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Ilya Zverev

Technically the last day to submit your @sotmeu proposal is 31st, but today is the last _weekend_ for that. And I always submit at the last moment. Two proposals — sent. One is Every Door, obviously, and another is a story of a failure.

You got time — and in two months, there will be a State of the Map Europe conference in Poland. Go on, submit a proposal and buy your tickets!

cfp.openstreetmap.org.pl/state

Ilya Zverev

I got ahold of the Copilot+ software.

Recall uses a bunch of services themed CAP - Core AI Platform. Enabled by default.

It spits constant screenshots (the product brands then “snapshots”, but they’re hooked screenshots) into the current user’s AppData as part of image storage.

The NPU processes them and extracts text, into a database file.

The database is SQLite, and you can access it as the user including programmatically. It 100% does not need physical access and can be stolen.

Kevin Beaumont

And if you didn’t believe me.. found this on TikTok.

There’s an MSFT employee in the background saying “I don’t know if the team is going to be very happy…”

They should probably be transparent about it, rather than telling BBC News you’d need to be physically at the PC to hack it (not true). Just a thought.

Ilya Zverev

Has anyone written about how textual generative AI feels strangely close to toxic masculinity in some respects? The absolute confidence in everything stated, the lack of understanding of the consequences of getting that confidence wrong for important questions, the semi-gaslighty feeling when it “corrects” itself when you call it out on something. It so often feels like talking to someone one would despise and avoid in “real life.” I’m curious if anyone did some writing on this.

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Petra van Cronenburg

@mwichary Yes, there are studies about the social and ethical impact of biased #AI #LLM #generativeAI, especially in questions of masculinism, racism or homophobia. It's a fact that the popular models are trained mainly by men (with the #SiliconValley "philosophy"***) on men dominated content. The latest is this #UNESCO study: cepis.org/unesco-study-exposes
This test became quite well-known in 2023: rio.websummit.com/blog/society

#bias #biased #GenderBias #gender #AIEthics

@mwichary Yes, there are studies about the social and ethical impact of biased #AI #LLM #generativeAI, especially in questions of masculinism, racism or homophobia. It's a fact that the popular models are trained mainly by men (with the #SiliconValley "philosophy"***) on men dominated content. The latest is this #UNESCO study: cepis.org/unesco-study-exposes
This test became quite well-known in 2023: rio.websummit.com/blog/society

Nini

@mwichary Well yeah, if there's one thing that embodies LLMs it's speaking complete fictions with the unearned confidence of a mediocre white man.

Faintdreams

@mwichary when the a large set of the conversational corpus of LLM's is taken from places like Twitter and a reddit, then their ... Flavour of discourse is the output

Ilya Zverev

So... We have trained an advanced autocomplete on reddit and stackoverlow, and now expect 100% correct answers from it?

Like, who sees the internet and thinks, oh gosh, people must have been writing 100% true factual information and useful answers here for decades.

Ilya Zverev

Both "oh no" and "well that was expected".

Interesting approach to #gdpr "data is collected on a legitimate interest basis, go argue with our support trying to get it deleted".

#facebook #meta #ai #surveillance

squaregoldfish

@zverik I said that AI training was outside the remit of what a user might reasonably expect the company to do with my data, and they opted me out.

mastodon.social/@squaregoldfis

Ilya Zverev

What a week in AI!

- Microsoft releases its biggest invasion of your privacy in decades!
- Sam Altman violates Scarlett Johansson to get her likeness for his digital parrot!
- Google UX legend Scott Jenson declares idea bankruptcy at Google and panic driven AI development because they want to lock you in faster than their competitors!

This shit is going great!

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ashwin

@deadparrot @adnan you forgot iTerm now has AI powered scripting. Shit ideas always get right to the top of the pile.

Niclas Hedhman

@deadparrot

And Seinfeld's insight; "We are Smart enough to invent AI, Dumb enough to need it, but too Stupid to figure out whether it was a good idea or not."

Ilya Zverev

Argh. I need to do by the end of the month (two weeks):

1. Every Door 5.1 with a couple bugfixes.
2. Upgrade all my OSM-based services for OAuth2.
3. Set up an MVP for a city cycle infrastructure surveying project.

How do I even manage, with one free day a week (because Saturdays are reserved for kids).

And the job is looming from above, with its core values of "hard work" and "execution" ugh

Tobias

@zverik I am interested in learning more about the city cocling project.

Ilya Zverev

iD editor offers to "fix" highway=cycleway by adding bicycle=designated.

What next, motorcar=designated on highway=motorway?..

Ilya Zverev

Slack is now using all content, including DMs, to train LLMs.

They offer a thing they're calling an "opt-out."

The opt-out (a) is only available to companies who are slack customers, not end users, and (b) doesn't actually opt-out.

When a company account holder tries to opt-out, Slack says their data will still be used to train LLMs, but the results won't be shared with other companies.

LOL no. That's not an opt-out. The way to opt-out is to stop using Slack.

slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/dat

Slack is now using all content, including DMs, to train LLMs.

They offer a thing they're calling an "opt-out."

The opt-out (a) is only available to companies who are slack customers, not end users, and (b) doesn't actually opt-out.

When a company account holder tries to opt-out, Slack says their data will still be used to train LLMs, but the results won't be shared with other companies.

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Harald

@NewtonMark it's also unclear what Slack will do with free instances since those aren't technically customers.

