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mekka okereke :verified:

♥️♥️♥️Shoutout to the staff of the hotel I stayed at for expertly de-escalating a Karen situation!

♥️♥️♥️And shoutout to the white hotel guests that stuck around to make sure that hotel security heard exactly what she was trying to do. My favorite comment: "Wow! A Karen situation in real life! I've only ever seen these online! This is surreal! What is she thinking?"

End result, yours truly did not get kicked out of the hotel for no reason, and feels slightly better about the state of the world.

98 comments
Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

@mekkaokereke
My God. I'm glad things worked out but very sorry that happened to you.

Ben

@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io It should not be exceptional for people to be treated like people. But it is. This is the world we live in. Let's fix it, folks. It's on us to do this

Woozle Hypertwin

@mekkaokereke Yay for bad thing not happening, but also of course OMG that this is still an effin' Thing in the twenty-first effin' century 🤦‍♀️

<s>Clearly whitepeople shouldn't travel unsupervised, or something.</s>

Hannu Ikonen, MD

@mekkaokereke my personal Karen real life situation was in a long rental care line in #ATL airport.

Earlier she & another white guy were talking about how they tended to mind their own business, believed in looking out for your neighbor, all this shit that seemed to be borne out of insecurity and discomfort. Talking up what good morals they got. Weird.

She finally makes it to the counter and her reservation was declined by her credit card, and all she had to do was use another....

1/2

Hannu Ikonen, MD

@mekkaokereke 2/2

Instead, she devolves rapidly. She has another card but refused to use it, wouldnt give up her spot in the line once that happened, the clerk was a non-English-speaking terrorist, she was gonna sue the rental company and get him deported.

I see this meltdown and the clerk is told to step aside and serve me. Did the best i could to reassure him of the Karenity of the situation, his english was fine, and that travel is stressful so try not to take 👉👉 (her) personally

Hannu Ikonen, MD

@mekkaokereke Not that he should have to put up with it at all of course, but he seemed hurt by the whole thing. Security was dealing with her.

mekka okereke :verified:

I was standing in line to ask the front desk a question. I was masked up, and giving the person talking to the front desk attendant plenty of space (about 20ft). So much space that a man didn't realize I was in line, and stood in line behind the person talking to the attendant.

I said "Sorry, but I am in line! But don't worry I just have a very quick question."

The man didn't understand me, and said indignantly "I'm in a hurry too! Even if it is a quick question! But fine! Whatever! Go ahead!"

Marge 吴静玫

@mekkaokereke Glad it worked out. I think the number one thing, aside from not engaging in fuckery, white folks who are anti-racist can do is stick around and corroborate.

Samhain Night 4 Harris

@WuMargaret @mekkaokereke and speak out against any Karening going on. Racists assume that other white people's silence is support.

mekka okereke :verified:

I said to the man "No, you don't get it. I'm not asking to cut you in line. I'm saying that I was already waiting in line when you got here. You cut me!"

The man said very loudly, "Well, I didn't know that! But I already let you go in front of me!"

I said, "How are you mad at me? There's no need to get upset here. Just relax! It's a nice day!" I shook my head in confusion. The man and I switched places.

At this point, the conversation with me and the man was over.

Enter Karen...

mekka okereke :verified:

The woman in front of me, turned around and shouted "Both of you shut up!"

Everyone was of course shocked.

I said, "Umm.. no, I'm not going to 'shut up.' I'm going to take my place in line. This doesn't even concern you. Why are you involved?"

At this point she said, "You're threatening me! I feel intimidated!"

*Audible gasps from white crowd*

*cringe wince from front desk staff*

A few guests said, "Is she serious right now?"

She leans in to front desk staff and calls security on
me.

The woman in front of me, turned around and shouted "Both of you shut up!"

Everyone was of course shocked.

I said, "Umm.. no, I'm not going to 'shut up.' I'm going to take my place in line. This doesn't even concern you. Why are you involved?"

At this point she said, "You're threatening me! I feel intimidated!"

