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🎶 Workin' on my night cheese! 🎶

@Em0nM4stodon this is it, exactly.

@Em0nM4stodon Yes!!!! Exactly!

@Em0nM4stodon how can I possibly monetize it for my own self if I just let anyone have that information?

@Em0nM4stodon I agree with what several others have said: "do you have anything to hide?" is incorrectly framed to begin with.

EVERYONE has things that they don't want to be public.

Whether it's what they do behind the bathroom door, or what was said when talking to one's significant other about the day at work, or which political party they voted for, or the recipe for Coca Cola, or the exact location of troops during an active military conflict, #privacy and confidentiality still matters.

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Signal is as encrypted and centralized as WhatsApp. Use something better for privacy, like @delta or @simplex

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https://youtu.be/4fv_gCn1CUU

@Em0nM4stodon as we always say

everyone has something worth hiding. most don't know it until too late.

@Em0nM4stodon "do you have anything to hide" aka "is there anything fishy you are doing, and that despite being close to you and a friend, i will probably snitch to the first cop i see if you tell me something slightly illegal"

@Em0nM4stodon *

@Em0nM4stodon And what can't be emphasized enough: even if you're not ~embarrassed~ or whatever at these things, they're all "false intimacy" vectors that can be used to phish, etc. by knowing context a stranger shouldn't.

@Em0nM4stodon “i have nothing to hide, but I’m worried about YOUR motivations”

@Em0nM4stodon something that has been around long before signal is XMPP and it's encrypted too 😏

@Em0nM4stodon It's not that I have anything to hide, it's what I do have is nobody else's business.

#CopsSuck

@Em0nM4stodon doesn't the NSA already have a root cert in #Windows? that alone is enough.

@Em0nM4stodon As the adage goes... not about having anything to hide, it's about not having anything that I wanna share ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange how much cheese do you have in your fridge? 🤨

@Em0nM4stodon "Not sharing publicly what you do not wish to share is your right." should be a hashtag #

@Em0nM4stodon Privacy is a /basic/ right, not a human one! I'm a wolf, and I need privacy too.

@Em0nM4stodon With Signal I have to give people my phone number, though :/

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Arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

-- Edward Snowden

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100% agree.

Also, I just recently teared up watching a particular TNG episode, so I got just as much too hide!

@Em0nM4stodon 👆🏻This.

@Em0nM4stodon secrecy and privacy are often mixed up.

Yes, if I want to hide something, then I want secrecy.

When I go to the bathroom, I'm not doing a secret thing, I'm doing a private thing.

@Em0nM4stodon I remember just trying to shop for an engagement ring and searching tips on how to do that whole stuff and that actually quite hard to do on a shared computer without my spouse being alerted about my plans due to targeted ads

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About that mole… what kind is it?. I hear that star nosed ones kind of tickle when they tuck in.

@Em0nM4stodon Why do you have curtains?

@Em0nM4stodon correct. And, 8712, and red.

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Repeat after me "Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I have nothing to fear, Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I have nothing to fear, Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I have nothing to fear"
@bortzmeyer

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puts me in mind of the Bruce Schneier blog.
Just as true today

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/05/the_value_of_pr.html

@Em0nM4stodon If you’re hiding the amount of cheese in your fridge I can already assume the answer is “none/not enough” ;)

And strong yes to this!

@Em0nM4stodon Bruce Schneier argued in a talk "exactly because I don't have nothing to hide I don't want you to spy on me" and that's my response ever since to that question.

@Em0nM4stodon 😁 👍

@Em0nM4stodon 👍👍👍 Private is what we don't want to share with the whole world. Secret is what we don't want to share with anyone. Privacy is the freedom to choose what we want to share.

@Em0nM4stodon “Having something to hide” ≠ “Not wanting people to snoop in when they feel like it”

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Some people in France have been charged of "terrorrist association" because they have Linux installed on their PCs, with storage encryption, and use ciphered communication means (Signal, etc).

Distopian, yes, sad, yes, but a true story.

@Em0nM4stodon inb4 having nothing to be guilty of and having nothing to hide aren't the same thing

if that was the case, then we would all be naked/wearing transpartent clothes in houses of glass...

@Em0nM4stodon I like signal but it suffers from several issues. The biggest is the network effect. Almost everyone I know uses something else and I haven’t been able to convince many to switch. Another one for me is there’s no backup on iPhone. I recently lost years of messages when I got my phone repaired specifically because there was no way to back them up.

@Em0nM4stodon the answer to "how much cheese there is in my fridge" is always "not enough".

@Em0nM4stodon I didn't tell anyone about the knitting... Oh wait, Your failed knitting experiment. Never mind, carry on!

@Em0nM4stodon hey! you have this mole too?

@Em0nM4stodon When people ask me that, I usually ask them if I can see their phone or computer, or if they can login to their bank account for me. When they say no, or when they pull their phone away when you go to the home screen and start launching apps, I ask them I thought they had nothing to hide. Some get it. Eventually. Others, sadly, don't get it. But I got a few people to suddenly "get it" that way.

