RIP YOUR DVD COLLECTION FOLKS Wanted to watch Aliens,...

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RIP YOUR DVD COLLECTION FOLKS

Wanted to watch Aliens, the disc plays OK but makes a horrible grinding sound. "OK fine," thinks I, "I'll watch it via other means," well my friends the other means are really really bad

"Oh cool there was a remaster this year" yeah they overexposed it and washed it all out, and as if that wasn't enough they AI'd it and everyone's got weird plastic skin

"Well butts, how about the blu-ray release from the early 2010's," well they didn't AI it yet but they did bollocks up the colours and made it all green because that was a thing in the 2010's

Rip your own DVDs folks 'cause if that DVD starts having problems you might not be able to find a copy amid a sea of gradually deteriorating versions

Like 15 September at 3:31 | Open on retro.social

60 comments

The Book of Kels

@ifixcoinops

At first I thought you meant RIP as in "Rest In Peace", meaning your DVD collection is just fucked no matter what you do.

15 September at 3:34 | Open on wandering.shop

charly

@Nezchan

same

@ifixcoinops

15 September at 9:11 | Open on strangeobject.space

fullfathomfive

@Nezchan @ifixcoinops ... I only realised that first RIP was rip and not R.I.P. after reading your comment

15 September at 9:59 | Open on aus.social

synlogic

@ifixcoinops yeah I hear you. Aliens is one of my favorite films. so I think I made a pure digital file backup somewhere, years ago

15 September at 3:34 | Open on toot.io

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@synlogic if you watch the new remaster make sure you haven't watched a DVD version recently, Oof

15 September at 3:36 | Open on retro.social

synlogic

@ifixcoinops k

new versions tend to be worse

one of the rare times I liked remasters was when Paramount revised the orig Star Trek episodes to have better space imagery. It made it more visually lush while still keeping original feel, imo

15 September at 3:43 | Open on toot.io

Ryan "lofenyy" Medeiros

@ifixcoinops Honestly, I'm scared for the future of digital media. I was just listening to Fallen by Evanescense last night, and the first non-playlist result was some assy remaster. It took me ages to find a decent copy of the original album.

On top of that, it's getting harder and harder to actually find songs I love. They're getting buried under seas of crappy pop sensations.

Peertube could solve this, but with the fear of takedowns and the DMCA, a better solution is a TOR Hidden Service dedicated to archiving and preserving digital art.

Also, FLAC > MP3...

On top of that, it's getting harder and harder to actually find songs I love. They're getting buried under seas of crappy pop sensations.

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15 September at 3:42 | Open on social.linux.pizza

Duncan

@lofenyy @ifixcoinops

Not many people have noticed that we are in the middle of an information dark age. We will look back on this era and there will be nothing saved.

15 September at 11:38 | Open on merveilles.town

Weedkiller

@lofenyy @ifixcoinops Yeah, one of the (many) reasons I don’t use music streaming services is that they always have the grottiest, nastiest loudness war blighted remasters of older albums on there. In my experience, CD masters from the 80s/90s are always superior.

15 September at 12:25 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

Johns

@ifixcoinops

15 September at 3:52 | Open on mastodon.social

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@Johns_priv yeah, except all the torrents are for the shitty blu-ray versions, hence the emphasis on ripping DVDs

15 September at 3:57 | Open on retro.social

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

"I'll just pirate it, yo ho ho!" no you bloody won't, the pirates have rips of the crap blu-rays, who the hell still seeds DVD rips

Good luck sorting out a hundred different ALIENS 1986 torrents to figure out which are the AI-shitty ones and which are only the teal-shitty ones when half of them don't even mention whether they're the proper full length film or the crappy theatrical version where they cut out Ripley's entire daughter

Piracy won't help here, that was the whole point of the post

Rip your DVDs

"I'll just pirate it, yo ho ho!" no you bloody won't, the pirates have rips of the crap blu-rays, who the hell still seeds DVD rips

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15 September at 4:02 | Open on retro.social

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

"Random fedi people stop telling Dan what a torrent is" challenge

15 September at 4:04 | Open on retro.social

Ryan "lofenyy" Medeiros

@ifixcoinops Dan be nice to us idiots challenge? Dan stop subtooting me challenge??

