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Eugen Rochko

I like that I was able to go back to "Publish" in the official iOS and Android apps. It may be less whimsical, and less branded, but after using the platform for such a long time, I'm perfectly happy with a button that just describes what it will do without trying to be cute (not that I dislike cute, I'd never part with our elephant illustrations). I have seen enough "Dr. Doom toots as he pleases" quotes in the first two years of Mastodon to last me a lifetime.

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R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

@Gargron
With the greatest of respect, sir,
I will be calling them toots forever.
🐘 💨
🤣

stux⚡

@Gargron That's a funny story actually :blobcatgiggle:

And ofc this was a logical decision back in the day! :toot: Personally I really don't mind how the button is being called as long as it makes sense, and in this case it totally does!

I have had nothing but positive replies from people online and AFK about it :blobcatgiggle: It uh.. takes the edge off or something :mastolol2:

Doutor

@Gargron Sorry to cut your posts off with a question but will Mastodon have a "repost" button that we can comment on, something like a retweet with quote?

Mark W. Gabby-Li 🐌

@Gargron Free software has traditionally had a major issue with off-putting names.

I've been very impressed with the prudence of your leadership of this project, and I would like to say that I 100% support you in this decision.
It's a solid choice that I think will help lead the project to wider adoption.

Miguel_B

@Gargron Toot is going away?
Well, I guess I know what rewrite rule I'll be applying.
I happen to *love* the "Toot!" button. It's quirky and much better than the boring "publish"

spaphy

@Gargron settings-> “replace publish with toot”

Now Dr doom gets to be satisfied :lul:

tom h

@Gargron fwiw I always found the word toot a little embarrassing. Not because of the other meaning but just because it felt a bit too jokey. Is there a reason you chose "publish" over "post"?

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@Gargron I think a better alternative would be “Post!”, especially for non-public posts and direct conversations.

M. J. Wolfe

@Gargron, this might sound weird, but I liked that it said “toot”. It made it seem different from other platforms.

“Publish” is so generic. “Toot” was very on-brand with the whole Mammoth theme.

I thought it was fantastic.

sky⁉️ :heart_genderqueer:

@Gargron I think "post" would be better. "Publish" is a little heavy for a tiny 500-character piece of text, it sounds more like you're putting out a book or an academic paper or something.

Ben Adrian Sarmiento

@Gargron I hope all software engineers think the same way

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

@Gargron what a great history to the name. TIL.

Yes, likely a good decision to take away friction. And I've seen countless HN discussion where people took offense, while others defended the name.

"Toot" will live on in the Urban Dictionary of the fediverse and people say it affectionally.

I am no sociologist but I feel that that simple "dare to be different" name might have contributed a lot to the current Fediverse culture we have, and which we like so much.

MrTangoWhisky

@Gargron So kurz ich auch im Fediverse unterwegs bin, ich nutze Mastodon gerade wegen der anderen Begrifflichkeiten. Man versuche dem geneigten Nutzer zu erklären, warum man auf deutsch bei anderen Plattformen zwitschert, (ver)bucht, aufstellt oder abschickt und doch immer *to post* benutzt. Wer weiß denn, dass "Google" sich von Googol ableitet, einer Bezeichnung eines neunjährigen für eine 1 mit hundert Nullen?

MrTangoWhisky

@Gargron Wer im SocialMedia-Umfeld trötet oder tootet, der erntet sofort Aufmerksamkeit und wird, nach eigener Erfahrung, gründlich ausgefragt. Aber wer fragt schon nach dem *Wo*, wen vom Posten die Rede ist?
Bei Twitter tweetet/zwitschert man eine Tweet.
Bei Mastodon trötet man einen Post/Beitrag?
Bei Facebook postet man einen Eintrag?

Mackaj

@gargron I'm English and any potential disparaging connotations associated with "toot" hadn't even occurred to me. I just took it at face value and its cuteness is appealing. I hope you make this change configurable so that instances have the option to stick with toot if they wish.

Tantz Aerine :kafeneio:

@Gargron A bit of self-sarcasm never harmed anyone. Tooting might be a way to remember not to take ourselves too seriously and be open to the opinions of others rather than just smell our own. Bottom line, tooting is a-ok. Puns intended and I'm sorry.

bob :fediverse:

@Gargron You know, I kind of read it as "I shall now toot my own horn", which is a lovely little English idiom grounded in a simpler, quainter past I miss very much.

Keep up the great work. The 4.0 candidate looks killer.

Better Days 💪🏾🏀 🗑️🔥

@Gargron Losing "toots" seems like a good change. What about swapping the term "instance" to "server(s)" to describe other.... servers. 💿

J

@Gargron
I... hadn't even thought of the Dr. Doom meme... But that is brilliant and perfect.

Erica Brooks

@Gargron Ironically this is actually winning me over to "toots".

phillip :sonicteam_verified:

@Gargron I think Publish is much better than toot fwiw!

Also, I think we should reevaluate the term "Reblog". I know I'm just one person, and this isn't a huge deal so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but the prefix Re means to do something again, and none of the other language used insinuates there was ever and initial Blog. I think Boost is still fine, but also Repost and Republish are better options, with my money on Boost and Republish. There's my unwarranted opinion for the day lol

Az_The nicest of the damned.

@Gargron There is always the bravado method of making it your own. More than one social group has turned a negative label into one they fully owned and defined.

Beatrice Marovich

@Gargron i think it would be a service to flatulence, generally speaking, if everyone started to think about toots as something more whimsical. but i’m actually glad to hear that it’s actually a contingent feature for you!

James 🦉 #FBPE :europe:

@Gargron Posts and post, or publish, are more neutral/transparent/unassuming too, like good prose. "Post" has my vote.
Edit: Heh - Metatext provides this option, right?

Screenshot from the Metatext app showing "Post" as an option instead of "Toot"
Alex

@Gargron I was so very confused with the concept of 'toots' because I happened on lor.sh and it says publish.

I had heard the story about the YouTuber and while it was funny, I'm very glad the decision was made to move away from it.

Óscar Morales Vivó

@Gargron Please don't misquote Mr. Von Doom, PhD, it's "DR. DOOM TOOTS AS HE PLEASES".

pancake :radare2: 🌱

@Gargron some apps let you choose that word, not sure if the web does too

Strypey

@Gargron
'Publish' makes sense for Public posts. 'Share' would make more sense for Unlisted or Followers-only posts. 'Message' or somesuch would make more sense for Direct posts. If it could change like this, it could help guide people to make sure their posting level matches their intentions.

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