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There’s literal evidence that #Meta invited stakeholders for an off the record meeting as per @kev https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836 In light of that it’s not a reach to assume @Gargron was invited too, and to then subsequently ask for confirmation that no payment has been received and will be accepted 12 comments
 @thattridentdude @feditips @kev And there are two key things here: - Eugen has already said there are no secret deals he knows of, which would presumably include anything that happened at said meeting or anything involving Mastodon gGmbH. @thattridentdude @feditips @kev We have gotten to truly toxic disinformation levels, and I truly believe we need to start cutting out parts of the fediverse who use "rumors" to create drama and build followings based on fiction, especially when that fiction causes panic and real harm. We lack a Fact Check feature here, so here it is: This particular feditip escapade is bullpoop. @ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron It’s neither a stretch nor wild imho, meetings have a purpose and it’s entirely plausible that the purpose of this meeting was to come to a financial agreement Asking for clarification in the form of unequivocal statements that no payment has been made and none will be accepted is fair and trying to cast it as some weird conspiracy does nothing to further the truth If drama is the disease then the statement is the cure @ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron What decidedly doesn’t help is throwing oil onto the fire by acting like everyone with a concern is some weird tinfoil conspiracy crackpot in a bunker instead of actually engaging in good faith and trying to address their concerns What also doesn’t help is making a half hearted attempt at brushing off concerns by saying “yeah XMPP might have suffered by an EEE strategy, but who cares only a bunch of nerds cared about that, lol” @ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron And what certainly doesn’t help is rushing to unilaterally kill a discussion that questions the practices of accepting money from questionable sources https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/discussions/18759 Maybe you do not care about these concerns, and maybe it generally angers you that people voice these concerns because you genuinely see them as unfounded FUD in an attempt to tear the community apart @ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron But even so, it’s in your best interest to take these concerns seriously and engage with them on a good faith basis, because acting like it’s all just a crackpot conspiracy theory isn’t going to convince anyone and will only generate more “conspiracy theorists” @ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron I personally had the attitude of “we’ll see what happens”, until I too starting to have questions after reading the blog post that feels rather tone deaf, which was exacerbated by the hastily closed GitHub discussion Now I too am wondering if there’s a there there, especially considering how easy it is to nip these questions in the bud and how easy it is to acknowledge concerns @ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron If that’s objectionable to you and makes me a conspiracy nut job, then by all means sign me up as the king of tinfoil head wearing conspiracy nut jobs I’ll wear it like a badge of honor, just like I wear the badges of socialist and communist with honor, given to me by people here in the US just because I deign to suggest that everyone should be able to live a dignified life @thattridentdude @feditips He has TOLD YOU there's no agreement. The statement was made. The disease is conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation. @thattridentdude @feditips Yeah, I'm just gonna save myself some time and throw a block now. You specifically say "plausible that the purpose of this meeting was to come to a financial agreement". But "there is no agreement" isn't a good enough answer, because, you know, could be something else. You're moving the goalposts because that's what concern trolls *do*. |
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@thattridentdude @feditips @kev @Gargron Invited to a meeting, absolutely! Meetings happen all the time. It's absolutely a stretch to start inventing wild conspiracy theories because people from two groups *talked to each other*.