@pezmico I tend to think that assessment is optimistic. We are in the fuck part of the timeline.

@pezmico Here's the thing: civilization might survive the fuck phase.

@pezmico The XKCD cartoon about global warming is the most sobering I’ve ever seen: https://xkcd.com/1732/

@pezmico somedays I think we're getting into "Fuck"

@pezmico I wish, in the USA, we could start talking about a national 55 mph speed limit. And shut down a few pipelines.

@pezmico well, yes. but it's not working. humanity now feels guilty about it. but we keep acting like humans. in some respect, nature might want to step up and apologise here. where did we come from? we didn't create ourselves. you might call it nature's mistake. but mother nature never apologises.

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@pezmico
We passed Oops a while back.

@pezmico
In Nova Scotia, after Hurricane Fiona last year, and the wildfires and historic flooding this year, we're in "Fuck!"

Lots of people saying they're already in Fuck.

While I'm not in any position to debate what's the most accurate measurement of your position in this Highly Accurate and Rigorously Scientific timeline, I do feel that "Fuck" really comes when the food supply dwindles, water gets scarce (Hello Uruguay), coastal cities need to be evacuated and in general, our attempts to keep normality going become untenable.

But yeah, not going to argue where you are on this.

@pezmico The current diversion is "we can't do anything about it now anyway". As the change is not binary, of course we can - even though we can't reverse the situation fully, what we do about decarbonization today still matters *a lot*.

@pezmico you forgot the "it's too late, we can't do anything, so why try" phase.

@pezmico I love this! At the same time until the curve starts getting bent down, we're still in the fuck around period. Find out period happens 50-100 years *after* net emissions start to decline. Unless clathrate gun. Then... Saddness

@pezmico
We may even be at the beginning of "Fuck!".

@pezmico @fasol i thought we were just passing the 'oops'/'fuck' border in the south and still in the 'no worries' in the north.

@pezmico I think a lot of people may have the idea they can wait until it gets to the far end there and then just "fix it" overnight -- like a sort of procrastination on a global scale. Except that's not how global warming works... It would take decades just to get back to reasonable levels if we instantly stopped all emissions (impossible!) stopped cutting forests, and replanted all the trees we cut before. As things stand it could be hundreds of years in a realistic scenario.

@pezmico I think we're in "Fuck, too late" ...but I'm a pessimist.

It does not matter whether climate change is caused by humans or not.

The fact that many forest fires are caused by lightning strikes, does not mean that we stand by the side without trying to reduce/prevent the damage.

The 'OOPS' phase that you show, is enough reason to get into action. Caused by humans or not.

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@pezmico Sorry, we are in "FUCK."

@pezmico I'm enjoying the new articles asking "Are Future Humans Our Problem?" when discussing climate change. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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Yeah,
Global north is in Oops.
Global south is in Fuuuck.

I'm at Planet of the Apes "You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! God damn you all to hell!"

@mrbadger42

@pezmico I've been in "fuck" for nearly the entirety of my life

@pezmico unfortunately way too many people are still stuck thinking climate change isn't real.

@pezmico we positively are in the "fuck" stage. The north Atlantic current conveyor is about to collapse anyday now.

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@pezmico feels like society's been mostly in an 'OK climate change is real, but lets talk about something less depressing' era for a few years now.

Not sure how many of us yelling oops and fuck it takes to change that.

@pezmico
I think we are still in the orange zone.

When people start to die in the thousands, that will be the oops zone.

The last zone will be bad.

@pezmico I think you’re right. However the “Fuck” camp is growing rapidly

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However, I know some "slower" people who are still in the second part. Oops and Fuck will then be more compressed for them. It will be more an "Oopsfuck" for them.

@pezmico i'd say we're at the beginnig of "fuck" 🔥🔥😬🔥🔥

@pezmico
I believe we're on the border heading from "Oops" to "Fuck", and may have already crossed it.

As always, IMO and YMMV.

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I'd rather say we're at the very beginning of the orange bar.

Not that I agree, I just don't think most people do.

@pezmico Kind of feels like a similar chart but for #brexit here. "OK, Brexit is real, we're just not convinced it's a *totally* shit idea yet."

@pezmico Closer to "Fuck", IMO. :/

@pezmico

Deniers skip the "ooops" phase.

They go straight from "it's not our fault" to "nothing we can do to stop it, gotta learn to live with it" (aka, screw the poor people).

@pezmico not many people in "Oops" yet from what I can tell.

@pezmico
Sorry but I reckon we've been at FUUUUCKKKK!
for quite a while now,

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I think people are more likely to shrug and say, "what do you want me to do about it?"

The people in the biggest position of influence are the corporate heads. They have their bunkers, hideaways, tickets to mars, whatever they need to insulate them from consequences.

@pezmico
Personally, I think we're in "Oops" right now, and "Fuck" will be when one of those enormous ice shelves collapses and falls into the ocean.
Or a major ocean current stops.

@pezmico Nope, we're at 90%. We can’t stop it. 😞😔

@pezmico
People never learned that it works the same way as preventing diabetes. We might not have full control over our future health, but we still try to eat well in the hopes that's enough to prevent it. We also should have all tried our best to stop climate change. Maybe we only ever had partial control over it, I don't know... but it was never an acceptable excuse to not even try.

@pezmico https://youtu.be/nSXIetP5iak

@pezmico I guess you are quite optimistic.

@pezmico
Actually there are way too many people who are not convinced that it is caused by humans!
@Cryptomon

@pezmico
we are well into the middle of fuck, and as usual, most are behind only thinking we are in oops. because people are going oops now....while still doing fuck all.

@pezmico we might be even further down