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Paul Chambers

@david @HistoPol

I read that is something they are working on. Not sure how advanced it is or how it will play out but it is being discussed, at least.

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David Boles

@paul @HistoPol

I'm on the Mastodon Discord server, I should ask.

HistoPol (#HP)

@david @paul

Please do. Actually, for me this would have been a dealbreaker to join #mas

I often put a lot of work in #threads and like to link back to them occasionally.
The instance issue being what it is, having a #migrate option for your toots is essential for me.

To hands in business suits shaking hands, the picture torn apart in the middle.

"Dealbreaker:
A specific issue or thing that will cause an agreement, deal, or relationship to fail or be terminated."
DELETED

@paul @david @HistoPol Meta isn't doing so well these days...SO they're going the old school Microsoft route of Embrace, Extend & Extinguish. Be wary. Hopefully they decide to play nice, but I suspect it's more subversion than anything. Jack Dorsey had plans like that too. I HOPE it leads to a real expansion of the fediverse, BUT I suspect this is a ploy to end it. Future Money incentivizes this move.

David Boles

@antonioserrata @paul @HistoPol

Big Money never plays nice. We've already seen this scenario and we likely know how it will end before it begins!

This is an open space by definition and they're going to sit down hard in it until they're satisfied they've drained all the value they can take with them.

Paul Chambers replied to DELETED

@antonioserrata @david @HistoPol

This reminds me of the murder of Usenet and the recurring attempted murder of RSS.

David Boles replied to Paul

@paul @antonioserrata @HistoPol

I still mourn the loss of Google Reader.

Feedly is a good replacement, though.

Paul Chambers replied to David

@david @antonioserrata @HistoPol

I use TheOldReader.com and have the app installed on my Android and even can post directly to Mastodon from within it.

It is my godsend.

DELETED replied to Paul

@paul @david @HistoPol Commercial entities are incentivized to kill off anything that's competition at all costs. So yea they're gonna do that to the fediverse if allowed to encroach without any guard rails (if allowed at all to engage with it).

David Boles replied to DELETED

@antonioserrata @paul @HistoPol

There must be some idea of defense at play. There are smarter people than us in the Fediverse who must have anticipated this Big Money drop, right?

HistoPol (#HP) replied to David

@david @antonioserrata @paul

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Most certainly.

But, as in most cases, maybe except for some smaller instances, did they really do anything about it.

I think this issue of #BarbarianInvasions of commercial proprietary social-media sites through #ActivityPub is important enough to involve @Gargron.

To repeat my stance, as I do not see a feasible solution for limiting the influx of #Metas #DefederateMeta
Offer them some "easy sign-on", limited in daily number, so the #Fediverse is not...

@david @antonioserrata @paul

(1/2)

Most certainly.

But, as in most cases, maybe except for some smaller instances, did they really do anything about it.

I think this issue of #BarbarianInvasions of commercial proprietary social-media sites through #ActivityPub is important enough to involve @Gargron.

HistoPol (#HP) replied to HistoPol

@david @antonioserrata @paul @Gargron

(2/2)

...technically and culturally annihilated, or rather, assimiliated by the #BorgSites.

#DefederateMeta

HistoPol (#HP)

@antonioserrata @paul @david

Ok, so I am not the only one thinking this!

#EmbraceExtendExtinguish is the strategy, and thinking of the many other nice hardware and software technologies that were just acquired and then put into the locker is extensive.

#DefederateMeta

possibly:
#DefederateMegaInstances to come.

DELETED replied to HistoPol

@HistoPol @paul @david I think it's important to take note which instances want to play ball with the broader fediverse and which want to destroy it. For instance a Mozilla and Vivaldi run instances are good and they don't have competing interests and seem to play ball with the rest of the Fediverse, Meta OTOH is an 800lb gorilla in a china shop with the same subtlety of corporate character, Zuckerberg has shown he lacks ANY ethics at all, so it behooves us to be VERY wary of intentions & action

HistoPol (#HP) replied to DELETED

@antonioserrata @paul @david

Completely agree.

I think the #Unfriendlies are all going to be publicly listed companies on major stock exchanges. Presently, I only see #Meta and his #MegaInstances as instances which probably should be treated differently.

WordPress is FOSS and Medium.com seems to be ok for now.

David Boles replied to DELETED

@antonioserrata @HistoPol @paul

I agree. His Metaverse is a complete failure, and he needs to find a new darling, and it appears Mastodon may just be the next thing for him to squeeze all the fun out of for profit. It makes the day gloomy thinking about it.

DELETED replied to Steven

@passthejoe @david @HistoPol @paul not the point, it’s about taxing the more limited resources of the fediverse to drown it in a way that takes it out of the competitive equation. It’s not about monopolizing, it’s about extinguishing the competition. Hence #EmbraceExtendExtinguish

DELETED replied to DELETED

@passthejoe @david @HistoPol @paul this tactic has worked where the competition couldn’t be bought. However if handled right and guard rails against their anticipated abuse comes, fediverse will be just fine.

David Boles

@paul @HistoPol

I was told that importing has been extensively discussed, but isn't really happening for a variety of reasons.

Another person provided this link:

github.com/mastodon/mastodon/i

HistoPol (#HP)

@david

Thanks, I will look into this.
I know that there is no automatic follower migration.

@paul

David Boles

@paul @HistoPol

Ok. I'm told the short answer importing isn't happening because it's a liability issue for Admins.

Whatever that means.

I've asked for the long answer.

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