Gregory's Server@HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @hashtaggames
The sad part is you can export your instance data, but not upload it into a new instance. Insane!
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 @paul @david @HistoPol Meta isn't doing so well these days...SO they're going the old school Microsoft route of Embrace, Extend & Extinguish. Be wary. Hopefully they decide to play nice, but I suspect it's more subversion than anything. Jack Dorsey had plans like that too. I HOPE it leads to a real expansion of the fediverse, BUT I suspect this is a ploy to end it. Future Money incentivizes this move. @antonioserrata @paul @HistoPol Big Money never plays nice. We've already seen this scenario and we likely know how it will end before it begins! This is an open space by definition and they're going to sit down hard in it until they're satisfied they've drained all the value they can take with them.  @antonioserrata @david @HistoPol This reminds me of the murder of Usenet and the recurring attempted murder of RSS. @paul @antonioserrata @HistoPol I still mourn the loss of Google Reader. Feedly is a good replacement, though. @david @antonioserrata @HistoPol I use TheOldReader.com and have the app installed on my Android and even can post directly to Mastodon from within it. It is my godsend. @antonioserrata @paul @HistoPol There must be some idea of defense at play. There are smarter people than us in the Fediverse who must have anticipated this Big Money drop, right? @david @antonioserrata @paul @Gargron (2/2) ...technically and culturally annihilated, or rather, assimiliated by the #BorgSites. Ok, so I am not the only one thinking this! #EmbraceExtendExtinguish is the strategy, and thinking of the many other nice hardware and software technologies that were just acquired and then put into the locker is extensive. possibly: @HistoPol @paul @david I think it's important to take note which instances want to play ball with the broader fediverse and which want to destroy it. For instance a Mozilla and Vivaldi run instances are good and they don't have competing interests and seem to play ball with the rest of the Fediverse, Meta OTOH is an 800lb gorilla in a china shop with the same subtlety of corporate character, Zuckerberg has shown he lacks ANY ethics at all, so it behooves us to be VERY wary of intentions & action Completely agree. I think the #Unfriendlies are all going to be publicly listed companies on major stock exchanges. Presently, I only see #Meta and his #MegaInstances as instances which probably should be treated differently. WordPress is FOSS and Medium.com seems to be ok for now. @antonioserrata @HistoPol @paul I agree. His Metaverse is a complete failure, and he needs to find a new darling, and it appears Mastodon may just be the next thing for him to squeeze all the fun out of for profit. It makes the day gloomy thinking about it.  @david @antonioserrata @HistoPol @paul You can't monopolize an open-source project. @passthejoe @david @HistoPol @paul not the point, it’s about taxing the more limited resources of the fediverse to drown it in a way that takes it out of the competitive equation. It’s not about monopolizing, it’s about extinguishing the competition. Hence #EmbraceExtendExtinguish I was told that importing has been extensively discussed, but isn't really happening for a variety of reasons. Another person provided this link: Ok. I'm told the short answer importing isn't happening because it's a liability issue for Admins. Whatever that means. I've asked for the long answer. @david @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @hashtaggames "...but not upload it". I think I read that it is possible. Besides, with "software" anything is possible, in particular with #FOSS.--You just need to find one up-to-the-task programmer PO'ed enough that he solves that. It might not be available on all instances, though. @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @hashtaggames I just asked. I'll see what the answer is. I was told by my host that export is only there to satisfy GDPR requirements to "take your data with you" and that's where it begins and ends. Perfunctory in process only. @david @HistoPol Yes, I sent you several replies about it. It isn't going to happen officially in Mastodon. I read them as I was typing. I'm slower with my Parkinsons than people are with discussions and many times I am behind on the progress of the discussions. Got it! I'll remember that, thanks. Here's the long answer: Posts on one server may be fine, but importing them on another server might violate local laws due to hate speech, etc. Country to country, etc. That's the effect of the Fediverse: Not all local instance jurisdictions are created equal, so, no universal import option. Right now, an Admin can't take on the possible liability, but they're thinking about letting that happen in Mastodon itself. Ok, I can see that point. However, this will vary from country to country / jurisdiction to jurisdiction. This, in my understanding, is what the discussion about Section 230 is about in the US: "In the United States, companies that offer web hosting services are shielded from liability for most Yes, that's why there's such tight filtering on AI Image Bots. So many sick people out there trying to create all the wrong images. Could be said about #porn, in particular #bdsm and other "variants" as well. However, a fake video of #HunterBiden trying to shoot #TFG in the street might really be an issue on a whole other level. I recently listened to a #podcast on this. They can already fake any voice without it being detectable, provided that there is enough sample material. Deep fakes are real, and here -- and proving you didn't do it will increasingly become impossible. Not your posts -- your face and your voice! Where is Elon when we need cryptographic brain implants to sign our every thought? Facial and voice recognition would be even worse, due to #identitytheft Last year, I declined a good offer from a financial institution because I was only possible through video conferencing and authentication. No go for me. Nowadays, you cannot know what might be illegal next year. You should try to verify your identity with Facebook sometime. They want a photo. Dated paper with your signature. Code numbers on the paper. Government ID. And it's all verified by a Bot and if the Bot can't read all that, you can't get back on because there are no humans looking at anything unless it's a special circumstance. If that were be the case, I would not be posting anymore. At all. Hundreds of thousands of people have suffered data breaches at the big SM sites. If that info goes to a) authoritarian states or b) to (some) Red states and it is about abortion ...you are in really DEEP trouble. When #Elmo tried to localize me through emphatically requesting that I enter my phone number, I decided to stay #twitterbanned ABSOLUTE #dealbreaker IMHO. @david @HistoPol @paul I had an idea of turning TOTP into a kind of reality-proving mechanism for anti-deepfake videos. We use it for 2FA/MFA, but flipping it inside out it could be a mathematically derivable serial number that could prove reality and time stamp. But I’m just a nobody with a chatterbox brain, so pffft. ;) Sounds thrilling. But #DeepFakes are only my second concern. With the increasing number of authoritarian #GreatFirewall countries and the sell-out of customer data on the #BorgSites, I am more concerned about being identifiable and subject to profiling. These are good thoughts and really important conversations to have! @david @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @hashtaggames Let*s see. I also had (originally) thought about migrating my #Birdsite legacy here, but decided against it. Not for technical reasons, though. Converting the data should be feasible, with some effort. @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @hashtaggames I agree with you! I guess it depends where you live and what international laws are at play. I don't know how WordPress gets away with allowing imports, but such is life, I guess. |
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I read that is something they are working on. Not sure how advanced it is or how it will play out but it is being discussed, at least.