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Chris Trottier

For the past 6 hours, there’s been 2,000+ Mastodon account creations per hour.

This hasn’t happened since December 2022.

@mmasnick predicted that Elon Musk’s new Twitter Blue policies would result in another Mastodon migration, and it looks like he’s right.

Once Twitter effectively becomes “pay to play”, Mastodon suddenly becomes more appealing.

mastodon.social/@mastodonuserc

@fediversenews

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Meow.tar.gz :verified:

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews Because who in their "right" mind would pay to see right-wing extremist rubbish!?

𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews
Mastodon has always been pay to play. If not the end user, then the admins are footing the bill. Support your servers.

Chris Trottier

@moliver Paying for server uptime is not the same—and you know it!

Mastodon isn’t just free and open source, it comes with an AGPL license.

I can run Mastodon on my own hardware—for free. And many do just that.

But should you opt to pay for Mastodon, there’s a big difference between $8 to run your own server and $8 to be visible on Twitter.

𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿

@atomicpoet
There is always a cost involved for someone, and you know it.

Chris Trottier

@moliver Is this the part where you say “the Internet isn’t free”? Because everyone with a smartphone knows this.

The point is that Mastodon itself is free, both in the sense of “free as in beer” and “free as in freedom”.

I can download Mastodon, run it on my own hardware, and pay nothing except the price of bandwidth.

Can I download Twitter and run it on my hardware (legally)?

Olav

@atomicpoet
@moliver managed hosting is so cheap that anything under 500 users it's hard to even do the math. At 100 users, everyone pitches in $0.25/months maybe a little more if you want to buy the mods a latte
Yes, not free. But a smallish instance is cheap enough for anyone with a little savvy that it's not worth the effort to ask for donations

Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I haven’t noticed the influx of new people like I did in November/December, but maybe that was more of a function of being part of the inflow myself. I am hopeful we will start to see more “official” accounts come online. A lot of companies and public institutions are going to balk at having to pay if they want visibility!

Rob Bos

@chris @atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

Speaking personally, it's shocking how much resistance my workplace puts up toward this kind of small expense, while barely batting an eye at, eg, software licensing in the tens of thousands.

Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸

@rbos @atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews Oh totally. I saw it while on City Council too. We would bicker about $100 for something but wouldn’t bat an eye at a million dollars. I think it is part of the human condition to haggle. And you can’t haggle as easily over a huge sum for a big identifiable purpose.

Rob Bos

@chris @atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

Bikeshed problem, I suppose. Hard to have an opinion about the nuclear plant, but you can sure as heck have an opinion about what colour the bikeshed should be.

Wesley Cook ⚡🚲

@chris @atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews When people create a new account their reach is fairly limited until they build some followers so that's one thing to keep in mind.

I have been noticing quite a few accounts from new people joining though.

(My account looks brand new but I've been here since October or November)

myrmepropagandist

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

I know a few people who have gave out at last with this recent announcement. But, also a lot of friends are annoyed they keep seeing tweets from republican pols and pundits that they don't follow--

Todd Vierling :verifiedenby:

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews
It's not just the new Blue policies. There's also this which finally led many people I know to jump ship:

mastodon.ar.al/@aral/110101186

TobiWanKenobi

@atomicpoet

No wonder. At this rate, you will have to pay just to fend off cryptobros, elmo-bootlickers, fascists, putintrolls, and other right-wing propaganda retards.

Twitter used to be interesting because it offered an alternative to FB back in the days, which allowed it to create a multi-varied fauna of various groups talking about all sorts of topics while a moderation team checked for proper conduct.

Nowadays that's all gone because some billionaire baby wanted to have a sandbox to dig holes and act like the boss of the sandbox.

The platform was virtually dead the second Elmo got involved in how things are run. /shrug

@mmasnick @fediversenews

@atomicpoet

No wonder. At this rate, you will have to pay just to fend off cryptobros, elmo-bootlickers, fascists, putintrolls, and other right-wing propaganda retards.

Twitter used to be interesting because it offered an alternative to FB back in the days, which allowed it to create a multi-varied fauna of various groups talking about all sorts of topics while a moderation team checked for proper conduct.

Jamie Mason

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews just migrated over from twitter, for this reason..

Jamie

Virginia S. O'Possum

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews And now is a good time to remind newcomers to donate to support their host instance.

dr 🛠️🛰️📡🎧:blobfoxcomputer:

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I love these graphs but could we please have colors that make sense? The top two are nearly indistinguishable.

Chris Trottier

@davidr I don’t make the graphs. You should bring it up with whoever makes @mastodonusercount.

MinnesotaJoe

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I finally ended up deleting the remaining two tweets on my account (having to do with a loved one’s passing), turned on Privacy, logged out, and deleted the app today. I have zero interest in being on a site where only Twitter Blue users can engage in discourse.

m3t00🌎

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews
check out profiles directory and check "New arrivals" mine looks like a bunch of automated account creations. "This account is a replica from Twitter. Its author can't see your replies. If you find this service useful, please consider supporting us via our Patreon."
mstdn.party/directory

Chris Trottier

@m3t00 @mmasnick @fediversenews I’ve looked at the sign-ups and I’m not seeing what you’re seeing.

m3t00🌎

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews
Haven't checked new arrivals before the last couple days. Wonder of they scue the counts much

Joost

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

Maybe a dumb question but what are those huge spikes in the "toots per hour" line about?

