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Chris Trottier

I no longer use Big Social, but here’s my current opinion of it:

A message should be a message.

You should be able to see any message as intended. Instead, people are forced to use screenshots in order to share messages across platforms.

The fact that Meta, Google, Twitter, etc. won’t let a message be a message is an indictment of their platforms’ ongoing destruction of the open web.

The Fediverse’s promise is that—hopefully and finally—messages will be treated as messages.

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Gen X-Wing

@atomicpoet Reminds me of people sending screenshots as word documents in email.

Sky UwU

@atomicpoet This is also a bit of a problem with some fedi instances --- text shouldn't have arbitrary small limits -- you should easily be able to write an entire blog post in a message just fine.

John Harris

@atomicpoet This thread should be enshrined somehow.

Chris Trottier

People ask, “How much of Mastodon’s growth is due to bots?”

It’s not the driving force of growth but it is a factor.

Much numerical growth comes from big servers like mastodon.social and mstdn.social.

The fastest growing servers tend to be flipboard.social, me.dm, and social.vivaldi.net.

But bot-driven spam servers like ai.wiki exist, and they grew by 907 accounts during the past month. Yes, ai.wiki should be put on #Fediblock.

Good thing we can quarantine and block that domain!

ch0ccyra1n :she_her::neocat_floof_cute:

@atomicpoet

The fastest growing servers tend to be flipboard.social, me.dm, and social.vivaldi.net.

Sad

Chris Trottier

To give an idea about why ai.wiki should be put on #Fediblock, take a look at their about page where they trumpet “benefits to businesses”.

ai.wiki/about

The so-called “business” they attract are spammers.

Take a look at their local feed, and you’ll quickly surmise that this server exists for spam.

ai.wiki/public/local

Bots and spammers are here. Thankfully, we have tools to combat them.

Bam

@atomicpoet Also worth noting that while spam bots are awful, bots are not necessarily bad! Some of us enjoy Birdsite mirror bots. Photo bots do a great job of some timeline zen. AITA bot is a nice way to get some Reddit highlights. Lots of great bots are out there to improve the Mastodon experience!

Chris Trottier

According to @mastodonusercount, there are currently 10,643,452 Mastodon accounts.

At current rates, 300,000 new accounts are created per week.

One month after reaching 10 million Mastodon accounts, it's highly likely we'll reach 11 million accounts by next week.

@fediversenews

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Virginia Murr

@atomicpoet @mastodonusercount @fediversenews

Caveat:
I'm an anti-metric person after having tracked fake accts on Twitter for years. Though, I also understand that quantification is one of the easiest ways to convey success.

I added the caveat because my question is deeply genuine: how many of those accounts are real? At minimum, are the *clearly fake* nefarious (such as those you've recommended blocking before--thank you, btw!) taken out of that metric?

Greg

@atomicpoet @mastodonusercount @fediversenews

What is the MAU Monthly Average Users for Mastodon? Having an account is not useful as some account holders could be like me who may use Mastodon once a month.

Chris Trottier

Pinterest and Google might be teaming up in a “media network partnership”.

Which might mean that you’ll be seeing more Pinterest stuff in your Google searches.

To keep themselves relevant, we’re going to see Big Social announcing more “partnerships” in the future.

tipranks.com/news/analyst-prai

Chris Trottier

What a coincidence!

Dogecoin prices spiked when Twitter replaced their logo with that Shiba Inu meme.

Nope, nothing untoward is happening here.

mashable.com/article/twitter-b

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Jeff Grigg

@atomicpoet

In a more conventional interpretation of the laws, intentional overt *Market Manipulation* would be considered illegal.

hbsslaw.com/whistleblower/mark

DELETED

@atomicpoet I really don't understand why, iirc musk is currently under investigation exactly because of stuff like this... why prove regulators right

Chris Trottier

As @rom points out, Death is coming for Big Social. It’s time to move off those services.

And where to move? The Fediverse!

(On another note, I’m seeing lots of enthusiasm about the Fediverse amongst Filipino academics.)

mb.com.ph/2023/4/2/why-aren-t-

@fediversenews

Cyber Yuki

@atomicpoet @rom @fediversenews Hipster thought of the day:

I was on the fediverse before it was cool :blobcatcoffee:

DELETED

@atomicpoet @rom @fediversenews when something big dies you want to make sure your not standing where the carcass is landing...

BorderCollieGuy

@atomicpoet @rom @fediversenews Twitter is mostly shit now. I'm still there only bcuz many I follow are not on #mastodon

Chris Trottier

Finally back in Canada.

I spent two days in airports. Collectively, I was in four airports in Malaysia, South Korea, USA, and Canada.

In that time span, I went from 35°C heat to 5°C cold.

Chris Trottier

I had this realization when I was in an American airport.

American customer support systems suck. They’re disorganized, and much more work than they’re worth.

But American customer support representatives? The best in the world.

You almost want to forgive Americans’ poor systems since their reps are first class. Almost—but there’s a caveat.

The poor reps have to deal with the terrible systems, and the systems owe them a clear debt.

Heliograph

@atomicpoet that's an average day in Melbourne 😆😂

Chris Trottier

In Malaysia, I got valuable feedback about the Fediverse.

