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CatSalad🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :blobcatrainbow:

Google announced that starting in June 2024, ad blockers such as uBlock Origin #uBO will be disabled in Chrome 127 and later with the rollout of Manifest V3 (#Mv3).

The new #Chrome manifest will prevent using custom filters and stops on demand updates of blocklist. Only #Google authorized updates to browser extension will be allowed in the future, which mean an automatic win for Google in their battle to stop YouTube #AdBlockers .

#ManifestV3 is deceitful and threatening to your privacy, and now is a good time to switch to #Firefox (@mozilla) and/or #TorBrowser (@torproject) if you haven't done so already!

EFF (@eff) on Google’s Manifest V3:

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⚠️⁠eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chro
⚠️⁠eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/goog

Chrome Manifest V3 Transition Timeline (2023-11-16)

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🚩⁠developer.chrome.com/blog/resu

EDIT for clarification: MV3 in Chrome will still allow some ad blocking extensions, but will severely limit their blocking ability and even restricts pre-set filters to 50 MAX.

17 Nov 2023 at 13:36 | Open on infosec.exchange
237 comments
lj·rk

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff The second paragraph is of particular importance since that also explains why AdGuard is supporting it (see Google's announcement) and the "wider ad blocking community" (i.e., all the bullshit that's not the one true blocker aka uBO) is okay with it. They sell ad blockers and lists as a product. They're okay with not blocking everything (like YT), especially if noone else can do it anymore because the competition (uBO) is sidelined.

This push is not against ad blockers actually, it's against effective ad blockers, particularly uBO.

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff The second paragraph is of particular importance since that also explains why AdGuard is supporting it (see Google's announcement) and the "wider ad blocking community" (i.e., all the bullshit that's not the one true blocker aka uBO) is okay with it. They sell ad blockers and lists as a product. They're okay with not blocking everything (like YT), especially if noone else can do it anymore because the competition (uBO) is sidelined.

17 Nov 2023 at 13:52 | Open on todon.eu
littletree

@ljrk @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

This business model reminds me of Adblock Plus with their "acceptable ads". The difference here is of course that Google owns major ads companies and those will be the "acceptable" ads.

Clever product managers, very clever! Now, you all had your moment - let's all use Firefox/Brave :)

17 Nov 2023 at 20:26 | Open on mstdn.social
solo

@littletree @ljrk @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff brave is kinda cringe tbh

their CEO has a history of being anti-lgbtq, brave heavily supports crypto shit, and they've previously had "scandals" with whitelisting facebook trackers, as well as injecting affiliate links into the url bar

17 Nov 2023 at 23:35 | Open on tech.lgbt
mathew

@ljrk @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff "They're okay with not blocking everything (like YT)"

The problem with that theory is that AdGuard blocks YouTube ads. It also uses EasyList-syntax blocklists just like uBlock Origin does. In fact, uBlock Origin's wiki points to AdGuard's documentation as a source of information on writing blocking rules.

The only thing I've found that AdBlock don't want to block is paywalls (presumably because of the DMCA), so I just subscribe to a set of community-maintained paywall removal rules in standard format.

People should definitely switch from Chrome to Firefox, though. Google's sleazy attempt to sell user tracking in the browser as "ad privacy" is enough reason for that.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/0

@ljrk @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff "They're okay with not blocking everything (like YT)"

The problem with that theory is that AdGuard blocks YouTube ads. It also uses EasyList-syntax blocklists just like uBlock Origin does. In fact, uBlock Origin's wiki points to AdGuard's documentation as a source of information on writing blocking rules.

18 Nov 2023 at 3:06 | Open on universeodon.com
Simon Dückert

@mathew @ljrk @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Time to say goodbye to Chrome. Is Chromium also affected?

18 Nov 2023 at 7:18 | Open on chaos.social
lj·rk

@mathew @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Yes, they currently do block it but they don't have much of an incentive to do so and it takes a lot of resources to keep that up to date. Right now they *have to* try blocking it to keep up with the competition.

If, with MV3, the lists have to be bundled and ack'ed by Google, there's great likelihood that this will die first. Either because the filter won't be ack'ed or because YT just updates their stuff too frequently.

Suddenly, not blocking YT becomes the norm and is considered "good enough". Much more of a comfortable position for AdGuard.

