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Hannu Ikonen

Listening to true crime cases from the 80s that "D&D Satanism scare" was some wild shit.

Was everywhere, propagated by sheriffs, detectives, unquestioning media, & the in-person equivalent of your out there Facebook relative.

Normies been fucked up about a lot of things for a long time.

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MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

@hannu_ikonen I'm sure you know about the West Texas 3 but if you don't, watch the doc - it's fucking INSANE.

Hannu Ikonen

Which brings me to the NIAID political hack normie so-called doctor equating mask hesitancy to acknowledging trauma:

ohai.social/@thatkatharine/113

Mask / covid denial is the **OPPOSITE** of acknowledgment.

Denial is what you seek to create around you, not a safe space for trauma therapy.

Fuck.

Outta.

Here with that bullshit.

Hannu Ikonen

Can we place stop putting white people in positions to deny collective trauma? Thanks.

Hannu Ikonen

Tip for the "gotta meet em where they are at folks:" You do that by listening, modeling, and validating the valid. You don't do it by denying reality. You don't do it by feeding denial & modeling adverse coping strategies (such as not masking during a pandemic).

Literally part of the six levels of DBT validation.

co.grant.mn.us/DocumentCenter/

People crave being heard. What they don't crave is cowardice equated as leadership when it comes to public policy that is meant to create a safe space.

None of this denial bullshit solves the problem, makes it better, makes it bearable. It actually perpetuates the insult, the trauma, through a #COVID19 carousel that people cannot disembark from.

White leadership's response to #COVID19 across the board, across all political parties, is a total failure of leadership, courage, validation, empathy, & willingness to stand taut against injustice that is a pervasive, arbitrary risk of disability from infectious disease.

Here's Carl Rogers, LISTENING to a black man's pain, rather than leading the discussion from the top down.

Levels of Validation:
- Shows interest
- Reflects
- Interprets and applies to other comments & thoughts
- Validates the valid
- Appreciates the emotion given the determinant causes of it, even anger.

youtube.com/watch?v=eWDLHz4CLW

Tip for the "gotta meet em where they are at folks:" You do that by listening, modeling, and validating the valid. You don't do it by denying reality. You don't do it by feeding denial & modeling adverse coping strategies (such as not masking during a pandemic).

Literally part of the six levels of DBT validation.

Hannu Ikonen

All my colleagues have aged DECADES in the last 3 years because of all of these failures allowing COVID to age the shit out of their bodies. Despite the stress witnessing this has taken on me, I haven't, because I've had covid once and got lucky.

It's never too late to stand up and do the right thing for you and those around you. #WearAMask

Hannu Ikonen

When I see a world denying an airborne viral pandemic, and I have grown up seeing hand hygiene, cooking, boiling, and all sorts of other sterilization-centric activities intended to prevent disease embraced, *and on top of that* I see the consequences of COVID denial in front of my face, day after day, in the minds & bodies of the injured,

I start to feel like I learned that 2+2=4 but the majority of the 'professionals' around me did not get that -- that math, or reality, or a virus don't give a fucking shit about your desire to will 2+2=5 into existence. That reality is telling you to stop trying to make Fetch happen, ya bunch of covid denying Weiners.

When I see a world denying an airborne viral pandemic, and I have grown up seeing hand hygiene, cooking, boiling, and all sorts of other sterilization-centric activities intended to prevent disease embraced, *and on top of that* I see the consequences of COVID denial in front of my face, day after day, in the minds & bodies of the injured,

Hannu Ikonen

Anyway, I'm done fucking ranting.

64 mastodonz logistics co-op

@hannu_ikonen that take, that we were traumatised by covid mitigations, and not by the death and destruction caused by the disease and its ongoing effects, is everything that is wrong with public health practice, laid bare

64 mastodonz logistics co-op

@hannu_ikonen “masks won’t work because people won’t wear them correctly, we can’t tell people to wear masks” was a time

J.H.Noyes

@64 @hannu_ikonen

Endlessly kvetching about masks is one way to do it, another way to do it is to make the NAIAD explain why so many youngsters are displaying brain changes consistent with the onset of Alzheimer's Disease.

To be clear, I'm talking about stuff like this:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

Intersecting with this:

journals.lww.com/co-psychiatry.

@64 @hannu_ikonen

Endlessly kvetching about masks is one way to do it, another way to do it is to make the NAIAD explain why so many youngsters are displaying brain changes consistent with the onset of Alzheimer's Disease.

To be clear, I'm talking about stuff like this:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

Falcon Darkstar

@64 @hannu_ikonen at least for me, the trauma was about us doing a few things:
- Relying on the police state
- Prioritizing individual behaviour and sacrifice while ignoring anything systemic, because clean indoor air would cost landlords money
- Watching us still not fix air quality
- Fear of the consequences of catching the virus itself

Now I admit, a previous line of work has unfortunately left me somewhat inured to mass casualties, and if it didn't I would likely have trauma about that too.

