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anyone recognize this chip manufacturer? SFC?

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Michael Katzmann🐈

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Sescosem

Sescosem was formed during the merger of Thomson-Brandt and CSF in 1968. Thomson's SESCO division was merged with CSF's COSEM division to form SESCOSEM. Sescosem's products were never a big commercial success, but the technology was eventually absorbed in the subsequent mergers that created STMicroelectronics.

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Dantali0n :arch: :i3:

@tubetime I have a bunch of these in my parts bin they are quite common in the Netherlands (Europe).

Probably don't exist anymore as I have only ever seen 74LS never any CMOS variants.

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ever need to monitor an 8-bit bus on a breadboard? I'm working on a better way. the bottom board has a TTL transparent latch and 8 LEDs. the top board is special... 🧵

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this little guy turns the 8-bit value into hex! it's also configurable: you can flip the digits upside down for when you plug it into the left side of your breadboard. it can also trigger and latch data on the rising or falling edge of the optional trigger pulse, it can be level or edge sensitive, and you can set it to "single shot" capture a single value.

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some great pixel art from my brother. this was displayed with a genuine IBM CGA card (really!)

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Jonas Köritz

@tubetime that picture got some commander keen vibes going. And i don't think it's just the palette.

root42

@tubetime hm. Which palette is that? Some trickery?

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whatever you do, don't misapply this capacitor.

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rhempel

@tubetime This is just subtle enough to make you double check your math and make sure you have it oriented in the correct polarity.

Unless it's a bit too subtle and then you f#@k around and find out how much energy is in that misapplied capacitor.

We used to say "just put a BFC across the output of that lumpy 48v full wave rectified transformer and you'll be fine"

Mike Carden

@tubetime being an electronics apprentice in the 1980s was sometimes a Trial By Fire. Charging a big High Voltage electrolytic cap, wrapping its leads around it and tossing it to the apprentice was a thing. Ow-diddly-ow. Then connecting a tantalum cap backwards across the output of a DC supply and switching it on just as the apprentice walks up… Good Times?

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cross section of a high power electric car charging cable. the electric current is so high that the copper wires would overheat, but coolant flows through small tubes in the center of each wire.

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0xC0DEC0DE07E8

@tubetime holy crap, is all of this so that it can support an essentially infinite/full duty cycle? I mean I’ve lugged 4160V cables and they don’t need this (I mean, yes, they’re AC and high voltage specifically to reduce current and the resultant heat from I-squared R losses, but still)

SuperMoosie

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Cooling allows 35mm2 copper to be used rather than 120mm2, so reducing weight and increasing flexibility.

So charging cable feels closer to a traditional petrol pump, rather than a massive cable people would not like to use. While still able to carry 500 amps.

Also bigger versions to charge larger equipment - tug boats, ferries ,mining equipment etc

Termination pins take liquid off to the side for return journey. Allows liquid to circulate around pins to keep cooled.

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Cooling allows 35mm2 copper to be used rather than 120mm2, so reducing weight and increasing flexibility.

So charging cable feels closer to a traditional petrol pump, rather than a massive cable people would not like to use. While still able to carry 500 amps.

Also bigger versions to charge larger equipment - tug boats, ferries ,mining equipment etc

George, M1GEO

@tubetime as an EV driver, this is super cool to see!

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here's an interesting card that came in for attempted repair: a Hercules MC1024 Micro Channel video card. it uses the weird Micro Channel bus, and it is based around the TIGA graphics processor. and it appears to from the computer have been untimely ripp'd.

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this is how KiCad has been marking pin 1 on a lot of devices. yes, it's a silkscreen line that is slightly longer on one side than the other. because silkscreen never flakes away or gets obscured by a via or clipped by a fab vendor for being too close to a solder mask opening...

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in my own libraries, i like to use multiple markings for pin 1. here i have a semicircle at one end of the chip along with a circle right next to pin 1.

Harvey Sandstrom

@tubetime Long overdue. I had no idea they were following a standard, its a terrible standard. I've reversed SWD connections a half dozen times because a coworker decided to orient the connector unintuitively and made no attempt to augment the default terrible pin one marker.

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I got nerd sniped into helping reverse engineer this card. it's a rare beast -- the interface card for an IBM 5364. this midrange System/36 minicomputer was paired with a PC for bootstrapping and control. the interface between the two is a 62-pin cable and a special card that goes in the PC. these often get separated and lost.

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the machine is very non-descript and often mistaken for a PC, but it is not.

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i just love it how STEP models for electronic components are all locked down now 🙄 and also obviously wrong like this "7-segment" display.

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Ben Pye

@tubetime who's locking them down? I've generally not had any issues grabbing the vendor STEP models and using them in KiCad...