And yes, since the people around AdGuard invented the filter syntax *back then*, that's still the point of truth for the syntax. However, due to this standard, people using uBlock can also import AdGuard lists etc. With user filter import gone this feature goes away as well...

@mathew @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Yes, they currently do block it but they don't have much of an incentive to do so and it takes a lot of resources to keep that up to date. Right now they *have to* try blocking it to keep up with the competition.

If, with MV3, the lists have to be bundled and ack'ed by Google, there's great likelihood that this will die first. Either because the filter won't be ack'ed or because YT just updates their stuff too frequently.

18 Nov 2023 at 10:15 | Open on todon.eu
CatSalad🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :blobcatrainbow:
Mikko Tuumanen

@catsalad @mozilla But where is the download link to get Firefox apk? I don't want Google Play in my phone.

17 Nov 2023 at 19:37 | Open on mastodon.ellipsis.fi
Virtue signal 💉💉💉🇺🇸 🇺🇦

@catsalad Don't forget Firefox Focus for phones/mobile devices. Using Focus is like having an ad blocker pre-installed and the browser privacy settings automatically set to maximum.

17 Nov 2023 at 20:06 | Open on mastodon.social
MsDropbear [infosec] 🐨♀🌈:archlinux: :kde: :floorp: :thunderbird:🦘:vegan:​
Arsimael Inshan

@catsalad Mozilla is not an alternative. Sadly.
They missed their opportunity and became a cheap Chrome copy.
Also... No PWA, and permanent active backdoor.

18 Nov 2023 at 9:14 | Open on social.khajiit.de
BentiGorlich

@Arsimael
@catsalad
No PWA is just not true and I don't know what you mean by 'became a cheap chrome copy' when literally every other browser (excluding safari) literally **is** chrome

18 Nov 2023 at 9:48 | Open on wehavecookies.social
Arsimael Inshan

@BentiGorlich @catsalad last time I checked, FF wasn't able to do PWA. And I'm talking about native. Not with some third party stuff.
And no everything else isn't "chrome" it's webkit/blink based. Chrome is also just one product which comes from chromium. Like dozens others.
Don't get me wrong. Google is cancer and Googles influence on Chromium is cancer. But Chrome is not the root of everything.

Oh, and BTW, Safari is also using Webkit.

Currently, "use Mozilla instead of chrome" is nothing more than "Use horseshit instead of bullshit".
And why is Mozilla a cheap copy of chrome? Because Chrome gets a new feature, and Mozilla copies it. Starting with their versioning madness, continuing with their backdoors.

@BentiGorlich @catsalad last time I checked, FF wasn't able to do PWA. And I'm talking about native. Not with some third party stuff.
And no everything else isn't "chrome" it's webkit/blink based. Chrome is also just one product which comes from chromium. Like dozens others.
Don't get me wrong. Google is cancer and Googles influence on Chromium is cancer. But Chrome is not the root of everything.

18 Nov 2023 at 11:15 | Open on social.khajiit.de
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Arsimael Inshan

@silo_bear @catsalad Dude, this isn't Twitter. If you challenge someone's opinion, you should give a reason or explain yourself.

18 Nov 2023 at 17:54 | Open on social.khajiit.de
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@Arsimael @catsalad
Firefox can be configured for total privacy.
Chromium and chrome cannot.
Simple as.

18 Nov 2023 at 17:55 | Open on mindly.social
Arsimael Inshan

@silo_bear @catsalad And how does this void my comment? Just because FF is better at one thing (which it isn't, search for Firefox Normandy), doesn't mean it's not a shirty product. Firefox still has no PWA and copies Features from Chrome in a bad way.

18 Nov 2023 at 17:58 | Open on social.khajiit.de
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@Arsimael @catsalad
Well that's like, your opinion man. My opinion is decided by metrics.

18 Nov 2023 at 17:58 | Open on mindly.social
Arsimael Inshan

@silo_bear @catsalad which metrics? The Metrics which state that Mozilla has a more and more declining userbase?
I know you can understand German, so here's a short read for you:
it-native.de/mozilla-what-the-

It's from 2020. And sadly, it didn't change much since then. Mozilla has just even less users.

18 Nov 2023 at 18:11 | Open on social.khajiit.de
Kapis✌

@catsalad moving to #firefox from #chromium was the best decision I did recently.

