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We've received more offers to acquire our platform/assets.

We belong to the people.

Our Kickstarter is launching soon, help us prove that we, the people, can build healthy and vibrant communities, without being controlled by vested interests who don't share our values.

Recent events have proved how vital these open and federated platforms are, help us continue building for the people.

Spread the word ✨

kickstarter.com/projects/pixel

96 comments
Rury

@pixelfed how can I help? I will donate but I would like to also help with programming. Where are you guys at?

Shell :fedora:

@rurywilliams

github.com/pixelfed

The current web version is made with laravel blade (I think?) but a new web UI with nuxt is being worked on here:
github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed-n

There's also the mobile app which is written in react native:
github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed-r

Rury

@shellheim oh thanks! that's perfect! I would have learned laravel but I already know Nuxt and react native

Shell :fedora:

@rurywilliams Welcome! I want to learn react native as well but my semesters are coming up :|

Rury

@shellheim It is not that hard tbh. I have a lot of spare time at work and my boss allows me to contribute to open source code when I am idle!

Shell :fedora:

@rurywilliams I already know some react, I'll try to pick up rn in february. And you've got a great boss! :)

Shell :fedora:

@rurywilliams btw, the nuxt repo is pretty much empty right now, from @dansup's posts you can see that he's done a lot of work but he hasn't committed that yet.

Marcus Richter

@pixelfed Is there a governance structure in place or will there be one in the near future? (Akin to the non-profit organization that is planned for Mastodon?)

Mikaleb

@pixelfed ads is not that bad if you don't get enough from ks

Adrian

@elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed that's true but everybody wants something for free. As long as ads aren't using mined meta data I find them a tolerable alternative to subscriptions.

El Duvelle

@acs Maybe, but again, nobody here wants ads. The clearest advantage of this place over all the for-profit ones is that it has no ads and I hope it stays like that for ever.

Also, it's not that we need ads, there are other ways to support our instances, like donations, contributing some time, funding by grants or other no-strings-attached sources.

The attention-sucking, consumerist, privacy-invading ad system that people are getting so used to is not the only way to go!

@Mikaleb
@pixelfed

@acs Maybe, but again, nobody here wants ads. The clearest advantage of this place over all the for-profit ones is that it has no ads and I hope it stays like that for ever.

Also, it's not that we need ads, there are other ways to support our instances, like donations, contributing some time, funding by grants or other no-strings-attached sources.

Fa

@elduvelle @acs @Mikaleb @pixelfed Agreed. I'm willing to pay to have ads stay the hell away from me

Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@acs @elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed

So you won’t kick in say $5 to keep the place free from the fast track to fascistic influence?

Advertising is built on the same foundation as propaganda. And the propagandists have been exploiting that infra for decades.

Mikaleb

@Aphrodite @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed making the platform non free is a tad antidémocratic don't you think?

Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@Mikaleb @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed

I support my admins.

I chip in €20 every few months to help with ops and upkeep.

Not everyone does.

Not everyone is expected to.

That’s democratic.

If next week I were to kick in €10k, I would be doing so only to help those who can’t contribute to the care and feeding of my instance. That’s democratic.

If I kicked in €10k so that my voice would be amplified and so that I could control what others see, that’s authoritarian.

Mikaleb

@Aphrodite @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed but if you exclude de facto people who can't pay, you eliminate their voice. That's why my original take was that if participating is not enough, random ads can be good enough, solving the funding problem and the targeted ads

El Duvelle

@Mikaleb Nobody said those who can't pay are excluded... You pay if you can

@Aphrodite @acs @pixelfed

Scratchy

@Mikaleb
Thank you. I appreciate you stepping up. I try to be consistent with Mother Jones and Wikipedia. All of this commotion highlights my means and the choices I have to make everyday. Vulture capitalists' have so much privilege they waste it on renaming landmarks and idle threats confused with NOT-so-idle-threats. The cost of doing business.

I feel like chump change for their coffers.

So thanks. This platform matters to me.

Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@Mikaleb @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed

Where did I say that anyone was excluded?

Don’t put words in my mouth. And don’t read words that aren’t there.

EaterOfSnacks

@Mikaleb @Aphrodite @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed I can't pay at the moment and nobody makes me feel excluded. I'll pay when I can.

BBonkers

@acs @elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed

I don't think it's possible to serve an ad in 2025 that DOESN't mine metadata. Maybe I'm wrong.

Adrian

@bbonkers @elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed perhaps not automatically. However if I tell you about my hypothetical new bike and all is great features is would probably appear to be advertising but I wouldn't be mining you. Similarly if an instance took commercial sponsorship and publicly stated that they had done so.

@pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS

@elduvelle Some of us don’t care as long as the app can’t be sold. @Mikaleb @pixelfed

Mark C. Hunter (VO1BS/VO1MCH)

@pixelfed where are your servers physically located?

Edit1: Let me rephrase, where is the pixelfed.social server located?
Edit2: Where are all the servers listed here pixelfed.org/servers physically located?
Edit3: Traceroute command seems to give me the last IP address for the route to pixelfed.social being in California and the last IP address for pixelfed.de, being, naturally, in Germany.

jalict

@mhunter709 @pixelfed

Sorry if you might already be aware, but!

