@evan I'm a strong no. I don't need or want to know who has viewed my profile (or viewed my posts, seen a DM I've sent, etc), but if the data is available curiosity will get the better of me and I'm going to look at it anyway. I'd rather not be able to see this data so I can't be tempted to look.

@evan I actually think it depends on the network. On most social media, like Mastodon, blue sky and Threads, I'd say no. On LinkedIn I think it makes some sense to see it.

@evan Turn the question around. "Should other users of a social network platform be told that you've viewed their profiles?"

@evan Unless you try to start a phone company. They won't connect you to the network if you don't jump through their hoops.

@evan@cosocial.ca

So much better than in the years just after AT&T was broken up and you had to dial five digits to get your preferred long distance carrier.

At least it was never as bad as trying to send email over UUCP.

@evan
Oh, my account is always there 😁

https://identi.ca/jpfox

thanks Evan for these first steps to the Fediverse 🤗

@evan does it still federate? I pasted the identi.ca url into my Mastodon instance's search bar but it wasn't able to find it

@evan Thank you for starting this whole beautiful mess!

@evan @snarfed.org @nightpool

Interesting that this is more about identity than "privacy" so native to #4opens a breath of fresh air in this.

@evan only under an AGPL3+ license :)

@evan It’s an open standard. If someone isn’t allowed to implement it, then it’s not open.

It’s equivalent to putting up a billboard in a public place and questioning if everyone is allowed to read it.

@evan want to share the motivation to run this #EvanPoll?

...via a shell script that runs it in a loop

@evan Likewise, I'm sure.

@evan You're in the middle of one of those artsy-fartsy be-one-with-the-universe seminars, aren't you? ;)

Basically, if `userA@domain1` has followers `userB@domain2`, `userC@domain2`, and `userD@domain2`, and they have an activity that has `to`: `followers` and `bcc`: `userD@domain2`, and domain2 has a shared inbox, you can't deliver to the shared inbox without double-delivery to userD. domain2 can do double-delivery-detection, but that kind of sucks.

I don't know who actually wrote this but `git blame` says @cwebber added it and honestly that is some pure crystal Christine Lemmer-Webber energy if I've ever seen it.

@evan if you can easily alter this it seems to deadname @cwebber and way-less importantly gets GNU social’s name wrong.

@evan it was better in that era but not because of third-party apps. the third-party apps (Joe McAcquaintance has invited you to play Super Pirate Candy Cove Battles!) made the experience Worse

@evan #Facebook was never any good & still is rubbish

@evan Facebook has always been absolute poison

@evan

Does https://phanpy.social do what you're seeking?

@evan this wouldn’t be the job of the mastodon client, no? it’s the job of the activitypub client / mastodon server. a mastodon client would use the mastodon api for fetching conversations, and may choose to fetch from the root’s origin instead of your local server (although this bypasses your local blocks and mutes)

@evan what does "seven generations" refer to? Or should I wait for the manifesto!

@evan @ntnsndr I like, though “technology should not actively hurt us” feels a bit like a bare minimum! Surely that requirement can be raised higher, and maybe framed positively.

Also something about non-human impact would be nice, something about minimising material & energy footprint.

@evan @ritawho But the reality is the world doesn’t need *any* tech manifestos period. They’re all just techies masturbating in public and expecting praise. Maybe just focus on not enshittifying the world instead.

@pluralistic Facebook Platform did this. LinkedIn did this. Google. Twitter has been knifing its developer community for over a decade.

@evan @pluralistic I used to have an add-on that aggregated and filtered several feeds from a social media site, so for example one could just see posts with a specific keyword or hashtag.

An emergency response org in the US used it to present a true real time dashboard of all the things that were happening from its field stations across the state.

All gone now. As always the real value is in the long tail, but because that can't be turned into revenue, it doesn't matter.

@evan Wholly agree with you, that was a great Extension process proposal!

@evan It's time for ActivityPub V2?

cc @cwebber @aaronpk @torgo et al

@evan yay for you!!

@evan I'll give you 20 bucks if you let me pick the first word.

No tricks, either; I'll tell you publicly what the word is before you have to agree. But it's a binding contract, so I have to know the terms are settled before I say.

@evan THIS IS HUGE!!

We can't wait to buy a copy! 🎉