@evan it was better in that era but not because of third-party apps. the third-party apps (Joe McAcquaintance has invited you to play Super Pirate Candy Cove Battles!) made the experience Worse

@evan #Facebook was never any good & still is rubbish

@evan Facebook has always been absolute poison

@evan

Does https://phanpy.social do what you're seeking?

@evan this wouldn’t be the job of the mastodon client, no? it’s the job of the activitypub client / mastodon server. a mastodon client would use the mastodon api for fetching conversations, and may choose to fetch from the root’s origin instead of your local server (although this bypasses your local blocks and mutes)

@evan what does "seven generations" refer to? Or should I wait for the manifesto!

@evan @ntnsndr I like, though “technology should not actively hurt us” feels a bit like a bare minimum! Surely that requirement can be raised higher, and maybe framed positively.

Also something about non-human impact would be nice, something about minimising material & energy footprint.

@evan @ritawho But the reality is the world doesn’t need *any* tech manifestos period. They’re all just techies masturbating in public and expecting praise. Maybe just focus on not enshittifying the world instead.

@pluralistic Facebook Platform did this. LinkedIn did this. Google. Twitter has been knifing its developer community for over a decade.

@evan @pluralistic I used to have an add-on that aggregated and filtered several feeds from a social media site, so for example one could just see posts with a specific keyword or hashtag.

An emergency response org in the US used it to present a true real time dashboard of all the things that were happening from its field stations across the state.

All gone now. As always the real value is in the long tail, but because that can't be turned into revenue, it doesn't matter.

@evan Wholly agree with you, that was a great Extension process proposal!

@evan It's time for ActivityPub V2?

cc @cwebber @aaronpk @torgo et al

@evan yay for you!!

@evan I'll give you 20 bucks if you let me pick the first word.

No tricks, either; I'll tell you publicly what the word is before you have to agree. But it's a binding contract, so I have to know the terms are settled before I say.

@evan THIS IS HUGE!!

We can't wait to buy a copy! 🎉

@evan does it mean you will finish them ?

@evan One for fun, multiple for work and studies.

@evan Morning book, night book, book for work.

@evan Typically you have to pay for things like QA, user research, security audits, etc.

And most people don't even bother telling you when they encounter issues with your website or app, they just move on.

People really need to learn to be humble and appreciate when a stranger takes the time out of their day just to help them improve their work.

@evan F̶e̶d̶i̶v̶e̶r̶s̶e̶ developers, when someone reports a #security issue with your software, there is one and only one correct course of action…

fixed it for you

@evan@cosocial.ca an old user I banned here for being a transphobe. he sent me an email and I had to rotate the keys of all the users. the software still was not being used anywhere else. fixed the issue and acknowledged the issue

@evan

I am a strong no but only because I am sick the the back teeth of being had over by proprietary software services and they all need to shut down and do nothing, never mind start interfering with even more stuff.

Consent is applicable in more ways than one and they have been taking far too many liberties for far too long.

It's time we started 'fingering' them for a change - figuratively speaking!

Wow, this is a lot higher than I expected.

I'm a strongly agree. When proprietary software services implement open standards, it gives people a choice on what services to use.

In the case of ActivityPub, I want people in walled gardens to have access to the entire social web. I want them to see what's here, and I want them to know they can be here, too.

Thanks to everyone who replied.

@evan It would be hard to overstate what an impact connections made on identi.ca have had on my life. @smv@identi.ca denting at me about #Parabola set me on a path.

@evan happy fediversary!

You: "You know, the SolarCity guy"

Me: "Are you a ghost, did I do something wrong"

THE YEAR IS 2017

@cwebber@octodon.social : ...so in conclusion, section 7.8 is definitely going to make the CEO of Facebook Mark Zuckerberg so cuckoo crazy for ActivityPub that he will fight another billionaire in a cage in Las Vegas.

Me: What

Christine: What

Me: What

Christine: What

Me: OK let me see section 7.8 again

Jaiku was started a month before Twitter. The first federated microblogging message was sent between Twitter and Jaiku. Jaiku is where the hashtag was first used. The company was bought by Google, and the software was made Open Source and ported to Google App Engine. The code is still available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaiku

@evan just found https://notiz.blog/2010/03/05/ostatus-the-next-generation-of-openmicroblogging/

@evan @webmink Thanks for helping us start to see all those years ago what is coming so much more into focus now and will only get better, especially when identi.ca catches up with all these riotous and lovely grandchildren.

@evan

Some things I'd like to expand:

6. Documenting our experience at Cosocial making a coop, so others can replicate it.

7. Helping the AP/AS2 extension-writing process.

8. Getting the SWICG back to regular meetings.

9. Bringing https://identi.ca/ into the social web by implementing ActivityPub in pump.io.

10. Setting up a Mastodon server for my team at Open Earth Foundation.

11. Documenting the HCI research I did on making Mastodon a good way to connect with friends.

@evan Unfortunately, that's what a lot of people who come here fail to understand first. They got too used to social media and social networking as kind of a given. As a product of something external, not as a product of you and your group of friends.

> I'm here for the long run. I'm going to keep doing what I can. Thanks for doing what you're doing. I see you. Thanks.

Rekindled that old fire, huh. Thanks for what you're doing. We see you too, although for a long time, we haven't.

86% positive. That's great.

I'm a strong yes. I know that social networking can be a great way to connect with people that matter to me. I want my friends and family to be here.

I think if we want this to happen, we need to get serious about our referral features (how do you invite people you know to join the network) and onboarding (how do they get an account once they are invited).

It's pretty hard right now. If we want richer networks, it has to get easier.