@Em0nM4stodon lean into it. "I only do it because I know how much it irritates you"

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It's like "why do you send mail in opaque envelopes rather than as postcards: do you have something to hide?"

@Em0nM4stodon Wife: "Hey what was the password to X account again?"
Me: "Pull Signal up, I'll message it when I get to my phone."

@Em0nM4stodon Things are turning back to Pre-WWII and WWII ...
We all forgot one thing at someone eyes, we might not be perfect, sharing privacy or neglect privacy will lead to what happen in the past... witch hunt , character assassination , etc etc.
Unfortunalty we do not learn with our errors, we tend to recycle the bad things also from the past ...

Envy is a dangerous weapon ...

@Em0nM4stodon we are talking about the Vache qui rit (laughing cow) cheese on a Signal channel.
Is it subversive enough to be suit in court ?

@Em0nM4stodon - Still having nothing to hide doesn't justify corporations exploiting people's data for profit.

@Em0nM4stodon the last time someone tried this line of questioning on me I asked if they'd be willing to give me a copy of their browsing history. They got it pretty quickly after that.

@Em0nM4stodon My phone number for sure. So Telegram, Snapchat and Discord for me.
Signal and WhatsApp REALLY need to implement usernames...

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A classic "none of your damn business" situation

@Em0nM4stodon Very well said. Privacy is indeed a human right.

"Do you have anything to hide?" is a question I have never understood. Of course people are gonna have stuff to hide, specifically private and personal information that they want to keep private, to avoid being hacked or doxxed.

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When idiots ask me that, and several have, I just smile a little and say, "Yup".
Frustrates the hell out of them.

@Em0nM4stodon "the outcome of my last meal"? What does that mean? What *was* the outcome??
...oh no. You said you wanted to hide that.

@Em0nM4stodon ah! So you've got nothing to hide? Cool! So there's no issue in telling me your salary, your bank account access details and your email-password then.... Thank you!

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*that I voted against the last sherrif.

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My opinion: If you really want to protect your privacy, it is better to use MATRIX.
Same with fediverse and its Apps!

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- terrorists use encryption
- so why cars weren't banned after Nice?

@Em0nM4stodon It's weird how we have all sorts of privacy laws and people are usually very strict that nobody violates their privacy in any way, as in "real world", but then we go to internet, phone apps and so on.. 🤔

@Em0nM4stodon this! This should be the answer to all those simple minded folks who don't understand that privacy is a human right.

@Em0nM4stodon my stock response to "do you have anything to hide?" is "Once as a child I sent a drawing I did of some trees to my grandmother by post. I put it in an envelope not on the back of a postcard."

@Em0nM4stodon In the old days "none of your business" was a quite accepted response to an unfounded interrogation but over generations that's been bred out of the American population and massive friction for opt out is now the norm.

@Em0nM4stodon "Why do law-abiding citizens wish to use encryption?"

Because governments and their agencies have a long history of acting illegally and avoiding scrutiny - for instance, ANPR was introduced in the UK without parliamentary discussion/consent.

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The more i read it and I think ...

NOBODY should have a "main password" - BAD IDEA

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And the #French state is intending to #criminalize #encryption and "#ClandestineBehavior":

#8DecemberCase

https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110503083766962766

@Em0nM4stodon Countries threatening to ban E2EE are disgusting. It only shows even harder how bad some people want to get your private data, and how important encryption is to prevent them from doing so.

@Em0nM4stodon it’s absolutely no one’s business how much cheese there is in anyone’s fridge. But, a lot, isn’t a problem right?

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@atkelar

But not:

- my mobile telephone number

#privacy #encryption #e2ee #rootfore2ee

@Em0nM4stodon „I have nothing to hide, yet I still wear pants.“

@Em0nM4stodon Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
— Edward Snowden

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No, nothing of mine to hide, just *your* SSN, DOB, Mother's Maiden Name, first pet, first boss's name, PIN, who you lost your virginity to, The name of the brother that nobody told you about until your grandma slipped up and said "Tim", and that girl Anita that spent the summer at your house when you were 14 but nobody talks about it............

@Em0nM4stodon I use signal because I can enable disappearing messages, which adds a whole new memory game to my conversations!

Specifically: what the fuck was I just talking about?

@Em0nM4stodon I left the US and now I live in a country where privacy is a human right.

Lots of consequences. Your arrest and prison records are totally sealed. If you need to work with kids or money, you can get a certificate saying you have never committed crimes against children or breach of trust, but no one else can even ask. Surveillance cameras have strict limits, which are often ignored, but still.

It works well.

@Em0nM4stodon Whenever someone tells me they have nothing to hide, I ask them when I can come by and install a webcam in their bedroom. That usually shuts them up.

@Em0nM4stodon found this on Mastodon:

Shared by my Daughter
"I need privacy, not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgement and intentions are"

In response to "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear"

Source: https://infosec.exchange/@itisiboller/109472911587284824

@Em0nM4stodon I cried a lot watching las star wars to

@Em0nM4stodon Yes. Also the plan of Bella the cat to take over the world. She has plans for people that she would not want them to know. Long live Bella the cat.

@Em0nM4stodon good Points you mentioned there in the List! 👍😉