Gregory's ServerDear fediverse: someone being a “furry” does not warrant a report. If you don’t like furries, there is a handy option to block or mute people.
Thank you for your attention.
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
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Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
@MagicLike the fediverse is starting to resemble my home owner’s association.
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
@doot “he said I was mean” “She isn’t wearing enough clothes in that pic” “That account posted two posts within a few minutes of each other” “This person thinks it’s ok to get a poisonous vaccines” “This person thinks it’s ok to not get a lifesaving vaccine” And on and on and on 
Phil M0OFX
Experiencer (Mastodon)
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@experiencersinternational @jerry thing is, you're having to deal with other people's perceptions of their own server being applied to your own and vice versa. To you it's a security server, to them it's just another part of the platform where they talk about cats and/or get freaky, and vice versa. So you're moderating based on a whole host of perceptions and rules
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
@doot @experiencersinternational this. Plus security people are human. And humans can be weird.
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@jerry @experiencersinternational Everyone's got a thing, and oh boy do we love sharing it on the fedi, much to the dismay of admins everywhere 😁 
Jernej Simončič �
> “That account posted two posts within a few minutes of each other” I'm so sorry, I didn't know I have to moderate my posting!
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
@jernej__s @doot we’ll let you know if it’s a problem. Just pointing out some of the complaints we get.
ClaraBlackInk
@jerry @doot Making it easy to report people very much has that side effect. There's a sense that reporting someone somehow validates your position because someone else will see why you don't like that person. Muting and blocking are quiet ways of doing this but then no one gets to agree with you by taking action. Obviously reporting is a necessary feature but...yeah... I'm guessing it is most often used incorrectly. 
Karl
@jerry Today, I reported an account that seemed completely new, used Chinese as primary language, followed me (and only me) and pinged me in quick succession on the basis that it was probably a bot, and worth looking into. Was that overzealous, and should I have made sure that it was, in fact, a bot, or did my suspicions warrant a report for mods to take a look at said account?
Dr. Ogg :verified:
@jerry are you serious, I would expect this on Facebook... not here wow, what a fail
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Why would anyone report this cute little thing? Wait...furry, not Furby. Ok, now it makes a bit more sense.
Tim Hergert
 
Aaron
@helligbird @jerry I flat out do not understand it. Even what it is. But I'm so hesitant to ask because I'd hate to come off as judgmental or closed-minded when I'm really just completely ignorant and confused.
Melpomene
@Loukas@mastodon.nu @jerry@infosec.exchange The hate furries get is 100% nonsense. I'm not a furry, but furries are cool with me.
Kerploppus
@jerry Yeah, true story. Although it'd be nice to have an AI to proactively block/mute large numbers of people instead of having to reactively do it after getting skeeved out.
Uwe Schwarz ッ�
@ericatty Cunningham's Law at work: "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
soma
even though i follow and like a furry myself, i think these degenerate pieces of shit should be punished by death irl (if they can't be cured)
DefinitelyYeah
 
:bun: Stellar 🇫🇷
@jerry@infosec.exchange did someone really file a report for "furry" :blobcatlul:
Kevin Mirsky :donor:
@jerry Does Mastodon give you the ability to mute a reporter? Or see who the person sending inane reports is?
Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:
@kevinmirsky we can reject reports from problematic instances, but that’s about it
Walker
@jerry This type of activity is unfortunitally expected as Mastodon gains more wider appeal. New users are interfacing for the first time with niche communities that were historically insulated. In the end it should be good, people can see that the denezins of these communities are regular people and not a threat to the greater whole. As long as everyone plays nice, does not force their views on others, and live and let live, we will all get along.
mikefordays
 
