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tbonenina

@aut @Em0nM4stodon my response to that one is "Do you close the door to a public bathroom stall? Are you doing something 'wrong' behind a closed door? Or is privacy just a valid, human need?'

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Coo-Ops

@t60n3 @aut @Em0nM4stodon on this, if you haven't read up about it you should search "Jeremy Bentham panopticon" it is a good read. The gist of it is that prison inmates can be observed by a single guard without the inmates knowing they were being watched. The presence of the panopticon was said to have changed prisoner behaviour because they knew they could be watched at any moment, even without a guard present at all. Truly shocking when you consider that is happening in present day with backdoors and encryption busting.

@t60n3 @aut @Em0nM4stodon on this, if you haven't read up about it you should search "Jeremy Bentham panopticon" it is a good read. The gist of it is that prison inmates can be observed by a single guard without the inmates knowing they were being watched. The presence of the panopticon was said to have changed prisoner behaviour because they knew they could be watched at any moment, even without a guard present at all. Truly shocking when you consider that is happening in present day with backdoors...

tbonenina

@cooopsspace @aut @Em0nM4stodon Thanks for the recommendation! It's a bit of a straw man argument, but when discussing privacy I sometimes raise the observer effect in physics en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer to get folx thinking about how just the concept of being watched could have a physical reaction. Privacy and the right to not be observed may be larger and more complex than being perceived as doing something 'wrong' in a social/behavioural sense.

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