18 Nov 2023 at 14:36 | Open on social.anartist.org
Voron
2xfo

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

I think the first three paragraphs are trying to show us the difference between security and privacy. Google says they want to help you with privacy by keeping your data out of unauthorized hands but what they mean is they want to improve Google data security by making sure no one else can make money with the data they took from you.

17 Nov 2023 at 14:11 | Open on infosec.exchange
Uwe Schwarz ッ�

@catsalad that first sentence is quite misleading, they only announced to enforce #Mv3. The result might be the same, but they didn't announce to disable ad blockers, they changed the rules for plugins and therefore ad blockers.

Again: everything else is true and correct, just the headline is not quite right.

17 Nov 2023 at 14:18 | Open on infosec.exchange
ikanreed

@e38383 Explaining the direct implications of policy changes should be done and is not misleading.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:11 | Open on mastodon.social
Uwe Schwarz ッ�

@ikanreed the implication is that some plugins won’t work anymore, among them are ad blockers. Only mentioning ad blockers is IMO misleading.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:36 | Open on infosec.exchange
pacanukeha❎

@e38383 @ikanreed except that it is widely believed to be the case that the changes are intended to target ABs and that any generic wording is misleading

17 Nov 2023 at 16:40 | Open on mstdn.ca
flere-imsaho
BashStKid

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Will this affect every Chromium browser or just Chrome?

17 Nov 2023 at 14:18 | Open on mastodon.online
Zilla
Ertain

@catsalad Looks like Google has finally made their big push on stopping ad blockers.

17 Nov 2023 at 14:50 | Open on mast.linuxgamecast.com
Piousunyn

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
Been using DuckDuckGo in Firefox and it seems to work well.

17 Nov 2023 at 14:50 | Open on universeodon.com
Brahn

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

Browsers I'm on the fence about:
- arc
- Orion
- safari
- torbrowser

Browsers that are dead to me:
- chrome(mium)
- edge
- brave
- opera
- Vivaldi
- ddg
- wavebox
- rambox
- sigmaos

My issues with Firefox are apparently swallowable since it's the only browser I can sync with Android.

Doesn't mean it's a better browser, just the only survivor of a venn diagram of functionality.

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

Browsers I'm on the fence about:
- arc
- Orion
- safari
- torbrowser

Browsers that are dead to me:
- chrome(mium)
- edge
- brave
- opera
- Vivaldi
- ddg
- wavebox
- rambox
- sigmaos

My issues with Firefox are apparently swallowable since it's the only browser I can sync with Android.

17 Nov 2023 at 14:57 | Open on hachyderm.io
Piotr Kotnis

@Brahn Ars is a great browser. With tabs located in the sidebar, Little Arc, split-screen (just to name a few) - it really does improve working in the web.

It's a shame if might get affected by this Chromium change too :(

17 Nov 2023 at 17:06 | Open on 101010.pl
Brahn

@harmag they committed to not implementing manifest v3, you're safe for now!

17 Nov 2023 at 19:38 | Open on hachyderm.io
Taggart :donor:

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff It should be mentioned that, for users who must use Chrome, there is a MV3-compliant version of uBlock Origin, called uBlock Origin Lite: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh

17 Nov 2023 at 14:58 | Open on infosec.town
lewis

@catsalad@infosec.exchange Does this affect all Chromium-based browsers, or is it Google specific? All the articles I've seen reference Chrome specifically

Edit: Nevermind, I missed what Manifest v3 actually was. Looks like it impacts any Chromium browser that wants to install Chrome extensions.

17 Nov 2023 at 15:04 | Open on social.lewisdale.dev
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@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Somebody posted about this in here recently. This may be a good way of bypassing google to still get the same content.

freetubeapp.io/

17 Nov 2023 at 15:10 | Open on lgbtqia.space
Jud

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Will be interesting to see what Vivaldi does about this.

17 Nov 2023 at 15:13 | Open on mstdn.science
Marek Marecki

@catsalad IT won't be win for google, if everone just stop using chrome.

17 Nov 2023 at 15:14 | Open on pol.social
Mike Smale
Giovanni Campagna

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff all mostly true, but it's also the 3rd or 4th time they announced a timeline for MV3. It used to be incredibly buggy, and $5 says some really important extension still on Mv2 will delay the transition again.

