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Mikaleb

@pixelfed ads is not that bad if you don't get enough from ks

21 January at 7:58 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social
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El Duvelle
Adrian

@elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed that's true but everybody wants something for free. As long as ads aren't using mined meta data I find them a tolerable alternative to subscriptions.

21 January at 11:44 | Open on mastodon.scot
El Duvelle

@acs Maybe, but again, nobody here wants ads. The clearest advantage of this place over all the for-profit ones is that it has no ads and I hope it stays like that for ever.

Also, it's not that we need ads, there are other ways to support our instances, like donations, contributing some time, funding by grants or other no-strings-attached sources.

The attention-sucking, consumerist, privacy-invading ad system that people are getting so used to is not the only way to go!

@Mikaleb
@pixelfed

@acs Maybe, but again, nobody here wants ads. The clearest advantage of this place over all the for-profit ones is that it has no ads and I hope it stays like that for ever.

Also, it's not that we need ads, there are other ways to support our instances, like donations, contributing some time, funding by grants or other no-strings-attached sources.

21 January at 11:51 | Open on neuromatch.social
Fa

@elduvelle @acs @Mikaleb @pixelfed Agreed. I'm willing to pay to have ads stay the hell away from me

21 January at 13:42 | Open on mastodon.art
Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@acs @elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed

So you won’t kick in say $5 to keep the place free from the fast track to fascistic influence?

Advertising is built on the same foundation as propaganda. And the propagandists have been exploiting that infra for decades.

21 January at 12:40 | Open on chaos.social
Mikaleb

@Aphrodite @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed making the platform non free is a tad antidémocratic don't you think?

21 January at 12:43 | Open on mastodon.social
Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@Mikaleb @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed

I support my admins.

I chip in €20 every few months to help with ops and upkeep.

Not everyone does.

Not everyone is expected to.

That’s democratic.

If next week I were to kick in €10k, I would be doing so only to help those who can’t contribute to the care and feeding of my instance. That’s democratic.

If I kicked in €10k so that my voice would be amplified and so that I could control what others see, that’s authoritarian.

21 January at 12:46 | Open on chaos.social
Mikaleb

@Aphrodite @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed but if you exclude de facto people who can't pay, you eliminate their voice. That's why my original take was that if participating is not enough, random ads can be good enough, solving the funding problem and the targeted ads

21 January at 12:48 | Open on mastodon.social
El Duvelle

@Mikaleb Nobody said those who can't pay are excluded... You pay if you can

@Aphrodite @acs @pixelfed

21 January at 12:50 | Open on neuromatch.social
Scratchy

@Mikaleb
Thank you. I appreciate you stepping up. I try to be consistent with Mother Jones and Wikipedia. All of this commotion highlights my means and the choices I have to make everyday. Vulture capitalists' have so much privilege they waste it on renaming landmarks and idle threats confused with NOT-so-idle-threats. The cost of doing business.

I feel like chump change for their coffers.

So thanks. This platform matters to me.

21 January at 13:25 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org
Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:

@Mikaleb @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed

Where did I say that anyone was excluded?

Don’t put words in my mouth. And don’t read words that aren’t there.

21 January at 14:54 | Open on chaos.social
EaterOfSnacks

@Mikaleb @Aphrodite @acs @elduvelle @pixelfed I can't pay at the moment and nobody makes me feel excluded. I'll pay when I can.

21 January at 19:43 | Open on tilde.zone
Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok:
BBonkers

@acs @elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed

I don't think it's possible to serve an ad in 2025 that DOESN't mine metadata. Maybe I'm wrong.

21 January at 15:13 | Open on mastodon.social
Adrian

@bbonkers @elduvelle @Mikaleb @pixelfed perhaps not automatically. However if I tell you about my hypothetical new bike and all is great features is would probably appear to be advertising but I wouldn't be mining you. Similarly if an instance took commercial sponsorship and publicly stated that they had done so.

21 January at 16:08 | Open on mastodon.scot
@pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS

@elduvelle Some of us don’t care as long as the app can’t be sold. @Mikaleb @pixelfed

21 January at 13:14 | Open on masto.ai
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