Matthew Broberg

@mekkaokereke good god, I’m so glad I know the ending already bc this is cringy

Matthew Broberg

@willaful absolutely scary—I could have been more thoughtful with my words there. I’m thankful you’re okay @mekkaokereke

mekka okereke :verified:

Security shows up, and she says that I'm intimidating her, standing too close to her, shouting at her, etc.

Security listened patiently to her story, and the other guests told what really happened.♥️

Security says, "Ma'am. We have security cameras and I saw everything that happened. What you said is not accurate. And...you initiated verbal contact with him? I'm not kicking him out, I'm not kicking you out, and I'm not kicking the other guest out. Is there anything else I can help you with?"

John Cutting

@mekkaokereke
I've always suspected that these Karens fantasize about calling security/police on [insert minorities of choice] the same way that gun nuts fantasize about murdering a "bad guy with a gun." Your Karen was just jonesing to butt in and escalate.

mekka okereke :verified:

Sometimes people really are intimidated by me. I'm a big dude! Trust me when I tell you that those folk act *very* differently.

This woman was not intimidated.

She wanted to use situational power to tell me to shut up, and the threat of force to get me kicked out of the hotel or subjected to physical violence.

She was genuinely surprised that most of the white folk that saw this interaction were appaled and disgusted by her actions. She was confused that she couldn't weaponize hotel security.

Edge

@mekkaokereke

This is sickening. Grateful it went the way it did.

Kevin Stewart

@mekkaokereke Grateful that things turned out the way they did.

Saddened but not surprised that it happened in the first place.

Ben Ramsey

@mekkaokereke I guess a good thing about the Karen meme is it helps us recognize what’s happening when it happens.

Woozle Hypertwin

@mekkaokereke The woke mind virus has taken away her freedom 🇺🇸 🎆 to weaponize racism! Help help, she's being repressed! Won't somebody think of the privilege?? (etc.)

This performance clearly qualifies for the Facepalme d'Or. 🏆

Woozle Hypertwin

@adrienne @mekkaokereke Honestly, I'm surprised it isn't already in wide usage.

I hereby release it under CC0. Fly and be free!! [releases it to go splat on the ground]

Kevin Lyda

@mekkaokereke Of course she wasn't intimidated. Does anyone really believe there's a "fight, flight, or narrate" response?

"The last thing I saw on the video call was Bill saying, "Oh look, there's a large bear charging at me intending to eat me" and then the image spun and all I could hear was crunching and gurgling. Damn that fight, flight or narrate response."

ES Michelson

Dear @mekkaokereke

My perspective: People see stuff, like bigness or Blackness, (or even a cloud) and think they understand what it signifies. That is usually not the case.

I hope you're well! Clearly a stressful situation that does take some time to recover from.

Your friend,
ESM

Meznor

@mekkaokereke I'm so sorry that happened to you, and that this kind of shit continues to happen. I promise if I'm observing/witnessing a situation like that I will act like those other guests did too. It may not stop the systemic nature of the problem but one less Karen perpetuating it is one less on the ledger and that's something.

JackieM

@mekkaokereke man oh man what goes through these bigots’ minds?!? I’m glad it turned out ok. I hope and pray this is a symptom of a changing culture. I remember when I started to notice that a homophobe was likely to be the odd one out instead of getting implicit or explicit support from the crowd. It made a big difference. Though clearly those gains aren’t guaranteed.

isotope239🥸💻📚🇺🇦

@mekkaokereke For cryin' out loud, what does being big (or black or male/female or anything else) have to do with it? You were politely standing in line, doing your best to mind your own business, and that entitled white creep blithely assumed that everyone else would cheer her on. I'm very pleased to hear that she was dead wrong and the hotel staff and security stepped up to the plate!

Coach Pāṇini ®

@mekkaokereke Wow.

Just wow.

The stars aligned with other humans being good people with high character and strong moral conviction.

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@mekkaokereke how did the angry dude react through this? just faded into the background?

mekka okereke :verified:

Giant Black man in the US decision tree

1) OK, this white man just accidentally cut in front of me. Should I even say anything? Or let it slide?

2) OK, I said something. Now he seems very angry! He thinks I am cutting him in line! Should I say anything? Or let it slide?