@64 @hannu_ikonen at least for me, the trauma was about us doing a few things:
- Relying on the police state
- Prioritizing individual behaviour and sacrifice while ignoring anything systemic, because clean indoor air would cost landlords money
- Watching us still not fix air quality
- Fear of the consequences of catching the virus itself

Falcon Darkstar

@64 @hannu_ikonen that's not about whiteness. It is about privilege a bit though; we are all denied the privilege of being safe participating in society without needing to worry about masks, and we have all had to watch our society flail around with shaming and use of force around quarantines and masks followed by denial, exposing the probability that the next time our collective safety is threatened, our society will again leave us to bear the consequences, while maybe punishing us too.

Haily Merry

@64 @hannu_ikonen To be fair I think you can make a very reasonable and persuasive case for both, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Lockdowns were no doubt necessary, but they evidently did lead to a hole bunch of unintended consequences, people living with abusive partners / families, kids with learning disabilities or who just struggled to adapt or who's schools were ill equipped to help them do so, to name but a few.

J.H.Noyes

@hannu_ikonen They think that if they deny it hard enough they'll be safe. It's magical thinking on an institutional scale.

Lynn Keller

@hannu_ikonen I'm an NP, have lost friends who died caring for infected COVID and vaccine deniers, new NP's who will never go back to nursing. Curious if you link the NPD/Trump trance with other extreme belief/behavior distortions

Hannu Ikonen

@majordopolis if Trump doesn't have both APD & NPD, I'd be blown away.

Shaula Evans

@hannu_ikonen Some friends I haven't seen since school sent me photos this summer. I'm not kidding or exaggerating: they look old enough to be my parents. This isn't me being ageist or in age denial: they truly looked a generation older than me. It was really unnerving.

Debbie Belair

@hannu_ikonen Yup, at 64 I can still run hard around the track a few times because of my own sacrifices but I don't know how long it will be until somebody forces it on me. 😞

Rachel 🧛‍♀️

@hannu_ikonen

Used dbt in the classroom. Middle schoolers were receptive to it. Unfortunately left teaching bc soulless admin

Shaula Evans

@hannu_ikonen I've never read up on DBT validation before. Thank you for sharing the link.

I'm partway through and I have to say that most people I know in any context are terrible at Level three.

Hannu Ikonen

@ShaulaEvans arguably 3 is the most advanced. Requires teasing out underpinning values or important beliefs and connecting them

Shaula Evans

@hannu_ikonen I'd been thinking about 3 a lot lately (without knowing it was "3") because I've witnessed, first and second hand, a lot of people feeling entitled to define someone else or control their narrative at a level that qualifies as covert violence.

So not so much 3, as anti-3.

Hannu Ikonen

@ShaulaEvans ya. 3 is tough, requires earnest effort to *hear* and see someone

VulcanTourist

@hannu_ikonen

Can we please stop putting white men in positions? Thanks.

Double entendre not entendred.

BöotesVoid

@hannu_ikonen It also places their "trauma" of non normality above trauma of those who suffered real harm from Covid. They're giving themselves the justification necessary to discount people with long Covid or those disabled or those who lost loved ones to it

Bishop Whitewind

@hannu_ikonen seems they discovered sex at some point, you can see how shit that went.

VulcanTourist

@hannu_ikonen

I lived through that, and being a once-and-former D&D and Traveler role-player I had the inside knowledge of how the accusations were more fictional than the game. While it's true that the players I knew were more often than not non-Christians and agnostic or atheist, they more certainly weren't atheist.

That entire episode was a scheme to "Other" and create scapegoats out of an atypical class of people. The people who concocted the scheme were looking for more "witches" to burn to distract from other issues. That should sound very familiar.

@hannu_ikonen

I lived through that, and being a once-and-former D&D and Traveler role-player I had the inside knowledge of how the accusations were more fictional than the game. While it's true that the players I knew were more often than not non-Christians and agnostic or atheist, they more certainly weren't atheist.

Yakyu Night Owl

@hannu_ikonen Protestant school. We could get in trouble for having dice, modules, or little lead figures, so we left that at home.

Copies of Soldier of Fortune magazine made the rounds at school along with the Anarchist Cookbook, but no Dungeon Master's Guides.

JimmyChezPants

@hannu_ikonen

I was a chubby little metal fan, and I mean, I'm talking Twisted Sister not Slayer, and I remember being accused of being into Satanism all the damn time. It was fucked up cult behavior, especially in Saskatchewan.

Mr. Completely

@hannu_ikonen was one of the first times I realized my mom was actually pretty cool. I was a super into it first gen D&D kid also into heavy metal. She didn't take that stuff seriously at all, treated it like the joke it was.

Oggie

@hannu_ikonen
If you ever want to go down a rabbit hole, don't forget that the secret service raided Steve Jackson games because of a sourcebook.

sjgames.com/SS/

Christopher :coffefied:

@hannu_ikonen

Not to mention they always found a local psychiatrist (no offence) for a sound bite for TV to backup how "violently damaging" to a child physic D&D could be, on top of punk culture, video games, television, film, rock music, music videos and comic books and so on :blobcatglance:

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