17 Nov 2023 at 15:31 | Open on mastodon.social
Ann K.
Sebbe
ren 🏳️‍🌈 (a they/them)

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff @lisamelton made the painful process of switching to Safari after YEARS on Chrome recently. Been a journey though! Netscape, Mozilla/Firefox, IE, Chrome… It sucks relogging into stuff, sorting bookmarks (safari does it so differently), etc, but it was worth it. Apple is not in the browser business, so hopefully enshittification stays at bay.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:00 | Open on mstdn.social
Kevin Karhan :verified:

@renwillis @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff @lisamelton *presses X for doubt*

Due to these issues I'd recommend syncing #Bookmarks with @nextcloud and Logins with #Enpass because that works on everything.

I just stuck with #Firefox because everything epse is either #Enshittified and/or not #CrossPlatform & #FLOSS ...

17 Nov 2023 at 19:42 | Open on mstdn.social
ren 🏳️‍🌈 (a they/them)

@kkarhan @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff @lisamelton @nextcloud passwords were with 1password, it’s just the process of re-logging in that sucks.

bookmarks, safari presents them very different and lots of my chrome bookmarks went back YEARS. So - exported them as a single html file, uploaded that to iCloud, and saved that file as a Safari bookmark lol!

17 Nov 2023 at 22:01 | Open on mstdn.social
Mary Hilton for Harris

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff And that is why I use Firefox only. Chrome is malware, plain and simple.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:03 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org
Jake Harrison
KBSez ✅
tertzertgsss
Nihl L'Amas

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff "Great question! Actually, 'Dont' was the name of my sled."
17 Nov 2023 at 16:15 | Open on mastodon.social
AskPippa🇨🇦

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Another reason I'm happy to be using Firefox instead.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:19 | Open on c.im
manuelcaeiro ☕
Wendy Lady
sweepss
Alexander Hay
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Dave Smeg

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
I've tried Chrome Browser several times over the years and never once had an advert blocking plugin actually work.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:44 | Open on mastodon.social
waldi
Dave Smeg

@waldi @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
They are going to stop things working that didn't even work in the first place.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:54 | Open on mastodon.social
Brian Stafford

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
I like the "Big Brother Eye" image. It's like Google is now Big Brother except that the Big Brother House is actually the entire planet and there is no Diary Room.

(UK folks - imagine this in a North East accent)
Big Google has granted the planetmates access to the internet. Unfortunately Big Google has disabled the adblockers. Any planetmates not using Chrome will face eviction from the Big Google Planet.

17 Nov 2023 at 16:47 | Open on mastodon.ie
Sarah V. 🍕
waldi

@sarahv @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Yes. They remove a widely misused API that allows a malicious extension to get all your secret stuff, every last drop of it.

You might be fine with your access token out in the open, the ones with access to your nude pictures. Others are clearly not.

And they replace it with something the ublock origin people (at least that’s how they call themselves on GitHub) document as almost on par with the original, but way less ways to misuse.

17 Nov 2023 at 17:47 | Open on chaos.social
Sarah V. 🍕

@waldi @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Just a little Internet tip, when addressing a woman you don't know for the first time, don't imply that she definitely has nude photos on her computer. You don't know me, how old I am, etc. You sound like a creep. 👍

17 Nov 2023 at 17:54 | Open on dftba.club
waldi

@sarahv @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Why would I assume you do? Everyone got something she does not want others to know, especially people with sinister motives.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:09 | Open on chaos.social
Sarah V. 🍕

@waldi @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff I'm just saying that you worded your reply to me in a very weird way ("access to your nude pictures") and you might want to avoid doing that in the future. I found it very offputting coming from a total stranger.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:38 | Open on dftba.club
Henrý Ólson

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff if you want to use chromium still, you can block ads on the dns level

disabling javascript by default should block most ads too

if you just care about youtube, (according to a friend) youtube uses ads.youtube.com to serve ads, so just mapping that to 0.0.0.0 should work

also, I highly recommend using a privacy-friendly frontend like invidious rather than using youtube directly

if you're a creator, I recommend mirroring your videos to a peertube instance

17 Nov 2023 at 16:55 | Open on camp.crates.im
waldi

@nemo @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff You can also install the ublock origin lite variant. They even share most of the name.