15 September at 4:07 | Open on social.linux.pizza

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

SPACE YEAR 2057

🦝 Aw shit hon, our holocube of Aliens (1986) oxidised right in the third MPU core
🐈 oh no, can you just download us a copy?
🦝 sure lemme check the torrents

TWO HOURS LATER

🦝 Well I found the 2010's-era print that got turned teal 'cause that's what they were doing in 2010
🐈 oh god yeah everything from then looked so weird and mossy
🦝 yeah, and then I found one from the 20's that was during that godawful uncanny valley AI phase so that's no good either
🐈 yuck
🦝 I found one from the 2030's when they were doing the face swaps with living actors? Remember that? Some weird rights thing?
🐈 haha oh wow yeah that's a blast from the past
🦝 and that one has a CRT filter too. Anyway 2040's edition brought back the film grain but, well, y'know the 40's and film grain
🐈 oh yeah, MORE film grain
🦝 WAY TOO MUCH film grain, and the LCD filters yeah
🐈 yeah
🦝 anyway I found one from the early 50's with tails, apart from that it's half decent quality
🐈 well are the tails done tastefully at least or
🦝 I mean they changed a couple shots so the marines are using their tails to reload and apparently at some point Ripley goes "Thank God I have this big bushy squirrel tail" but apart from that
🐈 huh that's actually pretty restrained compared with a lot of tail remasters
🦝 yeah this might be the best of the bunch, shall we give it a go
🐈 sure I'll rehydrate us some popcorn

5 minutes later

🐈🦝 FUCKING THEATRICAL CUT

SPACE YEAR 2057

🦝 Aw shit hon, our holocube of Aliens (1986) oxidised right in the third MPU core
🐈 oh no, can you just download us a copy?
🦝 sure lemme check the torrents

TWO HOURS LATER

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15 September at 4:27 | Open on retro.social

Scarred and Terraformed

@ifixcoinops oh hey I didn't know Aliens had a better cut. I heard Alien3 had a director's edition that was substantially better than the original release (which I didn't like)

15 September at 4:30 | Open on eigenmagic.net

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@arichtman oh man yeah there's like half an hour that got left on the floor for Aliens

Alien 3 has a cut that makes it a technically better film to watch, but still a shite story tbh.

Best Alien trilogy is Alien (either cut honestly depending on whether you favour mood or pacing), Alien: Isolation, Aliens (full length).

15 September at 4:34 | Open on retro.social

SnoopJ

@ifixcoinops @arichtman ahh, if only they had made the Gibson script...

15 September at 4:47 | Open on hachyderm.io

Scarred and Terraformed

@ifixcoinops I haven't seen Isolation, thanks for the idea! I did watch a behind the scenes kinda thing about Alien too recently and they really did some cool stuff with it.

15 September at 4:48 | Open on eigenmagic.net

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@arichtman it's a game! And it's actually a better film than most of the films :P

(it's not a fun game, but it is a masterpiece)

15 September at 4:51 | Open on retro.social

Von Xylofon

@ifixcoinops @arichtman "it's not a fun game"

Not with that attitude, it isn't. Seriously, though, that shit will give you PTSD. 10/10

15 September at 8:14 | Open on witter.cz

Squozen 🇪🇺

@arichtman @ifixcoinops I don’t think the directors cut is better. It takes all the tension away from the start of the film. The only part that definitely should have made the theatrical cut is the scene where Ripley is told that her daughter died years ago while she was in hypersleep, which makes her latching on to Newt make more sense.

15 September at 8:57 | Open on mastodon.ie

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

🦝 Hell with this I'm downloading the one from Tom's Tapes
🐈 oh yeah while you were getting the others I read on the video forum that the version that Tom Taped off the Telly in 1994 is the best one
🦝 right off I go

...

🦝 so apparently at some point in the 30's Tom's Tape got used as a basis for colour-grading the subsequent remasters which is how they got rid of the teal, and recently they actually put out a remaster of Tom's Tape in PAL regions
🐈 oh yeah? Ad breaks and everything?
🦝 Yeah, just as it was but with higher resolution
🐈 and tails obviously
🦝 obviously

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15 September at 4:46 | Open on retro.social

charly

@ifixcoinops

Dunno if that's really a thing or if you made it up, but if it IS a thing I'm interested. (And I couldn't find anything with a quick internet search.)

15 September at 9:13 | Open on strangeobject.space

argv minus one

@ifixcoinops

I dunno, I'm kinda looking forward to these future movie trends. 😂

15 September at 6:03 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org

woof

@ifixcoinops trackers are alright if you can tolerate the poor tagging quality. in practice, though, they're too ephemeral to have a definitive archive. look at what happened to whatcd. most people use slsk + musicbrainz or beetz, but, while this is slightly better in terms of tagging, it doesn't solve the issue of older iterations of a record.