3) OK, Karen just yelled at both of us to "Shut up" Should I just shut up?

4) OK, she called security on me. Should I stick around? Or is the smart move to leave now?

Answers to questions are governed by my situational power

Meow :verified:

@mekkaokereke Stick around. Security guards aren't police in most areas. The most they can do is be a pain in the ass. As easier said than done as this is, just don't lose your cool. Don't give the guard or the other two people one bit of power over you.

mekka okereke :verified:

Just to maintain sanity, the answer is almost always "let it slide." 🤷🏿‍♂️

Has to be.

dria :firefox: :redhat:

@mekkaokereke I'm so sorry you have to deal with shit like that.

Piers Cawley

@mekkaokereke why didn't you this time, if you don't mind my asking?

mekka okereke :verified:

@pdcawley

Me personally? I can't let every single thing slide.
I don't think it's healthy to swallow your soul at every interaction. It's important to advocate for yourself.

But I didn't know that dude was going to get all angry. If I did, I probably wouldn't have said anything. It's just one spot. Not worth it. No good to be had from conversing with angry people. 🤷🏿‍♂️

But when Karen tried that, she was so out of pocket that everyone saw it. Staff, other guests etc. Low risk for me, big gain.

@pdcawley

Me personally? I can't let every single thing slide.
I don't think it's healthy to swallow your soul at every interaction. It's important to advocate for yourself.

But I didn't know that dude was going to get all angry. If I did, I probably wouldn't have said anything. It's just one spot. Not worth it. No good to be had from conversing with angry people. 🤷🏿‍♂️

Piers Cawley

@mekkaokereke thanks for the answer.

I'm very glad you got the good ending.

yaygya

@mekkaokereke I'm Canadian. I hear about racism and other safety issues in the US all the time, and yet my father, who worked in the USA in the '90s, still has the belief that it's a promised land that's absolutely perfect with no problems, just because of money.

Canada may be having its troubles right now, but I feel much, much more safer and welcomed here than I would in the US, especially the US of today. Seriously, I have no idea how you all manage to deal with this on a daily basis.

Philip Mallegol-Hansen

@mekkaokereke I’m sorry that happened to you, it’s fucked up.

And even more so, I’m sorry it probably isn’t even that unusual of a situation.

JustAFrog

@mekkaokereke Always great when a racist piece of shit discovers not every white person is on board with their injustice.

Crashing into cold hard reality.

Aquarabbit 😷

@mekkaokereke My protective attitude toward my new Mastodon acquaintances indicates that you may wish to disappear for now ... and maybe exact revenge later, both on the white dude and spiteful Karen.

McNulla

@mekkaokereke
The self control that you need to have must be great.

My temper, AKA less self control, is part of my white privilege.

birdpoof

@mekkaokereke

I am SO GLAD there were white witness allies that stuck around. The hotel security with their video evidence probably still would have ended up at the same conclusion, but more public allies in the mix always helps.

White allies, you have way more power in regular situations like this than you think. (And yes, it's rather regular, sadly.)

Amandine (She/Her)

@mekkaokereke I'm glad the other guests told security what really happened and that it deescalated. I'm sorry you had to deal with such a character.

22

@mekkaokereke sending hugs 🫶

What’s always fascinated me, ever since 9/11 made me (big brown dude) someone to fear, is how, once in a while I notice someone getting intimidated by me but I’ve never ever come close to this Karen-style “I will now activate cruelty mode just because I can” thing. Because I’m coded South Asian/Middle East, I just don’t trigger that sadistic response. It’s something folks only inflict on Black victims (as far as I know!, Indo-Pak/Middle East family, please tell me if you’ve found otherwise).

Gods know we brown folks face tons of challenges in this country but we are still playing America on easy mode compared to our beloved Black sibs 😢

@mekkaokereke sending hugs 🫶

What’s always fascinated me, ever since 9/11 made me (big brown dude) someone to fear, is how, once in a while I notice someone getting intimidated by me but I’ve never ever come close to this Karen-style “I will now activate cruelty mode just because I can” thing. Because I’m coded South Asian/Middle East, I just don’t trigger that sadistic response. It’s something folks only inflict on Black victims (as far as I know!, Indo-Pak/Middle East family, please tell me if...