17 Nov 2023 at 17:48 | Open on chaos.social
AppleAndAria
Henrý Ólson

@AppleAndAria @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff you can manage your javascript in chrome://settings/content/javascript, note that this will break websites

the general idea is you disable javascript by default and enable it on a per site basis

as for dns, it largely depends on what you're using for managing your dns on which platform

on *nix you just set whatever manages your resolv.conf to point to any dns server that can block ads for you

18 Nov 2023 at 4:19 | Open on camp.crates.im
Mark KIng

@AppleAndAria @nemo @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff for the DNS Settings> Privacy and Security > Security then set the DoH to customised dns.adguard-dns.com/dns-query
18 Nov 2023 at 11:58 | Open on mastodon.social
AutisticMumTo3 She/her 🌈
reajulhasanraju
Magenta Rocks

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

Help me understand the loyalty to Chrome when there are so many other alternatives. It never even occurred to me to use it.

🔥 🦊!!!

17 Nov 2023 at 17:05 | Open on mastodon.coffee
Michael Harley

@catsalad idk how anyone can use tor as a daily driver. It’s so slowww

17 Nov 2023 at 17:06 | Open on infosec.exchange
Sadderp 🇮🇪 🇪🇺🇫🇷
AlienKnight

@catsalad Thanks for this. I'm making an announcement on this instance with this post, I really didn't expect them to go quite this far

17 Nov 2023 at 17:36 | Open on toot.garden
Dave Bryant aka Tom_Clowder

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff I will put in a word for Safari, which I use and think well of—certainly better even than the Mozilla browsers.

17 Nov 2023 at 17:39 | Open on meow.social
Eric Carroll
nícia cruz

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff so glad i'm ditching for almost everything Google. These companies have too much power over our lives...

17 Nov 2023 at 17:49 | Open on mastodon.social
DELETED

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

This is why Mozilla Firefox is my default web browser of choice.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:01 | Open on mstdn.social
Fábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕

@Linux_Is_Best @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Me too... Also there's some other browsers... Avoid Chrome as much as possible

17 Nov 2023 at 18:03 | Open on ursal.zone
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@fabiocosta0305 @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

Many of those so-called other web browsers are chromium (Chrome).

microsoft edge, brave browser, vivaldi browser, and opera browser to name a few are on borrowed time. the next update incorporates it into the core.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:05 | Open on mstdn.social
𝖆𝖒𝖆𝖗𝖔𝖐 🇨🇿🇪🇺

@Linux_Is_Best
Indeed, but browsers like Brave will continue blocking ads despite of the controversial Manifest v3. Mozilla will probably soon disallow v2 and support v3 too, that's because Google is basically paying all of Mozilla's bills, Mozilla can't afford to loose its main supporter. Unless M can find another sponsor (hopefully!).
@fabiocosta0305 @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

18 Nov 2023 at 8:18 | Open on mastodonczech.cz
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@amarok @fabiocosta0305 @catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

Incorrect. Brave browser does not block ads, they have ads of their own. Plus, Chromium is the reason why YouTube could detect Brave and demand you disable ad blockers.

Firefox's users had no such issue.

18 Nov 2023 at 17:11 | Open on mstdn.social
Waseem

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff this is a good thing you know why? Previously i had less reasons to use firefox more frequently although I have it installed.
After this, I'll have a major reason for not using chrome.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:11 | Open on mas.to
MylesRyden

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

I wonder how this will affect Chromium based browsers such as Vivaldi.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:22 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
WildEnte

@MylesRyden quote "it looks very likely that the Vivaldi Ad Blocker won’t suffer any adverse effects from the Manifest V3 changes.", see social.vivaldi.net/@Vivaldi/11

18 Nov 2023 at 12:20 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff I think it's time for a sort of Chromium fork that maintains the core Chromium features but also Manifest v2. Brave & Vivaldi are already keeping it.

As for Firefox, err... You folks might not like to hear this, but I've tried it, and hate it...

17 Nov 2023 at 18:28 | Open on fosstodon.org
Tomi the Slav and 1024 others
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@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff One of many reasons II have never allowed chrome on ***any*** of my devices.
I guess that also applies to ungoogled chrome too ??

17 Nov 2023 at 18:34 | Open on mastodon.social
Kevan
Steve :verified:

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
If you don't trust Google but nevertheless use Chrome, just suck it up!