15 September at 4:35 | Open on pl.dokyun.club

Ryan "lofenyy" Medeiros

@ifixcoinops Welp, I'm a dummy, but surely a good quality archive of DVD rips that happen to be public facing is a lot better than an archive of DVD rips thst aren't.

Also, I do leech and seed DVD rips... I have slow internet.

15 September at 4:06 | Open on social.linux.pizza

Andy

@ifixcoinops just a salient point that you have pirates and you have archival communities in just about all disciplines. It doesn’t mean you’ll find what you need easily but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist in the digital seed bank like communities that are scattered about.

Your point is also wise no matter what. If you still haven’t digitized certain parts of your media just for a backups sake. Do so. It’s not hard and the medium wears out.

15 September at 4:13 | Open on mastodon.online

Jordan :ms_nonbinary_flag:

@ifixcoinops Rip your local library's DVDs too

15 September at 4:19 | Open on sometimes.social

🏔️ owl 🌲

@jordan @ifixcoinops yes, they even have aliens!
hopefully without green filter/AI/tails.
maybe the owners require libraries to add 1 more tail for each loan.

15 September at 8:39 | Open on gts.u8.is

Ashley (she/they)

@ifixcoinops I ripped mine. Unfortunately I did not have a backup. You can guess what happened next to that hard drive.

15 September at 4:31 | Open on mastodon.online

Gustavo

@ifixcoinops To be fair, in case the DVDs are completely failing, I guess that's the best choice. Of course, it's hard, but there is always the chance there is someone in some small country still seeding it at 1 kbps. I remember downloading a torrent or two that took a year to finish just because the most seeded torrents were shit and the only good only had just a few seeders.

Or trying to buy a still recoverable DVD on the internet and hope that's really still recoverable, then rip it. It is still hard. Thus, anyone who still has recoverable DVDs should rip as soon as possible.

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15 September at 8:45 | Open on urusai.social

gws

@ifixcoinops You seem to have implied piracy (and piracy alone) can help thus everyone should be contributing.

15 September at 9:25 | Open on social.chinwag.org

Duke

@ifixcoinops Howdy. Not to sound too inept, but software recommendations to use specifically for DVD rips? Thanks.

15 September at 4:04 | Open on mastodon.social

Andy

@DukeDuke @ifixcoinops Handbreak. It’s free and I think available on all platforms. https://handbrake.fr

15 September at 4:15 | Open on mastodon.online

rawe

@DukeDuke @ifixcoinops dvdshrink was the go-to-tool for some time

15 September at 4:18 | Open on techhub.social

Air Adam

@stereo4x4 @DukeDuke @ifixcoinops I didn't realise it wasn't anymore 😳 I still use it, and then trusty VLC for playback of the ISO files.

15 September at 5:20 | Open on mastodon.me.uk

Viral Obscurity

@DukeDuke @ifixcoinops MakeMKV. Its the only reliable option in my experience

It fully rips with disc with no compression. Its free to rip DVD's but needs a license key for Bluray

You can compress it with handbrake after but if you're serious about doing this then you don't want to degrade quality from already low bitrate originals

My warning is some Lionsgate discs take a while to scan because of weird copy protection but this is the case with any software

15 September at 4:29 | Open on mstdn.social

argv minus one

@DukeDuke

If you're on Linux 🐧 then there's a command-line program called dvdbackup. With the -M (“mirror”) option, it rips the entire disc, decrypts it, and places the content in a folder. VLC can play from that folder with its “open directory” command. DVD menus will still work, as they did on the original disc.

Note that this produces a *folder*, not a single file, and it will be about 8GB. There are other options you can use to make a different kind of backup.

@ifixcoinops

15 September at 6:27 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org

Lunar 🛸 ♾

@DukeDuke @ifixcoinops VLC does a decent enough job, IIRC.

15 September at 6:39 | Open on dosgame.club

McNadoMD

@ifixcoinops can’t say I did this for DVDs, but I buy all my music on CD, rip a copy for my truck, and burn another copy to multiple hard drives.

Yeah, I lost entire music collections in the age of Napster. I fucking remember the old magic.

Oh, and my vinyl cuts still play great.

