology (hire me) ๐Ÿ’–

@lowqualityfacts Unfortunately, a Twitter friend repeated that last part back to me after trying Mastodon. It *is* a little more complex than your average walled garden but I had to learn how to use Twitter and Tumblr too. Just playing around a little will do the trick.

Andrew Martin

@lowqualityfacts I found the onboarding and startup process considerably more difficult than say TikTok or Threads. I know people Iโ€™d have a hard time explaining it to.

Pyrrho
@lowqualityfacts
Somehow this reminds me of this old video.
"Do not attempt to look into this yourselves. It's illegal for you to do it. We can because we're journalists".
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@lowqualityfacts I work for a University and I have emailed them to ask them to clarify their social media policy in the wake of the politicisation and security risks of using platforms owned by billionaires.
They didn't respond, so I have now embedded my request in a document that will go to all the Deans of Research across the University asking for a clear directive from senior management.
I'm just a half-time, casual worker, but I am doing my bit...

The LEGENDARY

@lowqualityfacts i have an advanced degree in being Gay does that count?

KevinFlynn :verified:

@lowqualityfacts
not being able to create a Mastodon is a low entry requirement that keeps out the right people imo

SpeakerToManagers

@lowqualityfacts
Find me a journalist with an advanced degree in computer science who agrees with this bullshit. Iโ€™ll wait โ€ฆ

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