You probably didn't choose Chrome anyway, it was just there following some absent minded T&Cs skip

Firefox with uBlock + Ghostery addons gives me ad free YouuTube as well as UK commercial TV streaming.

Advertising isn't innocent.

It persuades people who lack the ability to judge product quality themselves, relying instead on engaging messages the result being, they pay a premium for the advertised product.

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
If you don't trust Google but nevertheless use Chrome, just suck it up!

You probably didn't choose Chrome anyway, it was just there following some absent minded T&Cs skip

Firefox with uBlock + Ghostery addons gives me ad free YouuTube as well as UK commercial TV streaming.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:43 | Open on universeodon.com
UrbanEdm

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff @Daveography Far from an automatic win for Google. Just as their fight against ad blockers is turning people to find better blockers, now it'll also force them to find better browsers.

17 Nov 2023 at 18:52 | Open on mstdn.ca
Siobhan
Penny

@catsalad Fuck Google. All my homies hate google

17 Nov 2023 at 19:16 | Open on indiepocalypse.social
Pheo :blobcat:

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff damn, atleast i use firefox and falkon for browsing

17 Nov 2023 at 19:18 | Open on wetdry.world
nitrofurano
Mike Williams

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Well that's a hard no on Chrome going forward then. I'll just leave this here mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ #Firefox

17 Nov 2023 at 19:27 | Open on universeodon.com
Marek :verified:
The Saanich Daily

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Firefox for the win. I still go back and forth a bit between Chrome and FF but I'm doing it less and less.

17 Nov 2023 at 19:40 | Open on mstdn.ca
spidey :Clairen_0: :Hodan_0:

@catsalad I am wondering, will this affect other browsers that are based on Chromium? (Edge, Vivaldi, Opera, etc)

17 Nov 2023 at 19:40 | Open on discuss.smash.today
atecon

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
If Firefox starts to add support for groups of tabs and also make sure that I don't lose again several docents of tabs after quitting the browser without intention, I am the first willing to move there again

17 Nov 2023 at 19:53 | Open on mastodon.social
Jessica's new Main
gozes
ℕoah ℝoss ☭

Nobody has an excuse to keep using Chrome.

17 Nov 2023 at 20:23 | Open on mstdn.social
Filipe

@catsalad What's your opinion on #Vivaldi vs #Firefox? I know Vivaldi is #Chromium, but it seems to me that the company is a bit more well-intentioned (doesn't take money from Google, for example). But I'm always unsure. Is it basically personal preference between the 2?

17 Nov 2023 at 20:46 | Open on social.filipesm.eu
Cotopaxi

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff #DuckDuckGo search engine will not screw with you like Google does. It's a great alternative, try it.

17 Nov 2023 at 20:48 | Open on mstdn.social
Jesse Schooff

@catsalad Google's self-appointed position as the internet's Security Protocols Czar is in direct conflict with their position as the world's largest advertising company. This couldn't be a more blatant conflict of interest.

17 Nov 2023 at 20:49 | Open on infosec.exchange
Pangoria Fallstar | DM VTUBER EN | 🧡🟠🔶🟧

I am so glad I stopped using chrome. Aside from it trapping all my ram, this BS is the point to abandon it.

17 Nov 2023 at 20:52 | Open on tech.lgbt
𝓛𝓮𝓮 :bc_kirby:

Schätze ein Vorsatz für das erste Halbjahr steht schon fest: Weg von einigen #Google-Podukten.

17 Nov 2023 at 20:56 | Open on nrw.social
Shirley Blair
Bär (with me for a second)

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

All that Google does with Chrome and #ManifestV3 looks like the ultimate goal is to cut non-compliant users off from Google search and Youtube.

We really need to get the alternatives going.

#youtube #degoogle

17 Nov 2023 at 21:03 | Open on fnordon.de
Erebus

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Years of using firefox in private mode plus adblock plus and still not a single problem. Not at least with YT. And ofc I doesn't use google as a search engine.

17 Nov 2023 at 21:04 | Open on ohai.social
Mark Stoneman

@catsalad Google doesn't control other Chromium-based browsers, though, right? Nor can it control filters outside of its browser. I still don't use it, but just saying.

