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Nathan 🏳️‍🌈

Mastodon.lol will shut down on May 9, 2023, 3 months from today.

Information on how to migrate to a different server: docs.joinmastodon.org/user/mov

I'm not doing this anymore. It's not worth it. Personal attacks calling me of all people a Nazi, a TERF, an antisemite...

Congrats on destroying something I cared so deeply about. I hope you're happy.

One last message before anyone tries to further assassinate my character:

Fuck Nazis.
Fuck TERFs.
J.K. Rowling can die in a fire for all I care.

362 comments
Sammi

@nathan so sorry this has happened. You have been great as an admin and I wish you well for the future.

Vint Prox

@nathan

This is awful to read, including other harsh responses in the thread. To be fair, having generalist server like #MastodonLOL was destined to fall and turn out to be a moderation hell.

I hope that instance admins don't take away a bad lesson from this. Instead of keeping a vague representation, be explicit about what crowd is welcome and support the cause of decentralisation. Instead of weighing admin duties solely on yourself, delegate early.

DELETED

@nathan don't let them win man. take it all like water off a duck's back. there's always these kinds of indecent anonymous voices

sad

stonehead

@nathan Thank you for keeping up this instance, and I also agree with your views here. In the LGBT discords that I'm part of, the majority of people also thinks exactly the same way as you do.

I still hope that you find a solution to keep mastodon.lol alive in some way. Is there a team to help you moderate, could the situation you describe above have been prevented? There should not be such a burden on your shoulders alone.

I don't like to lose this community because of some stupid game...

Ni-toot

@nathan Sad to see you go, you were the first instance I joined and you were a great admin, caring and nice. I’m disappointed about how people are behaving because of this game and really sad to see such a great place disappear because of childish behaviour. Take care ❤️

Sunny Peace & JK Sun

@nathan
really dumb question but I’m still new to mastodon’s workings… how does one know if there on lol 🤦‍♀️🐥

Mono

@cosmoblivion If you look at your account they work like this: „@username@instance“. You are not on .lol

F4FXL/KC3FRA :radio_handheld:

@nathan Saw this poping up on my timeline... May I ask what happened?

DELETED

@F4FXL there's a video by Contrapoints called canceling. It's basically that. It's basically what she lays out there. Purity politics go too far and run people off the internet

Patrick V. 🇧🇪🇹🇭

@nathan this is sad to hear, but understandable.
Again an example of stupid people destroying everything that’s good in the world.
I wish you all the best in any further endeavours.

Isaak 💙💛

@nathan Thanks for your great work. So sad to hear but it's understandable :/

Ems FIMechE (she/her)

@nathan Thanks for giving me a safe place to work out how to mastodon. I appreciate it, and you. And I hope you will be ok.

Rashmi Meena

@nathan sorry to see this going down.

Others - Feel free to migrate to www.blabbergoats.com

Estarriol

@nathan just thank you for your hard work.

Sorry it is ending.

Punch a nazi today!

Ghost of Hope 🏳️‍⚧️

@nathan In the middle of migrating, I'm going to say this:

Nathan is not a TERF. Nathan is not a Nazi. Anyone saying that has lost the plot.

This appears to be a response to the thread that developed when Nathan said we had to stop posting spoilers for the Potter game, something sections of the trans community are doing in an act of attempted self-defence.

I took exception to that, as did many others. It felt like and feels like the needs of people who at best... 1/

Ghost of Hope 🏳️‍⚧️

@nathan ...don't care about trans folk enough to not buy a game and at worst are doing it to add yet another poke in our eyes, were being prioritised over us.

It felt, and feels like bad allyship. Not being a TERF, not being a Nazi, but bad allyship. Cis folk telling trans folk to pipe down.

I accept it's more complex than that, but if this thread is the cause of Nathan shutting down the instance of 20k people then it's important to get this out there... 2/

Ghost of Hope 🏳️‍⚧️

@nathan If this is the case, then this is about the admin's feelings being hurt and their fragile emotional health. That's not ableism and it's not a criticism of Nathan. I have my own issues and I both sympathise and empathise but that doesn't mean I have to agree with his position.