Namely, two things about Malaysians:

1. Unless you're a gamer, no one owns a desktop or laptop. However, it is common to own more than one Android smartphone.

2. P2P social networking is not feasible, and people don't trust locally-hosted servers. This is because people fear their own governments more than they fear foreign-owned corporations. It's not uncommon for people to get arrested for what's on their phones.

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Sharon Chin

@atomicpoet

2. Lowyat Forum (basically the Malaysian reddit) has been online since 2002

forum.lowyat.net

Lol, not sure about ur sources but are we talking about the same Malaysia here?

ubi

@atomicpoet When I think about the fediverse, I don't think Mastodon is the killer app for mass adoption on the Malaysian context. The most popular social media is tiktok, followed by Facebook and Instagram.

The twitter format isn't exactly popular here and most are passive users that don't use it for discussions. From my personal experience most use it because it's easy to get news updates fast and to follow viral topics. Mastodon doesn't fit the use case by design.

Chris Trottier

Fediverse.observer suddenly counts 150,112 Brighteon accounts.

Personally, I believe these are bots.

That is, if this count is accurate at all—which I doubt.

Chris Trottier

I am glad that fediverse.observer counts Brighteon separately from Mastodon because they are clearly different services.

From a UI/UX perspective, they’re nothing alike.

Steven Savage

@atomicpoet already blocked brighteon.social - what I saw already looked pretty bot/propaganda driven.

Baloo Uriza

@atomicpoet Isn't brighteon run by a right-wing dingus who got kicked off Facebook for bot trolling?

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DaltonRoad

@atomicpoet

... and people talk about the con artists that hyped up cryptocurrencies... EVERYONE knew Quibi was going to fail--- except I guess Reese Witherspoon's now ex-husband who's living in a trailer park I believe.

Gen X-Wing

@atomicpoet That dumb mashup between Netflix and Tiktok?

Chris Trottier

Yes! @TexasObserver is saved!

But this story is bigger than any one publication.

What we’ve just demonstrated:

* journalism can survive beyond Google, Meta, and Twitter
* private equity firms don’t get to decide what journalism matters
* big media conglomerates aren’t the only voices that matter

Journalists, are you seeing this? The Fediverse might be your future!

texasobserver.org/texas-observ

@fediversenews

Yes! @TexasObserver is saved!

But this story is bigger than any one publication.

What we’ve just demonstrated:

* journalism can survive beyond Google, Meta, and Twitter
* private equity firms don’t get to decide what journalism matters
* big media conglomerates aren’t the only voices that matter

Journalists, are you seeing this? The Fediverse might be your future!

Chris Trottier

A source of new Fediverse accounts is dev.brighteon.social.

46,862 were discovered during the past day.

Brighteon is known for spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories all over Facebook and Twitter, and it looks like they’re trying their hand at the Fediverse now.

I’ve looked at the accounts on that server, and the overwhelming majority look like bots. The goal seems to be spamming misinformation.

I recommend putting brighteon.social on #Fediblock.

botsin.space/@mastodon_daily_a

A source of new Fediverse accounts is dev.brighteon.social.

46,862 were discovered during the past day.

Brighteon is known for spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories all over Facebook and Twitter, and it looks like they’re trying their hand at the Fediverse now.

I’ve looked at the accounts on that server, and the overwhelming majority look like bots. The goal seems to be spamming misinformation.

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Z

@atomicpoet I'm surprised it took them this long to join Mastodon. So much easier than pandering to a billionaire manchild

ScuzzaMan

@atomicpoet

if i might inquire, can you tell me what you consider misinformation, please?

i have zero interest in anything a bot says anyway, i'm just curious. feel free to ignore, i won't take it personally.

Expert Plus 🍀

@atomicpoet jesus christ that crazy.

You guys are crazy. Calling out people in a physical world to use Fediverse?

Come on man, people can make their own choices. If they prefer #Twitter or whatever media it is, that means they prefer it and THAT'S IT!

Like, insisting people on switching to #Fediverse is a really bad idea.

If they would want, they will switch, but only if they want to do so, by themself!

Like, come on, let's make give people right to make their own choices...

Chris Trottier

The greatest story about social media. I don't think it gets better.

In November 2022, @TexasObserver became one of the first newspapers to start their own Mastodon server.

Unlike most newspapers, @TexasObserver operates as a non-profit.

This week, the non-profit’s board of directors voted to disband @TexasObserver.

But within 48 hours, people have given $250,000 so it can continue to exist.

gofundme.com/f/laid-off-texas-

@fediversenews

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Matthieu Weber 🇫🇷/🇫🇮

@atomicpoet @TexasObserver @fediversenews
This is a heartwarming story. But I don't understand how the newspaper could collect enough funds through crowdfunding, but not through reader subscriptions (I imagine it's a regular paper, to which you can subscribe, right?)

In other words, why are supporters willing to make donations, but not subscribe?

Michael Wray

@atomicpoet @TexasObserver @fediversenews I don't love the tone of the board's apology and I like Ms. Holmes's statement even less. Both feel very much like "yeah we are sorry but look we fundraised and fixed it" when to my understanding the fundraising had nothing to do with the board.