17 Nov 2023 at 21:06 | Open on zirk.us
Ian K. Rogers ikr?╭ರ_ಠ

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

This is very concerning, but worth noting, Adblock Plus is pretty sure they will still work after MV# is rolled out. blog.adblockplus.org/blog/how-

17 Nov 2023 at 21:38 | Open on mstdn.social
Henning Uhle
F4GRX Sébastien
AdhadujDGn

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff divest! Just say ‘no’ to alphabet products

17 Nov 2023 at 22:03 | Open on mastodon.social
Kris

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

This dance between software companies wishing to limit & those who find a way around such limits has been going on for decades. This won't end any differently from other efforts.

17 Nov 2023 at 22:07 | Open on mastodon.social
Advanced Persistent Teapot

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff but this article seems to state that Firefox will also adopt MV3, doesn't that mean moving to Firefox will not help anyone?

17 Nov 2023 at 22:25 | Open on hachyderm.io
David Croyle

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff I got rid of all of my Chrome browser installs a few months back, except for my work laptop where I still need it at times.

17 Nov 2023 at 22:38 | Open on wandering.shop
kauer

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff the next step is to refuse to serve pages to any browser except Chrome... brrr

17 Nov 2023 at 22:41 | Open on aus.social
SpaceLifeForm
ponyponypony
Christal

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff
use wget or screenshots on social media. Or just Braindata Streams from folks who consumed that Data to have it plaintext online...

17 Nov 2023 at 23:33 | Open on social.tchncs.de
solo

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff goog is trying yet again to kill ad blockers and anything they don't like

classic EEE

17 Nov 2023 at 23:36 | Open on tech.lgbt
Le Proviseur :unverified:
Bill Sideris :verified:

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Librewolf is also good if you want something in between of FF and Tor.

17 Nov 2023 at 23:42 | Open on c.im
Nopon Sage 🌀

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Isn’t this like the Nth time they’ve tried this and yet somehow adblockers always seem to keep working?

18 Nov 2023 at 0:04 | Open on seafoam.space
T

@catsalad

I recently installed GrapheneOS on my phone and I really wanted a Firefox version that fixes the vulnerabilities that Vanadium does while also allowing users to add extensions. I've been relaying on Firefox Nightly but it has been quite unstable lately.

I wonder if Fennec allows custom collections like Firefox Nightly does? I will give it a try.

18 Nov 2023 at 0:48 | Open on fosstodon.org
Steven Capsuto - Translator

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff Seriously. As much as your work needs will allow, ditch Google apps, ditch Microsoft, and ditch other control-freaky intrusive companies' products.

18 Nov 2023 at 1:10 | Open on lingo.lol
Mûmakil 🇵🇸
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Dave Bell

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff

#Google have been difficult to understand when their #GooglePlay store provides downloads for installed apps on Android. All content — new code or new data for a map — is listed as an #Update, but it may not be logged as an update.

Some of us are not even in the USA and have little confidence in the legality and security of design choices in #Chrome and other Google software.

18 Nov 2023 at 5:27 | Open on cupoftea.social
Leonard Ritter

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff inb4 google services only accessible through chrome

18 Nov 2023 at 8:03 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Piradix

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff la suppression de tous les plugin santipub de chrome est une bonne raison pour passer a #firefox ... Pour info ces plug-in enlèvent les pubs, mais servent aussi et éviter les sites hacker et ils améliores la rapidité et la fluidité de l'affichage (moins de données a télécharger....)

18 Nov 2023 at 8:33 | Open on framapiaf.org
n3wjack
Graham Phillips
Matthias Rochow

@catsalad @mozilla @torproject @eff The DuckDuckGo browser is currently in the beta phase for Windows and MacOS. Maybe also worth a look.

18 Nov 2023 at 10:01 | Open on mograph.social
Ivan Herman

@catsalad @eff just an outsider’s question: is this a Chrome or a Chromium feature? Put it another way, how does this affect browsers that rely on Chromium as a web view, but have their own layer on top? (Like Brave, Arc, Vivaldi, Opera, …)

18 Nov 2023 at 11:39 | Open on w3c.social
WildEnte

@ivan_herman there are a couple of people asking the same question in this thread, from what I've seen Brave and Vivaldi at least will work to keep ad blocking alive. For Vivaldi see social.vivaldi.net/@Vivaldi/11

18 Nov 2023 at 12:22 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
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