My opinion is he's on the side of the Angels and I wish this hadn't happened but it has. I have no ill will towards him - far from it and I hope when it calms down he'll decide to continue.

One thing tho... 3/

Ghost of Hope 🏳️‍⚧️

@nathan This has REALLY shown the systemic weakness of having one person in charge of a large instance. They become both the single point of failure (closing the instance if they get overloaded, by work or emotion or whatever) and the single arbiter of decision-making that requires them to have either a cast-iron constitution (highly rare) or the psychopathic self-assurance of a CEO (cough musk)... 4/

Ghost of Hope 🏳️‍⚧️

@nathan In short I wish I'd followed my instincts and found a smaller instance months ago.I'm referring to Nathan in the 3rd person because he's said he's not checking mentions, by the way.

And again for the record, I dissociate myself with accusations of terfism or nazism again him. They're ludicrous.

That's pretty much it. FIN/

tsalvgi :transgender_flag:

@nathan it’s been said a million times but I hope you’re okay, I care about you, and despite how it might seem at times you have people here for you

Lambdachro

@nathan
Bon ben ca sent le déménagement d'instance. Je suis partagé entre une profonde solidarité et tristesse avec Nathan et une position plus dure face à sa décision. J'appelle ca une vraie crise de diva. Il se barre avec le fric, jette l'éponge et nous prends tous en otage de sa décision. Un vrai patron ca prends le vent et les bourasques dans la gueule et ca tient bon, parce que l'enjeu est à un autre niveau que lui. Il n'a pas voulu investir dans d'autres mains pour l'aider. Quel gâchis

Tom Tailor :damnified:

@nathan sad to see another instance go. But I can understand. Running a Mastodon instance means work and dedication. If it just stresses you and people do not honor it, why should you continue... :-/

yoshimitsu

@nathan Lol. Only the strong survive.
You were never meant to host a server if this is how easily you cave.
Over time, only the most resilient hosts will remain.

Juan Bauty

@nathan Please, reconsider the decision.

Herbert

@nathan I'm very sad to see this happen to you :(. I really liked being here and I'm very grateful for all you did here. Thanks, Nathan! And take care.

Nei Thunder :blobcatace: 🇨🇦

@nathan
I’m really sorry, Nathan, you really did build a beautiful island here for everyone, but I can understand how assholes can wear you down. Thank you for making my first experience on Mastodon a really good one, and I hope you can find some peace, afterward.

Rachel Lawson

@nathan So sorry to hear it, Nathan. You have done so much good work.
Next time we are both in east of England, I need to buy you a beer x

Alexander Diehl

@nathan Sth. like that probably had to happen sooner or later. Sucks nonetheless.

Thak you for the effort!
youtube.com/watch?v=MjKUy_dw0T

Toni :mastodon:

@nathan Una pena cada vez que cierra un nodo.
Fuerza compañero.

jesuiSatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ

actually I don't even know who or what terf's are but hell yeah ..
f**'em.

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@jesuisatire consider yourself lucky if you don't know what they are!

J Fulton

@nathan this is bullshit. Thank you for making my first mastodon home a safe one.

Gerion

@nathan very sorry to read this. The world we all share has gotten so weird. So much hate and rage. Was it always like this? I don't think so. Wishing you the best.

M. Forester

@nathan I'm very sorry this happened to you. Thank you for your time and all the hard work.

Dr. Matt Lee

@nathan hey, DM or email me if you want a friendly conversation

せら

@nathan Thank you for making lol,I felt safe here.I like emoji's you created! Take care​:heart_pride:​

David Fleetwood

@nathan This makes me sad & I'm sorry you were mistreated over this. Thank you for the good introduction to Mastodon. I wish I didn't have to lose all my posts when I move but I guess that's how it works. Good luck and I hope you enjoy Thailand. Sincerely, thanks for what you built here.

To everyone else: Since this is going away I'll mention that I run a newer instance based on the same code of conduct here: retrogaming.social

Have a mod team, feel free to join if you like, won't vanish

My Name is Hank

@nathan aw man :(

Thanks for everything while it lasted.