Pixelfed can be hosted anywhere you want it to be, it is like Mastodon where everyone can host their own instance. Hence the "federated" part.

There is no "official" server.

Jiko Rojino

@jalict @mhunter709 @pixelfed

Location of the PixelFed servers? It depends.

Pixelfed.social (USA) 140k MAU
Pixelfed.de (Germany) 16k MAU
Pixelfed.uno (Germany) 3k MAU
Pxlmo.com (USA) 2k MAU
Gram.social (Germany) 5k MAU
Pixelfed.tokyo (Japan) 1k MAU
Pixelfed.fr (Germany) 3k MAU
Metapixl.com (Finland) 674 MAU

fedidb.org/software/pixelfed

@jalict @mhunter709 @pixelfed

Location of the PixelFed servers? It depends.

Pixelfed.social (USA) 140k MAU
Pixelfed.de (Germany) 16k MAU
Pixelfed.uno (Germany) 3k MAU
Pxlmo.com (USA) 2k MAU
Gram.social (Germany) 5k MAU
Pixelfed.tokyo (Japan) 1k MAU
Pixelfed.fr (Germany) 3k MAU
Metapixl.com (Finland) 674 MAU

Mark C. Hunter (VO1BS/VO1MCH)

@jalict @pixelfed Let me rephrase, where is the pixelfed.social server located?

Invisible Marcel 🌀 on the 'don

@mhunter709 @pixelfed wherever they're hosted. You can host your own Pixelfed server.

Scuttlebutt

@mhunter709 @pixelfed It's behind a cloud flare proxy, so where the servers physically are is anyone's guess. I would hope that @dansup would choose hosting in Canada for pixelfed.social but of course cost would be a main driver in that decision.

Sixtyforce

@pixelfed Be cool for Edmonton to be known for something again. *looks at Bioware* ...uh, something good.

notsoloud

@pixelfed
More to the point, even if you sold out, the network would go on without you.

MntyFrsh

@pixelfed I wonder if these people or companies who keep trying to acquire Pixelfed realize that they could just create their own Pixelfed server.

Sim

@mntyfrsh @pixelfed in many cases like that, the companies don't buy the product, they buy the userbase.

MntyFrsh

@0xSim @pixelfed True... These folks don't seem like the type to want to start from scratch.

Jürgen Hubert

@mntyfrsh @pixelfed

Yes, but if they only own a particular instance, then how could they do a proper #Enshittification cycle for this whole product? 🧐

Vivvy50s

@pixelfed is there a guide for pixelfed for the non-tech savvy? On eg how to choose instance?

Jonas R. (er/ihm)

@Vivvy50s
Choose an instance with moderations rules that suit you; maybe also with a main language that you understand. If you're looking for a pixelfed server dedicated to specific topics (art or adult stuff), there aren't many so far, AFAIK.
pixelfed.org/servers

#FediHelp #FediTips #Pixelfed

@pixelfed

matidmgdef

@pixelfed At the end you need to find a way to monetize it to wrap it up around a reliable organisation. Sorry not to be deluded

Andrzej Lichnerowicz

@pixelfed any way to still get an account, or will it now be only available to backers? I've signed up a week ago without any followup to both loops and pixelfed.art and not sure what's the status.

Simon

@unjello

Hello Pixelfed is free. Just log on pick a server and enjoy.

@pixelfed

Andrzej Lichnerowicz

@simondoestweets @pixelfed hmm… it told me that I need to wait for moderators to accessor, and the nick is indeed taken if I try to register again on that server, but cannot log in 🤷‍♂️

Phoenix Paulina Schmid

@unjello Even if that's the case could you host an own instance or join one of the already existing ones like pixel.tchncs.de or gram.social.

John Breen

@pixelfed Let's work on that kickstarter/Mastodon integration. From a browser, I clicked the link, wanted to be notified when the kickstarter opens, and it asks me if I want to login with Google or Apple or email 😭
But I do look forward to trying out and supporting pixelfed !

silentsnake09

@pixelfed Great news! Let’s also get a dark them for iOS app!

RejZoR

@pixelfed You can tell them they can sponsor things by donating.

DELETED

@pixelfed I will give to the Kickstarter. We need apps for the ppl, by the ppl. No oligarch billionaires allowed unless they want to kick in to the Kickstarter. We don't want or need their input or influence. We just need their money.

Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@pixelfed

Name and shame.

They want to operate in the shadows. Force sunlight upon them.

John Mierau

@pixelfed please tell me more about the Pixelfed Foundation.

Where can I find info about its bylaws, members?

Son Link :firedoge: 🐧

@pixelfed 🎶 Peaple have the power, Peaple have the paaaweer....🎶

Scratchy

@pixelfed

EW.

Does anyone remember "Freehand" illustration software. No. Adobe bought it and put it in a closet.

