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ocdtrekkie

@thattridentdude @feditips @kev @Gargron Invited to a meeting, absolutely! Meetings happen all the time. It's absolutely a stretch to start inventing wild conspiracy theories because people from two groups *talked to each other*.

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ocdtrekkie

@thattridentdude @feditips @kev And there are two key things here:

- Eugen has already said there are no secret deals he knows of, which would presumably include anything that happened at said meeting or anything involving Mastodon gGmbH.
- The fedipact crowd has spent the last couple weeks literally just *making stuff up* and then reporting it as "unconfirmed rumors".

ocdtrekkie

@thattridentdude @feditips @kev We have gotten to truly toxic disinformation levels, and I truly believe we need to start cutting out parts of the fediverse who use "rumors" to create drama and build followings based on fiction, especially when that fiction causes panic and real harm.

We lack a Fact Check feature here, so here it is: This particular feditip escapade is bullpoop.

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron

It’s neither a stretch nor wild imho, meetings have a purpose and it’s entirely plausible that the purpose of this meeting was to come to a financial agreement

Asking for clarification in the form of unequivocal statements that no payment has been made and none will be accepted is fair and trying to cast it as some weird conspiracy does nothing to further the truth

If drama is the disease then the statement is the cure

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron

What decidedly doesn’t help is throwing oil onto the fire by acting like everyone with a concern is some weird tinfoil conspiracy crackpot in a bunker instead of actually engaging in good faith and trying to address their concerns

What also doesn’t help is making a half hearted attempt at brushing off concerns by saying “yeah XMPP might have suffered by an EEE strategy, but who cares only a bunch of nerds cared about that, lol”

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron

And what certainly doesn’t help is rushing to unilaterally kill a discussion that questions the practices of accepting money from questionable sources github.com/mastodon/mastodon/d

Maybe you do not care about these concerns, and maybe it generally angers you that people voice these concerns because you genuinely see them as unfounded FUD in an attempt to tear the community apart

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron

But even so, it’s in your best interest to take these concerns seriously and engage with them on a good faith basis, because acting like it’s all just a crackpot conspiracy theory isn’t going to convince anyone and will only generate more “conspiracy theorists”

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron

I personally had the attitude of “we’ll see what happens”, until I too starting to have questions after reading the blog post that feels rather tone deaf, which was exacerbated by the hastily closed GitHub discussion

Now I too am wondering if there’s a there there, especially considering how easy it is to nip these questions in the bud and how easy it is to acknowledge concerns

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips @kev @Gargron

If that’s objectionable to you and makes me a conspiracy nut job, then by all means sign me up as the king of tinfoil head wearing conspiracy nut jobs

I’ll wear it like a badge of honor, just like I wear the badges of socialist and communist with honor, given to me by people here in the US just because I deign to suggest that everyone should be able to live a dignified life

ocdtrekkie

@thattridentdude @feditips He has TOLD YOU there's no agreement. The statement was made. The disease is conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation.

D.B. Galeli đź”±

@ocdtrekkie @feditips

He stated: “I am not aware of any secret deals with Meta”
That’s decidedly not the same as “we haven’t received funds from #Meta” and it’s even further away from “we won’t accept any funds”

But you know this already, since people have pointed this out to you numerous times
Your follow up to this has been in the vain of “he’s busy, doesn’t owe denial to every claim”

You’re right, its not owed, but simultaneously the people seeking it don’t owe assumption of non-payment

@ocdtrekkie @feditips

He stated: “I am not aware of any secret deals with Meta”
That’s decidedly not the same as “we haven’t received funds from #Meta” and it’s even further away from “we won’t accept any funds”

But you know this already, since people have pointed this out to you numerous times
Your follow up to this has been in the vain of “he’s busy, doesn’t owe denial to every claim”

ocdtrekkie

@thattridentdude @feditips Yeah, I'm just gonna save myself some time and throw a block now. You specifically say "plausible that the purpose of this meeting was to come to a financial agreement".

But "there is no agreement" isn't a good enough answer, because, you know, could be something else.

You're moving the goalposts because that's what concern trolls *do*.

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