Gregory's Server@moonrabbit @sinituulia a neighbour of mine used to drive into town to do their food shopping, then come back and unload, then drive to the recycling centre in the village with their glass and paper recycling. They had good intentions, but missed the point a bit.
@sheepnik @sinituulia it amazes me how ingrained "i will move around in a car with no consequences whatsoever" is in people.