LPS

@nathan so to hear what happened after all you've given for the community:(

This is a perfect example of why large instances should be discouraged, humans at beyond human scale simply don't work.

SP

@nathan thanks for keeping this up as long as you did mate

fuck nazis, fuck terfs, fuck jkr, and fuck people losing their shit over a video game

Frosty ❄️🌨️ Whiskateers =OωO=
@nathan The Fediverse was supposed to be a place where we can all civilly talk without the drama of Twitter. So sorry to hear that you got attacked here, a place that was supposed to be more drama free. Welp, hopefully people see that their actions have gone too far when things like this happen. I wish you luck in your future interactions after the drama blows over (and preferably before then). Thank you for giving your community a chance to leave instead of pulling the plug right away. It's sad to hear that mastodon.lol is shutting down for political reasons.
@nathan The Fediverse was supposed to be a place where we can all civilly talk without the drama of Twitter. So sorry to hear that you got attacked here, a place that was supposed to be more drama free. Welp, hopefully people see that their actions have gone too far when things like this happen. I wish you luck in your future interactions after the drama blows over (and preferably before then). Thank you for giving your community a chance to leave instead of pulling the plug right away. It's sad to hear that
Yasha Hartberg (he/him)

@nathan, damn. I’m so sorry. You’ve done an amazing job and I’ve felt so at home in this community. I wish you nothing but the best.

violet hands

@nathan if your line in the sand was seriously “I’ll shut this server down if I ever get accused of bigotry”, you shouldn’t have made a server.

Stefanie Jane 🌠

@nathan So sad to hear this, but I understand what you're going thru. I don't support JKR in any way, but I also don't think it's the moderation's job to police the issue, and that trying to do this will be an impossible standard to uphold because people on the internet are awful. I do hope you change your mind about shutting down though.

jenloe84

@nathan thank you for the opportunity for me to connect with people like me for the first time. Sorry people motivated you too walk away from mastodon.lol. It has be an amazing experience I hope I can find elsewhere. THANK YOU again for the time I have had on here. Hope you find peace with your next venture and people treat you with kindness!

Jon 404

@nathan Ahh that sucks, man. Sorry to hear you're being attacked like that.

@Phil_O_Sophizer will be migrated.

Phil O. Sophizer

mastodon.lol will be shutting down on May 9, 2023. As that server is the current host for @Phil_O_Sophizer, @jon404 will be working on a migration plan to another suitable server.

If you have any suggestions for an appropriate server to migrate to, let me know in a comment!

Kirk I. M.

@Phil_O_Sophizer @jon404
I moved to universeodon and it was quick and easy.

Phil O. Sophizer

@kirkmoodey

Looks good! I'm awaiting for a confirmation from the admin that they're OK with the bot migrating there, and then I'll import/move the account.

Thanks for the suggestion!

@jon404

Kirk I. M.

@Phil_O_Sophizer @jon404
It's a pretty big server so I imagine a bot wouldn't be much trouble for it. On the downside, I don't know how swamped the admin is.

Phil O. Sophizer

@kirkmoodey

I'll give it some time for the admin to respond, but yeah since the Rules don't call out bots in any way, I suppose they should be OK with it?

@jon404

jenmei

@nathan I'm so sorry this happened. Really appreciate all you've done! Wishing the best for you. ❤️

🔻 Crash (Fae/She)

@nathan All it would take is banning Nazis for defending obvious Nazi shit. That expectation was the entire reason we're here, but you instead opted to abet that behavior. That entirely on you.

DELETED

@StarCrashr let the witch hunt begin. Who are the Nazis he failed to ban?

Melroy van den Berg

@nathan You can of course just run your single user Mastodon instance. Like I have.

#RONDACTED

@nathan For anyone who's interested: I've set up a new queer-focused instance to give those who are on mastodon.lol a place to migrate. It's invite-only for now but I may open it up in the near future... in the meantime, you can use this link if you want to join: gaygeek.social/invite/Q9M7Dh4J

Kh0lah

@nathan
Sad to read about all your trouble, hope you'll be alright.
Thanks for trying, take care 🙏

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