And it was a comment on a post about Starbucks being terrible, their CEO being terrible, and them doing terrible union busting! And this... This is what someone chose to write as a JUSTIFICATION to get Starbucks even though they thought they probably shouldn't?

I am... Collapsing into a black hole. Just. Fuck.

@sinituulia That's hysterical. I be judging too!

@sinituulia We're kinda trained *not* to think about cars as the heavy machinery they are.

@sinituulia Am I the only one that isn't at all surprised at this? And this is only because I've been out there. I've seen these people. I've even worked with some of them.

It is exactly for this reason that I work from home, do all of my shopping online and generally only leave the house to walk the dogs.

If I have to leave the house for any other reason, I firstly check to see if I'm going to meet generally like minded people. If not, I'm not going.

I am in my bubble and I'm not coming out.

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I can only understand this for someone who actually lives in their car. Which is apparently increasingly common in the US.

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the need to drive kilometers (excuse me: miles) to do just about anything is wild as well

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they operate machinery before coffee, 95% of coffeeaholocics could not find their car keys before coffee!

@sinituulia Car culture in North America is truly next-level shit. Just look at the screaming hissy fits you get from people who misunderstand "fifteen minute cities".

@sinituulia for coffee that probably isn't even as good as what you could make at home for less. people think we're weird for like putting effort into making coffee, but it's less effort than going outside for it?

@sinituulia And they will justify spending $900 per month on their car/truck in part because they need a reliable vehicle to get their essential morning coffee.

@sinituulia EVERYTHING about this is so wrong, let me count the ways:
• Operating a vehicle before being awake.
• Making a pointless journey when there is a climate crisis.
• Giving custom to a horrible multinational.
• Wasting so much time and money.
• Drinking horrible coffee.

On every level, it is YUCK.

@sinituulia and I'm sure the local coffee shop would welcome customers wearing pajamas, because why wouldn't they??

@sinituulia Yes, I’m going to be judgy too. First of all, it strikes me as the height of laziness that they can’t be bothered to make coffee before going out, driving to get coffee (waste of gas), then coming back to finish their morning routine. And Starbucks on top of it! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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This is very common. What stood out was that the instigator chose Starbucks because they didn't need to get fully dressed for work before their coffee. These companies have spent (Starbucks, Dunkin', Tim Hortons) years changing the culture of their customers. It will take a lot to change it back

For the record I live in a city in NA and prepare my own Americano coffee using an espresso machine. Enjoy it, then get dressed in work clothes and walk 2 km to work.

@sinituulia they just need a teasmaid, once common in the UK and some commonwealth countries. It wakes you up with a fresh pot of tea.

Has the advantage of being fully automatic and it's tea instead of undrinkable coffee!

Silliness aside, as a non coffee drinker I find the whole thing bizarre. My family that do drink coffee, wouldn't touch a Starbucks with a bargepole...

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I hate to break it to you but coffee isn't great for the environment either. I keep trying to give it up, but I'm an addict apparently.

@sinituulia years ago, i mentioned to an american friend that i was glad that i didn't have to go out for the next week (over christmas), and her jaw dropped. "i got out at least twice a day every day," she replied. "you know, to go to the store, and then i might go to the bank, and then i might go back to the store," and then here and there and she went on and on and. don't you ... combine journeys? to save money and time and the planet and.

no.

apparently not.

@sinituulia to be honest, my biggest problem is drive through coffee anyway. I mean... Why? In the UK at e.g. Solstice Park on A303, people line up their cars for drive through instead of parking and walking into the store.

I don't get it, where do you go after that to drink it? Surely not driving down the road at 70mph and trying to drink a scalding hot coffee at the same time!? But if you park up, why not just go into the store? Just seems massively lazy to me.

@sinituulia Now I'm imagining a line of naked unshaven men in their cars, paying for coffee with their eyes closed, and then driving away, the eyes still closed.

@sinituulia I don’t even need to ask what country is that person from…

@sinituulia I don't drink coffee but I live in the US and want to offer some context. I am, by no means excusing any of this, but it's more than just the individual - it's systemic.
The clothes part is likely people in pajamas as it's become very acceptable in rural and some suburban areas for people to be in sleep wear and do grocery shopping. Maybe some masc being topless but most businesses have the right to not serve customers that aren't attired in a way they see fit.
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@sinituulia At some point, the obsession with coffee stops being funny and starts being something I look increasingly warily upon. What people got there starts to look like addiction.

If you "can't function in the morning without it" and "would risk other people's lives driving in pyjamas to get a cup of coffee", you have a problem.

Yes, I like coffee (but I break fast with mate, normally), but I can wake up, get dressed, and start my day without *craving* caffeine.

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Is this comment from the US or Alberta?

The two most likely places for this kind of thing

@sinituulia Just marking this to come back to tomorrow over my home made pour over coffee from (relatively) ethical beans, that I make while wearing clothes, so I can feel appropriately smug

@sinituulia America isn't exactly a country, it's more like a bunch of social dysfunctions in a trench coat

@sinituulia There is a high student population in my neighbourhood, so there are some sights to be seen at local Starbucks, especially on a weekend morning, when hoody, pyjama trousers and slippers counts as "fully dressed." But at least they've walked there!

@sinituulia I've lived in California, and people there rarely put on real clothes for anything. (That's both a snobbish French person comment, and something I like immensely because in my early twenties not feeling judged for my clothes was very freeing.) And even here in France no café will mind that you're walking in in sweatpants, a lose jumper and flipflops.

(Deliberately not commenting on the myriad other ways this is wrong.)

@sinituulia That is ... definitely a little insane.

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I must admit to usually going for my morning double espresso naked.

The machine is in my kitchen though...

@sinituulia I bought my nephew a French press and pour over because he kept talking about buying coffee everyday and when I asked if he at least brought his own mug he looked at the ground.

This was when I brought him locally grown coffee because I live… on a coffee farm.

@sinituulia Whole beans, a simple grinder and a french press are my hosting solution as someone who doesn't have coffee routinely myself. The whole beans stay good for a long time and neither the grinder nor the press need an electrical outlet, and the whole setup takes up very little storage space.

@sinituulia I'm judging this person and I live in America.

@sinituulia They don’t see it. Driving is invisible to them. I complained to my parents that I hated having to drive everywhere when we visited them. “What are you talking about?” they said. “You guys have to drive to the store, drive to the golf course, drive to walk the dogs…” “Oh, that’s not driving, those are only five minutes [of driving] away.”

@sinituulia Convenience is a cult that needs culling.

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This reminds me of the three fast food drive-throughs in the small town next to me, all of them right next to mostly empty parking lots. What's the idea?

@sinituulia I have known a couple of couples, although not well, who had no kitchen in normal sized houses that they owned. One couple moved from the city to the countryside near the town of Aberaron, but not in it and promptly ripped out the kitchen. They had a primary school age child. Went out for every meal and every drink. The choice is not great in that tiny town.