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Chris Trottier

I had this realization when I was in an American airport.

American customer support systems suck. They’re disorganized, and much more work than they’re worth.

But American customer support representatives? The best in the world.

You almost want to forgive Americans’ poor systems since their reps are first class. Almost—but there’s a caveat.

The poor reps have to deal with the terrible systems, and the systems owe them a clear debt.

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Fuzzysteve

@atomicpoet I just feel sympathy for them, for some of the people they have to deal with. Sure, _most_ are fine, but there are some real assholes out there.

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@atomicpoet the "terrible systems" didn't will themselves into existence. they were designed by humans in (probably) Ithaca

Grissallia

@atomicpoet I think part of the problem is a chicken-and-egg situation. Shitty systems, good customer service that compensates for the shitty systems, means no need to fix the shitty systems.

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@atomicpoet

I find it depends on the industry, and also where in the country you are.

Erik Ableson

@atomicpoet I do wonder if the inability to perceive the impact of sub-optimal (being polite here) systems and structures is a human trait or more specifically a western cultural trait

Ben Curthoys

@atomicpoet From a distance it really seems like the US economy is built around finding different ways of reinventing slavery, or at least making people work like slaves.

From the lack of employment protection to having healthcare tied to continued employment to forced labour of prisoners (and the consequent bribery and lobbying of judges and politicians to ensure a continual supply of prisoner slaves), it's all about creating a class of people who have to work 3 jobs to survive and can't afford to ever say no.

Which reminds me that a partial answer to "Why didn't the Romans have an Industrial Revolution" is "because they had slaves"; there's no need to invent steam power or labour saving devices when you can just throw more slaves at the problem; slavery is the enemy of technological innovation. It's easier to hire some desperate customer support representatives than improve the helpdesk system.

It really doesn't seem like a healthy or sustainable way of running things.

@atomicpoet From a distance it really seems like the US economy is built around finding different ways of reinventing slavery, or at least making people work like slaves.

From the lack of employment protection to having healthcare tied to continued employment to forced labour of prisoners (and the consequent bribery and lobbying of judges and politicians to ensure a continual supply of prisoner slaves), it's all about creating a class of people who have to work 3 jobs to survive and can't afford to ever say no.

Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@atomicpoet This is very true. Whenever we visit the, states we notice how customer service reps accross the board are superior. I think they need systems that authorize them to make decisions for a better experience. Example: first trip to Disneyland a rep helped my partner get over anxiety about a ride, identified it was her first time in the park and gifted the entire family fast passes. That rep was empowered and it enhanced our experience.

Gen X-Wing

@atomicpoet My biggest jump was -20F to 80F in one flight. It was weird.

pgaylor2013

@atomicpoet yes. Fully agree. Customer service is always important.

Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

@atomicpoet Definitely didn't expect the bad systems thing - which countries had the best systems, in your experience?

Chris Trottier

@liztai Japan and South Korea have the best customer support systems that I’ve encountered.

Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

@atomicpoet Oh yes, they do have that rep for service! We even consider their electronics as high quality

Gorgeous na Shock!

@atomicpoet I think about this constantly. We discipline our workforce into servility by making them desperate with brutal management practices, and then limit them to policies/options offered by a computer to make sure that customer satisfaction is their problem and doesn't affect the bottom line.

"A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision..." was outdated the moment a capitalist took the premise literally.

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