15 September at 4:10 | Open on mstdn.social

RalfMaximus

@ifixcoinops

Yes yes, rip your DVDs while you're thinking of them. But also: polite reminder that thrift stores are an EXCELLENT source for cheap vintage DVDs. I've found un-remastered Alien discs for $1 each, in pristine condition.

Also, a good source for $9 DVD/BluRay players if you want a dedicated machine to do that.

15 September at 4:18 | Open on mastodon.social

olav

@ifixcoinops
We buy and rip 1-2 DVD/Blu-rays a month instead of streaming. Well over 200 titles at last count, so the problem is still "what should we watch"

Edit: if.MPAA ever came round they can play match the title to the disc

15 September at 4:28 | Open on theweird.space

Thalass

@ifixcoinops
Wait the green thing was on purpose? I thought my TV was busted. 🤦‍♂️

15 September at 4:50 | Open on social.chinwag.org

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@Thalass as a bloke who calibrates monitors for a living it drives me up the bloody wall

15 September at 4:52 | Open on retro.social

TheFwGuy 🇪🇺🇮🇹🇺🇸🖖

@ifixcoinops I have all my DVD collection on Plex on a my server. The DVDs are packed in boxes, as backup, probably more than 1000 so far.

15 September at 4:57 | Open on techhub.social

SnoopJ

@ifixcoinops a friend of mine shared a 35 mm scan with me recently and while I haven't watched ALIENS in a very long time, I'm grateful that *somewhere* a copy that hasn't been deliberately ruined exists, for the time being

15 September at 4:58 | Open on hachyderm.io

MegatronicThronBanks

@ifixcoinops Word

15 September at 5:00 | Open on mastodon.social

Earthshine

@ifixcoinops protip: search for the original lasedisc rip. You get the original cut in the best available quality (better than DVD for anything that originally came out before bluray).

You can tune your indexer to filter by format and file size to weed out fakes and lossy repacks.

Proper piratin' is an art these days.

15 September at 5:00 | Open on hackers.town

djb

@ifixcoinops i have my DVDs backed up as raw ISOs. can burn them again as needed. but my player can read the ISOs just fine

15 September at 5:44 | Open on infosec.exchange

Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:

@djb @ifixcoinops I highly recommend this method of ripping. My old file server would auto rip DVDs when placed in the drive then eject when finished.

15 September at 6:24 | Open on infosec.exchange

Tom Walker

@ifixcoinops It's probably possible to find a 1:1 replacement for the actual DVD? (And then rip it.)

Lools like there are some on eBay for cheap

15 September at 7:23 | Open on mastodon.social

Alan Campbell For Harris

@ifixcoinops Aye done most of mine, especially the Stargate box sets, with this in mind.

15 September at 7:30 | Open on techhub.social

Rage Rumbles 🏴‍☠️ 🏳️‍🌈 🔞

@ifixcoinops How do I get out of this chicken shit outfit?

15 September at 7:40 | Open on syzito.xyz

Jay

@ifixcoinops Is there a list of movies that have shitty or controversial Blu-Rays? Surely many if not most are fine

15 September at 7:56 | Open on social.coop

Linza

@ifixcoinops I liked the remaster. It's easier to see. #oldppl

15 September at 8:17 | Open on kamu.social

Lance

@ifixcoinops I've ripped most of my DVDs for safekeeping and convenience.

I haven't done most of the Blu-Ray discs due to extra storage and steps required. There's also the painful decision regarding whether to save the rips as DVD quality to save space. In that case, you lose much of the benefit of the format.

15 September at 9:27 | Open on mastodon.art

Christian Schwägerl

@ifixcoinops @Lambo What is a DVD?

15 September at 9:51 | Open on mastodon.social

Mhairi

@ifixcoinops Its not that easy finding something to play them on either ,neither of our two new laptops have a dvd drive and I know you can get plug in ones but I have used those in the past and they arent great ,you usually need extra speakers for some reason .I have a big stock of DVDs because our winter internet isnt always great and we get pwoer cuts so laptops are perfect for passing a few hours without huddling over torches to read

15 September at 10:31 | Open on mastodon.scot

Clark W Griswold until 25-Dec

@ifixcoinops I rip and i agree. I rip to MKV container format because you can get the closed captions in a stored/optional format. You don’t HAVE to see them, but you can turn them on if you want to. You won’t always be as young as you are now, and you might want those subtitles one day.

15 September at 11:26 | Open on infosec.exchange