Laukidh :ablobcool:

@atomicpoet @mmasnick

also, Elon boosted some conspiracy theories targeting trans people… which is basically his MO since buying the place; even removed the rule against it.

(Sorry for sending this multiple times; trying not to be automatically boosted)

Bob

@atomicpoet But the key to maintaining this momentum will be providing those new arrivals with the tools and features that they have come to expect from microblogging.

Since there is so much resistance to a general search and the ability to quote-toot, I'm not sure that the momentum will persist.

As much as it pains the die-hard purists, maybe adding those features to make this place feel like home to the newcomers would be a good idea.

ajn142

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews not to mention the absolutely abhorrent transphobia and right wing agitation from the Twit-in-Chief. h/t @aral

mastodon.ar.al/@aral/110101186

Joe Original

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews Mastodon will grow incrementally, while the other platform will become redundant and wither away.

Staid Winnow

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

How permanent are these migrations? Like the last one around when Musk took over, what was the retention rate then?

Chris Trottier

@staidwinnow @mmasnick @fediversenews When Musk took over, peak MAUs was 2.5M. Now it sits at 1.3M. I’d say we’ve done pretty well for ourselves.

Wayne’s The Name!!!😁

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews as long as people aren't just using this as a bargainIng chip for Elmo.

Kellie

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I think it has a ton to do with TT and neta as well. Folks pissed at meta regarding their spending money to brainwash congress with lobbyists has urged many of us to delete our accounts and head elsewhere.

Bigger Insights

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews It is concerning what they're doing. Our interpretation of it is that if you don't pay, your account isn't going to see the light of day. They are of course free to do what they want, so hopefully this trend continues and we can get more people on Mastodon.

Lady Artemis

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

Is that 4500 instances and less than 2500 posts an hour? I wonder how many instances are silent for long bouts of time.

Stephanie 🎀

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I’ll never pay for Twitter, so this gradual pay-to-play implementation is a good Twitter habit breaker.

LucyWildboots 🏳️‍🌈

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews Is anyone doing a health check on the smaller instance owners?

LittleTownJane

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I had 2 Twitter accounts. One is deactivated and will go away when its time is up. One is signed out and the app deleted. I had been signing in to check in with a couple of journalists, but have decided to stop.

Dioramic Life

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

Are there any statistics on Mastodon server shutdowns? Since the presumptive reason for exodus is end user preference for free service, it might be interesting to know how sustainable that model is in the long term.

Matisyahu 🏳️‍🌈✡️🌹🚆🚂🥑🇺🇦

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I think when Elon said "freedom of speech not freedom to reach" that many stayed on Twitter in the belief that there would still be some normality but now they've realised there is a two tier system where, unless they're on Twitter blue they might as well not exist.

Side note: For me, I would sooner donate to the instance I am on than paying for Twitter Blue so that some billionaire can make their interest payments.

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@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews twitter is kinda fucked up. It's EA of social media

the nathan

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews downloaded when I saw the iOS update adding support for this app in iMessage. It looked interesting 🙂

Riku Mattila

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews Will be interesting to see if #Bluesky will have any role. Their progress seems to be lagging badly.

Andrew Glisson

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews I left because I got fed up watching Musk mistreat the Twitter employees who actually keep the site running.

RawLawDog

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews it’s what brought me here. I was intimidated by the signup process before actually trying it. It was easy. He’s wrecked the feed, stifled voices, amplified the insane ones, now it’s the fake blue badges that will dominate over there. Hopefully that will be its death knell.

Al

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews just kinda sad that it is more about the personal cost than the Nazis but well

si_irini

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

I'm just not so sure we all want these Twitter trolls with us.🤔
I'm on both platforms for different reasons.
I don't want this negative Twitter trolls here!

I wrote This for the negative behavior on Twitter…😁

.

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews never underestimate the power of top tier YouTubers..
I’m here from a tweet asking them to come here .. first thought was “What’s a Mastadon?”
Signed up immediately..

TAI

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews@venera.socialSadly, it seems this is what mastodon is going to rely on. Twitters demise rather than offering something better. It's like former twitter users counting on hitting hard ground when they fall from the sky. How about listening to what they want, they miss?

Andy Randall 🇺🇦

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews @matthewskelton a few million more and then once they’re locked in and twitter is dead, we can implement the dastardly “pay to play” plan for Mastodon. *evil laugh*

Allen 是個臺灣 vTuber

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews

新的推特遷徙潮感覺又要來惹
上次成功推進了 Mastodon 用戶突破五百萬
前幾天默默地也突破千萬了
這次又會衝到哪裡去呢

Paolo Amoroso

@atomicpoet Although the data do show an increase in new Mastodon accounts, over the past couple of months activity in my feed has decreased significantly, almost to pre-Elon Twitter. These new users seem pretty quiet.

John Theodore

@atomicpoet @mmasnick @fediversenews definitely motivated me to kick the bird app and actively seek alternatives

Simon 🥧 man 🥥🌴 🇺🇸

@atomicpoet I see posts from another Mastodon statistics account that puts user count in the 6M range. Any idea why there's a difference?

Peculiar Julia

@atomicpoet
Twitter is now pointless unless you actually enjoy screaming into the void or find a link to a funny thread via other media @mmasnick @fediversenews

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