Deadly Headshot

@NewtonMark
I suspect this breaks EU GDPR (but not necessarily UK GDPR, sadly)...

Ilya Zverev

@djh @zverik @djh @zverik TBF Rapid is only what it is *because* of the “negative OSM community”. Facebook started just silently dumping their AI data into OSM, and bad-mouthing anyone who opposed it as “risking dooming OSM to irrelevance“.

It took *a lot* of push back from this “always negative” OSM community to get what exists now.

Ilya Zverev

Slack have decided to start training AI on enterprise customer data, including DMs, private workspaces and files. You have to have admin opt out via email. HT @Quinnypig

slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/dat

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Räucherkäse

@GossiTheDog And of course they're not explaining *how* they're going to implement those "controls".

Jigme Datse

@GossiTheDog @Quinnypig or as I've been doing for years, opt out of Slack. I'd say go with something like Jitsi/Matrix but that's not for everyone.

Ilya Zverev

TL;DR: I am looking for work as a GIS Developer.

I will be free as of June and am looking to do work that would preferably be using open source GIS tools.

My main focus of late was doing frontend, mostly using React and the ArcGIS JS API but I'm also handy with:

* MapLibre\MapBox\Lealet
* QGIS - use and instruction
* Python - Automation, Flask, PyqGIS
* GeoServer + the REST API
* SQL - mainly PostGIS and SQL Server

my email - dror.bogin@gmail.com
linkedin - linkedin.com/in/dror-bogin/

TL;DR: I am looking for work as a GIS Developer.

I will be free as of June and am looking to do work that would preferably be using open source GIS tools.

My main focus of late was doing frontend, mostly using React and the ArcGIS JS API but I'm also handy with:

* MapLibre\MapBox\Lealet
* QGIS - use and instruction
* Python - Automation, Flask, PyqGIS
* GeoServer + the REST API
* SQL - mainly PostGIS and SQL Server

Dror Bogin

ובעברית:
אני מחפש עבודה כמפתח GIS.
זמין החל מיוני ועם העדפה לעבודה בכלי קוד פתוח, אבל כמו שאפשר לראות בפוסט למעלה, מכיר גם כלים אחרים.

בפוסט למעלה קישורים למייל וללינקדאין.

Ilya Zverev

So now that we see how AI fails to accomplish anything you throw at it, unless the task is "do an AI thing with no consequences", you might understand why the @openstreetmap community has always felt negative towards bulk-importing AI-detected roads and buildings and stuff onto their hand-crafted map.

Daniel

@zverik @openstreetmap To be fair the vocal OpenStreetMap community feels negative about pretty much anything 😛

The Rapid editor and folks around it seem to benefit from AI assisted mapping, so I wouldn't say it's binary good / bad; it's more complex and nuanced as most of the time.

I also can't see much of an overlap between the current LLM hype and the previous efforts in geo to build machine learning tools and workflows.

Disclaimer: I have built such workflows before.

Ilya Zverev

So when I learned about @hotosm "fAIr" AI-assisted mapping service, I was like, uh-oh. We all know now that AI takes too much resources, is an environmental threat, and is never profitable. Apart from also being wrong. That a humanitarian org turns its employees and hardware to replicate things Microsoft and Meta failed to do... Well, won't end good.

hotosm.org/updates/fAIr_2024/

(On the other hand, their FMTM is shaping up to be better than I expected.)

Ilya Zverev

2020: Microsoft sets goal to be carbon negative by end of the decade.

2023: Microsoft's emissions are 30% higher than in 2020.

Main cause? The relentless push to meet AI demand, which requires new data centers built out of carbon-intensive steel, cement, chips.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/20

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Michał Górny

@akshatrathi, but they need that AI money to buy carbon offsets!

P J Evans

@akshatrathi
And that demand isn't driven by users, but by other companies that see it as a marketing boost.

Xavier Lowmiller

@akshatrathi what AI “demand”? I didn’t demand any of this, leave me alone with your 8 copilots -.-

Ilya Zverev

Imagine tapping a link and seeing Every Door turned into a specialized tree collecting app, with taxonomy and rendering and presets.

Imagine scanning a QR code for a task in FMTM and your ED app shows the task boundaries, limits presets to features you need to collect, and shows a short manual on the process.

Imagine overlaying a mall plan before going in for indoor mapping.

Imagine surveying features to your own PostGIS server.

That is the future of Every Door.

github.com/Zverik/every_door/i

Imagine tapping a link and seeing Every Door turned into a specialized tree collecting app, with taxonomy and rendering and presets.

Imagine scanning a QR code for a task in FMTM and your ED app shows the task boundaries, limits presets to features you need to collect, and shows a short manual on the process.

Ilya Zverev

Last Sunday Latvian OSM community (in the massive numbers of two for this event :) ) created streetview images for the Ķīpsala (literally - bale island) region of Riga.

Do you like some remote mapping for relaxation? These fresh images could allow to add a lot of detail.

mapillary.com/app/?dateFrom=20

#OpenStreetMap #Mapillary

Ilya Zverev

@richlv I had a plan to make a video explaining how to pretend you're surveying with Every Door while actually looking at Mapillary at home. Maybe somebody else could record this :)

Ilya Zverev

FYI, Cheap electric cars from China won't solve anything.
More cars, won't solve anything.
Electric cars are still cars.
Autonomous cars are still cars.
Cars won't solve anything, no matter what some rich fuck told the other rich fuck.

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