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found an unusual bare PC board on my lab bench... 🧵

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now streaming PCB reverse engineering! check it out.

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Max Wainwright

@tubetime You can just drag a line through all the capacitors. Watching that copy/paste operation w as painful :-)

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doing research on refurbishing old hard drives, and i learned that the platters are typically coated with a PFPE-based oil.

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just_one_bear

@tubetime This means I shouldn't use them as a serving dish! Y'know, because the big spindle hole isn't enough deterrent :)

gnarf

@tubetime Ok I'm pretty stupid so ELI5: What does that mean, is this PFPE oil dangerous? I've built little decorations out of old disk platters, was it stupid to hang them inside my apartment?

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@tubetime make shure to not loose alignment of the platters or else you gotta need to deep-reformat that thing!

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so i have picked up an INS8900D, also known as the National Semiconductor PACE. it is the first commercial 16-bit microprocessor. let's take it for a spin!

an INS8900D chip in a breadboard with some wiring in place
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Gary Wong

@tubetime I love it! My very first homemade computer (25..30 years ago now) was wired up on a breadboard very much like that, and even now there's still plenty of magic watching yours come to life. Nice job!

Tommy Thorn

@tubetime from the description on cpu-world.com/CPUs/PACE/index. it sounds like a nice architecture but unfortunately very slow.

🇺🇦 haxadecimal

@tubetime AFAIK NSC only called the original PMOS version PACE, and always referred to the NMOS version by the INS8900 part number.
Oddly enough, the NMOS version had the same timing specifications, rather than being faster than PMOS.
Years ago I discovered that the commonly found scans of PACE fig-forth were missing a page, and also had another serious bug. My corrections are on Bitsavers. The author of PACE fig-forth said that as far as he knew, no one else had ever used it.

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help solve a mystery! my friend has this Thinkpad. the LCD powers up fine, but slowly fades to white starting from around the edges of the screen. after powering it off and letting it sit for a few hours, it powers up fine again. got any ideas?

a Thinkpad showing the Windows 95 desktop. the pixels around the edges have faded to white with some sort of vignetting effect.
a Thinkpad showing the Windows 95 boot screen. The color LCD looks perfect.
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Andres Jalinton

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Is it hot on the bezels?
Could be:
1.- Heat from the fluorescent lamp that makes the liquid crystals to change the polarization of the light in the wrong way.
2.- Heat increasing the effect of the already de-laminating screen (does fix itself if you press the bezel?)

Jason P 🌈

@tubetime Mac people call this tunnel vision. Seems to be from moisture ingress. Baking the panel - or leaving in the Cali sun on a dry day - might help.

8080ingo8080

@tubetime Hi, it‘s maybe a loose connection of one of the LCD bias voltages. As there is only minimal current flow, the Panel charges up with time?

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the 74187 is a 1024-bit ROM (arranged as 256 x 4 bits). i was surprised to see this in my collection since this is a mask ROM device -- typically these have a custom marking on top.

...and yes, there seems to be data in this chip, but it is mostly zeros.

Data from a sequenced deck of data cards punched according to the specific format are permanently programmed by the factory into the monolithic structure for all bit locations. Upon receipt of the order, Texas Instruments will assign a special identifying number for each pattern programmed according to the order. The completed devices will be marked with the appropriate TI special device number. It is important that the customer specify not only the output levels desired at all bit locations, but also the other information requested under ordering instructions.
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in contrast, the 74LS471 is a 2048 bit PROM (arranged as 256 x 8 bits). looks like i can program it using my Allmax programmer!

computer screen showing the DOS Allmax software. a dialog titled "Select device type" has an item on the list called "NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR 74LS471"
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the 74HC942 is a Bell 103-compatible 300 baud modem, all in one chip! you'd need quite a bit of external circuitry to interface it to the phone line, however.

breadboard with a 74HC942 chip with some resistors, capacitors, and a 3.58MHz crystal
oscilloscope screen showing a square wave (input to the modem) and the transmitted FSK sine wave.
Zorin =^o.o^=

@tubetime Given that 1983 date code I wonder if that chip was on my Hayes Micromodem IIe in my Apple II.

DHeadshot's Alt

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Could use it for a Kansas City Standard tape interface though?

BSLabs

@tubetime Very nice. I've got a couple Tranz-330s in the stockpile for keypad and VFD reaping... They've got 73K224Ls in them that I believe handle Bell 103. We could have them fight...

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i was looking at the Wikipedia list of 7400 chips (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_) and noticed some really unusual devices.🧵

a pile of logic chips in crumbling ESD foam.
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see, over the past few days i've been sorting through a *ton* of chips that i recently got. and, as it turns out, i actually *have* several of the truly strange devices in the 74xx family. so let's take a look!

plastic drawers stuffed full of chips. mountains of chips.
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