Chris Trottier

To everyone trying to police what I write about:

Block me or I’ll block you :thinkerguns:

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Carolyn

@atomicpoet LOL. Filters, mutes and blocks, so many ways for folk to choose what they want to exclude from their feeds, but some still want to put the burden of their mindsets on others.

FeralRobots

@atomicpoet this sounds a bit like my mother but if a lot of people are trying to police your speech, at least it means a lot of people are moved by what you're writing about.

Tony the Mechanic

@atomicpoet I say this every other day, I think. No Masto Cops.

Chris Trottier

Let's review just some of what we've learned about Twitter within the past 24 hours:

1. VIPs have been privileged with prioritization
2. Unpaid accounts won’t be visible on the default “For You” Page
3. Unpaid account can’t vote in polls

Twitter is no longer a social media service. It’s a mass media service.

“Social” implies bi-directional communication whereas “mass” is one way.

Twitter clearly desires to be a one way communications service. As social media, it is dead.

Let's review just some of what we've learned about Twitter within the past 24 hours:

1. VIPs have been privileged with prioritization
2. Unpaid accounts won’t be visible on the default “For You” Page
3. Unpaid account can’t vote in polls

Twitter is no longer a social media service. It’s a mass media service.

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violetmaze

@atomicpoet I'm still getting unpaid accounts when twitter switch me to 'For You'..obviously I switch back to 'Following' ASAP when I've realised!

Junk Muffler

@atomicpoet
Wow. I wasn't aware of any of this. Leaving Twitter was a net positive in my life.

I've now spent enough time on the Fediverse that I'm convinced it's the future of the Internet, and I'm all in.

Chris Trottier

🎧 PODCAST ALERT 🎧

@Gargron just got featured on Decoder with Nilay Patel, and the interview is incredibly educational.

It gives a brief history of Mastodon, and offer clues about where it might go next.

Here’s the transcript: theverge.com/23658648/mastodon

@fediversenews

Bob Starr

@atomicpoet @Gargron @fediversenews It was a great episode! Not only because of the Mastodon discussion but for also being a rare, hopeful vision of making the internet better. I also caught the comment Nilay made about being on Mastodon, wish he confirmed his user name.

Abdulla77

@atomicpoet @Gargron @fediversenews .. great episode. Looking forward to new features like Groups. Was hoping to hear a feature like Twitter Spaces.. one day perhaps.

Chris Trottier

For the past 6 hours, there’s been 2,000+ Mastodon account creations per hour.

This hasn’t happened since December 2022.

@mmasnick predicted that Elon Musk’s new Twitter Blue policies would result in another Mastodon migration, and it looks like he’s right.

Once Twitter effectively becomes “pay to play”, Mastodon suddenly becomes more appealing.

mastodon.social/@mastodonuserc

@fediversenews

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Simon 🥧 man 🥥🌴 🇺🇸

@atomicpoet I see posts from another Mastodon statistics account that puts user count in the 6M range. Any idea why there's a difference?

Peculiar Julia

@atomicpoet
Twitter is now pointless unless you actually enjoy screaming into the void or find a link to a funny thread via other media @mmasnick @fediversenews

Chris Trottier

Nowadays, it seems as though Big Social’s value is tied to impressions. There’s numerous problems with this:

1. What counts as an impression? And why is this measurement trustworthy?

2. Why are so much impressions passive? On Twitter, why — despite millions of views — are so few people willing to like, comment or retweet?

3. If lurkers are Big Social’s most treasured audience, to what end and for what purpose?

Much of social media analytics is bullshit, but impressions are even more so.

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lakelady

@atomicpoet same end and purpose as eyeballs watching TV. Impressions are passive because not everyone cares to engage/comment. I don't think this is anything new. Think how few ever bothered to write a letter to the local paper - most just read it. Doesn't mean it wasn't valuable.

CheckingInOcassionally

@atomicpoet
"... Big Social’s value is tied to impressions."
"Impressions" Not sure what you mean.
I worry that my experience on a very old photo sharing site may be affecting my use of this site.
In the other site, a bot infested swamp, I'd get a message; "Fantastic shot. Great Work. Congratulations" sent by someone's bot, to give an impression of interest, to lure me to look at their page. Once, I got such a note, yet the photo view-count was still at zero!
An impression, sent thru the site

Chris Trottier

Unlike Twitter, this Mastodon poll is free.

Anonymous poll

Poll

Yay!
359
94.7%
Nay!
20
5.3%
379 people voted.
Voting ended 29 Mar 2023 at 11:12.
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Maria Langer | 🛥️ 📝 🎬🚁

@atomicpoet

Jeez. Is the Space Karen charging for polls now?

Has he tried looking for loose change under sofa cushions?

ITX Mike

@atomicpoet Absolutely blows me away Elmo is so clueless. I mean - everyone hated the For You tab anyway. But it'll drive all the influencers away as they rebel against having to pay for access. It'll ruin the platform's reach as people silo more than they were. I mean, just light the $44 Billion on fire and enjoy a beer with it. Why go through so much public humiliation?

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