#enshittification
#FreeMarket
#GOPValues

Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )

@pixelfed Kickstarted though is proprietary. SOMEBODY MAKE A #FEDIVERSE KICKSTARTED be fully LIBRE.

wraptile

@pixelfed excited to back the kickstarter and I hope people put their money where their mouth Is for once 😤

Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )

@pixelfed Petitions? As in reverse crowd funding? As in, you know, this: blenderdumbass.org/petitions

TeacherTom

@pixelfed I just signed up for the Kickstarter notification.

Also, thank you for fixing my Loops login problem. :)

kel

@pixelfed

Please put up a web page for all people who want to make offers... a form to fill out and a payment processor - for the non-refundable buy out application processing fee of $10,000 per entry.

stux⚡

@pixelfed Funny how they keep trying huh! :bloblaugh:

I started ignoring those mails a long time ago 💪

Senna 🌿

@pixelfed what will the money be used to do, other than pay for infrastructure? Is there a plan to fund work on specific features? What about paying other people to work on the project? The kickstarter page doesn't offer any insight to these questions.

Rodolfo Berrios

@pixelfed Got about 4 buy offers per year, you will get used.

AskPippa🇨🇦

@pixelfed Would there be an advantage or protection if you registered it (or part of it) as a non-prof? Just wondering, I don't know.

Scott M. Stolz
@AskPippa🇨🇦
Would there be an advantage or protection if you registered it (or part of it) as a non-prof? Just wondering, I don't know.

Non-profit would not matter, except for issues of taxation. Instead, many organizations place restrictions within the Charter or Articles of Incorporation or Articles of Association or Article of Organization. These restrictions prohibit certain behaviors and activities. Also, many organization prohibit the sale of the organization and its assets to another organization that does not have the same restrictions. That way the board can't sell off the assets to avoid the restrictions.

@AskPippa🇨🇦 @Daniel Supernault
@AskPippa🇨🇦
Would there be an advantage or protection if you registered it (or part of it) as a non-prof? Just wondering, I don't know.

Non-profit would not matter, except for issues of taxation. Instead, many organizations place restrictions within the Charter or Articles of Incorporation or Articles of Association or Article of Organization. These restrictions prohibit certain behaviors and activities....
Kenneth M Sweeney

@pixelfed I downloaded the app and registered but when I try to login I get this message. Also, there are so many servers, which one do I choose?

S. D. aka "Sabri"

@pixelfed Are there any other ways to donate besides Kickstarter? just wondering! i love the platform and want to support :)

Greg Johnston

@pixelfed Wish you could get it working smoothly, often can't get on and when I do usually sluggish. I post things there that will not appear on Masto. Seems full of glitches. Done posting there until things smooth out. Do support you though and hope you get it sorted.

Estarriol, Cat owned Dragon

@pixelfed they are worried you are gaining traction and costing them customers. watch for an avalanch of dcma takedown notices on no grounds but the hope you cannot afford to risk fighting them.

David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

@pixelfed Have you considered creating a limited company that doesn't own anything of value but looks as if it does, getting half a billion in VC money, donating it all to the Pixelfed Foundation, and then having the LLC declare bankruptcy?

anonymouspl

@pixelfed these posts sound a little bit like blackmail to me. You either support us or we sell. I believe you deserve some financial support and stuff but giving money to non profit organisation that owns Pixelfed would be a little bit more welcoming for me. Did you think about creating such foundation with a little bit more distributed ownership which would ensure that Pixelfed will not be sold to VC even if one persons opinion (eg. danesup) changes?

nev

just a quick reminder to anyone seeing this that it's been less than a month since the lead dev used the official account to boost his long, cringily appropriated-Black-American-English, now deleted trying-to-be-a-"they-can't-keep-us-down"-rap-song rant (he is neither American nor Black) apparently relating to a dispute about potential in-app ads with a sometime contributor (social.besties.house/@h/113730) who is like, 18? also did not react well to being (gently) called out (by another fedi dev, not some random) about said language use. and probably less than a month before he was Not Making Friends by being all like "i'm progressive BUT fuck the postal strike" (you haven't heard about it because it was in canada sorry)

so personally i would hold off on any significant public or financial support for pixelfed until the project gets some actual governance where it's not just one emotionally immature guy having the keys???

also just in case this is relevant everyone involved is extremely queer and gay. him, the devs, me.

#FediMeta

just a quick reminder to anyone seeing this that it's been less than a month since the lead dev used the official account to boost his long, cringily appropriated-Black-American-English, now deleted trying-to-be-a-"they-can't-keep-us-down"-rap-song rant (he is neither American nor Black) apparently relating to a dispute about potential in-app ads with a sometime contributor (social.besties.house/@h/113730) who is like, 18? also did not react well to being (gently) called out (by...

Jeremy Robert Bell

@pixelfed If you need to, I’d rather have ads than corporate ownership and an unfederated platform. Just please no tracking/targeting. Let us choose our ad categories.

mel0dy

@pixelfed Ça c'est une plateforme qui a du potentiel

Tiggy

@pixelfed

I logged in on the site OK, but it won't accept my card details.

MichaelM

@pixelfed @catsalad do you see that you are the profile in their Kickstarter? It tracks because you are one of the four people I follow on Loops so far.

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