la .samflir. :ms_robot:
@jerry if someone doesn't like furries, infosec may not be the best career for them. :ms_robot_grin:  
Santiago Lema :amiga:
@morecowbell @jerry there’s a high risk of cuddling and giggling that cannot be discarded 
FS9-BS "Bad Survivor"
@jerry Some people are such losers I swear. Some of the raddest people I know are furries, so what they have a weird hobby dressing up and playing make believe? That's cool, actually! Being weird is good! Having an imagination is good! Having fun is good! It's like reporting somebody for saying they play Dungeons and Dragons. 
Servia Marcia Nemoris
@jerry I want to be in a place where I needed to say something like, "Why on Earth would anybody..." But I'm on the Internet and let's face it, we know perfectly well why anybody would, and it's because people are terrible [on the Internet*]. [* Delete according to degree of personal misanthropy.] 
Chris [list of emoji]
"Say you're new to the Internet without saying you're new to the Internet." (Facebook doesn't really qualify as Internet.)  
Phil M0OFX
@jerry Speaking as a former furry -- and with the emphasis that this doesn't excuse the anti-furry hate -- but they do the same thing to people they don't like, and for the most petty of reasons. There's no innocence here.
vurpo
@philpem You can't "both sides" this just because you once encountered someone else also doing the bad thing. Do you know for a fact that everyone who got reported for "furry" is themselves guilty of the same thing? Or are you implying there is some greater system of cosmic justice going on here?
Phil M0OFX
@vurpo I'm implying nothing. I've had similar experiences and I've seen how they behave and coordinate - and that's all I'm pointing out. Sometimes both sides really do deserve each other.
Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag
@jerry I was involved in helping with a Wizard of Oz fan convention in Portland, OR, one year. The chair was an older woman - a close friend - who reached out to local fandom for help with the practicalities. This Oz group had been using the same location in CA for years, and running a con at a new place was a challenge. 1/?
Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag
@jerry When I heard who was helping us, I told the chair what furries were. So she was disappointed when the first day of the con arrived and her new friends showed up in regular clothing - no fursuits. 2/?
Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag
@jerry I was incredibly impressed by the furries. They didn't just show up, they showed up professionally, with sensitivity to the people they were helping, and they volunteered time and effort to make the convention a success. My opinion of furries, which had been neutral uncertainty, swung right over into positive and has stayed there since.
Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag
@jerry Despite that, thank you for bringing back some lovely memories with your mention of furries. 5/5
Phil M0OFX
@realtegan For some reason this thread isn't fully loading on my instance -- but what a great story and a huge contrast to my experiences (the group I met routinely picked fights with attendees, were incredibly ableist, really nepotistic and were just generally toxic people).
Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag
@philpem I'm just glad my experiences with furries have been almost entirely positive.
John Philip Bell
@jerry I haven't shaved in a few days... So I'm a little 'fuzzy' is that something someone can report too!??? (I mean aside from my wife, she gets to raise it as a issue.) 🤪  
Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident)
I wonder who is in the #fediverse and is adverse of #furries … I mean for me the fediverse was made FOR furries!
Mark Tomczak
@jerry "We at the server furhouse.social appreciate your feedback. As a result of your report, we have looked into this person and discovered they were an artist whose Patreon we had not yet subscribed to. We have rectified the error. Please feel free to notify us about other oversights in the future. Sincerely, the admin."
Julie (she/they) 🚝🏳️⚧️🏹🎯
@jerry lol, imagine being the person who walks into the fediverse and thinks furries shouldn't be here. read the room, people.
Lunar Exploration Module 🤖🏳️⚧️
@jerry@infosec.exchange on InfoSec dot exchange no less. What do they think InfoSec is like?
Steve Lord
@jerry I mean, if someone doesn't like furries the fediverse *really* is the wrong network for them. 
Chaotic Natural 20
@jerry 
natriumchloride
@jerry not to play devil's advocate but it technically would warrant a report if 'being a furry' was against the server's rules lol. Haven't yet seen such a server rule out in the wild though 
bumblefudge
@jerry if you're surprised to find a furry on "infosec.exchange" i dare say you don't know the first think about information security 
gavinisdie :troll:
@jerry I think it's weird that people will hate onnand hunt furries more than pedophiles     
steve mookie kong
> If you don’t like furries, there is a handy option to block or mute people. Or learn to be more inclusive.
John Colagioia
@jerry I've long been of the opinion that "report" should be broken out into items like "called for the extermination of a subpopulation of humans," "spread misinformation," and "person's existence is sinful." The last would have an automated resolution...  
Dennis Faucher :donor: :mastodon:
@jerry Oh, Lort. This HOA is out of control. Furries run the treadmills that keep the Fedi lights on! 
cuntroll
@jerry@infosec.exchange lmao some people are snowflakes 
unixjunk1e 🌵
@jerry "Tell the 'verse you're new around here without telling the 'verse you're new around here." :itsaliens: 😂 When I first set up a mastodon account some years ago, manga/anime and furries were basically the core of the content 😄
Sandy Johnson
@jerry |
@jerry sorry, but I have ask it again - What the Actual FUCK is wrong with people?