BlackDutchSnark

@mekkaokereke I’m glad security was doing their job properly. But the front desk shouldn’t have called security on you but on her…she initiated contact and was abusive to you. What a racist b!tch!!

bjb :devuannew: :emacs:

@johnettesnuggs @mekkaokereke The way I read it, SHE reached over the front desk and used the front desk's phone to call security.

mekka okereke :verified:

@johnettesnuggs

Well, the front desk acted as they have to. Once someone asks for security, they have to call them.🤷🏿‍♂️

This is similar to how if someone calls 911 on a Black person minding their business, cops have to respond. Most cops hate receiving these calls! Because they know that they have to make contact with an innocent Black person that was just minding their business.

The cops have to ID the suspect, but the law says that the suspect doesn't have to give ID. Lose/lose for the cop.🙂🙃

@johnettesnuggs

Well, the front desk acted as they have to. Once someone asks for security, they have to call them.🤷🏿‍♂️

This is similar to how if someone calls 911 on a Black person minding their business, cops have to respond. Most cops hate receiving these calls! Because they know that they have to make contact with an innocent Black person that was just minding their business.

Marge 吴静玫

@mekkaokereke Wow. Reading the rest of this, I am really glad it turned out ok. No one deserves to even think that they could be in mortal danger over this bullshit.

bttk

@mekkaokereke "Ma'am. We have security cameras. Watch this 50k view TikTok we posted 5 minutes ago."

Sharkgirl Transpiring

@mekkaokereke lordy lord! What an absolute weirdo! Clearly someone who is in the habit of abusing her white womanhood and status to take her feelings out on others.

Also, kinda nice to hear that people are responding in a more helpful and responsive manner all around. Like, the fact that the white bystanders were primed to not just let things play out in a bad way matters and that's good to hear because I know it often hasn't been that way.

Glad you're okay either way

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@mekkaokereke And this is why i have a deep hatred for the term BOTH SIDES!!. Not just because adults in schools do it when an innocent kid is being bullied.

But because it's used in politics to give republicans/conservatives a leg up when they clearly don't need it. Done for the exact same reasons that lady did it with you.

Marc Hedlund

@mekkaokereke glad you did not get kicked out, sorry to hear it happened at all.

Captain Superfluous

@mekkaokereke

Very glad worse things did not happen. Thank you for sharing!

mybarkingdogs

@mekkaokereke YAY glad to hear you're OK (well, physically and financially etc at least, and hopefully emotionally too.)

Jill 🛸

@mekkaokereke thank goodness. Nobody deserves to be treated that way.

John Refior

@mekkaokereke
From Invisible Man (despite being "a big dude") to my-property-taxes-pay-cops-to-enforce-the-racial-caste-system

Old book cover of Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison. On a background that looks like a rocky landscape in brown shadow, some patches of light vaguely suggest a man's face
Tattie (newaccount)

@mekkaokereke thank goodness for people being decent, and also being wise to this behaviour.

I bet the Karen saw that the rest of the guests were white and just assumed they'd fall in line with her against you. Fucking racist.

Flock of Cats 🐈 🐈 🐈 🎄

@mekkaokereke sorry you had to deal with this 😞, but glad for the positive outcome!

Sriram "sri" Ramkrishna - 😼

@mekkaokereke thank you for sharing this. You are correct! Loved how this went down I could see it unfolding in my minds eye!

Valerie Aurora

@mekkaokereke the internet is good for something! seriously, looks like at least some white folks have moved past awareness raising and on to taking action and 😍

Wren Reilly

@mekkaokereke I’m happy you’re safe. Sometimes, memes are genuinely useful.

Mark Maguire

@mekkaokereke Still, sorry you had to go through that in the first place. Glad it got deescalated in the end.

Ben Rosengart

@mekkaokereke Sorry that happened, glad you got a good outcome.

Callalily

@mekkaokereke
Sorry to hear that happened to you. But glad that the other guests in line told the truth of situation to security. It's really sad that people act like that. Good to hear that security kicked her out.

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