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Ilya Zverev

p.p.s. Google announced today that they are shutting down their link shortener service goo.gl. From 2025, goo.gl shortened links will no longer work:

developers.googleblog.com/en/g

This is why link shorteners cause link rot, because eventually link shortener services close down, even ones run by megacorporations, and all their links break.

Your link will survive a lot longer if you avoid using shorteners. You don't need shorteners on Mastodon, all links count as 23 characters anyway.

p.p.s. Google announced today that they are shutting down their link shortener service goo.gl. From 2025, goo.gl shortened links will no longer work:

developers.googleblog.com/en/g

This is why link shorteners cause link rot, because eventually link shortener services close down, even ones run by megacorporations, and all their links break.

Ilya Zverev

#OpenStreetMap is asking for your help! Google is shutting down its link shortening service next year, and there are some OSM points of interest that require updating: maproulette.org/browse/challen

Here at MapRoulette, we are not huge fans of link shorteners, but we do run our own, mpr.lt, to provide OpenStreetMap with more concise changeset comments that still include a full backlink to the MapRoulette task. Costs less than $100/y to run. Want to chip in? Every $/€ helps! --> openstreetmap.app.neoncrm.com/

#OpenStreetMap is asking for your help! Google is shutting down its link shortening service next year, and there are some OSM points of interest that require updating: maproulette.org/browse/challen

Here at MapRoulette, we are not huge fans of link shorteners, but we do run our own, mpr.lt, to provide OpenStreetMap with more concise changeset comments that still include a full backlink to the MapRoulette task. Costs less than $100/y to run. Want to chip in? Every $/€ helps! -->

Freya

@MapRoulette Gosh so many Google Map links and broken/outdated stores and whatnot. Fixed a few just now though

Ilya Zverev

Are you ready to celebrate TWENTY years of mapping?

Join us 09Aug2024 for OSM's global 20th birthday celebration.

- Share the date/time/coordinates of your event
- Sign the OSM 20th birthday card
- Share photos & map viz with #20YearsofOSM

birthday20.openstreetmap.org/

Are you ready to celebrate TWENTY years of mapping?   Join us 09Aug2024 for the #OpenStreetMap  global 20th birthday celebration.  - Share the date/time/coordinates of your event - Sign the OSM 20th birthday card - Share photos & map viz with #20YearsofOSM   https://birthday20.openstreetmap.org/   image caption: Feye Andal shows of a cake during a get-togeher in Manila, celebrating the 18th OpenStreetMap anniversary
Ilya Zverev

Drastic budget cuts for FOSS, by the EU, and the explanation given is that "because lots of budget are allocated to AI, there is not much left for Internet infrastructure". theregister.com/2024/07/17/fos So here is one more way that the fever over "AI" bullshit does real harm. Infra projects that protect security, privacy, and other vital needs will be underfunded so that more money can be thrown into the "AI" black hole. Sigh.

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Arnan

@cczona eu 'leadership' is as dumb as whatever passes for AI...

Phracker

@cczona

Don't worry, the AI bubble's gonna pop soon due to AI companies literally running out of data to feed into their neural networks, and hopefully the hype will go away.

Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot

@cczona A very wise man once said: the nine most terrifying words in the english language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

This rings especially true in the history of governments trying to "help" free software. They get swallowed up by big money and stop listening to real developers.

What needs to happen is for them to stop propping up *any* big technology, freedom-respecting or not.

Government's only function is to protect private property, and prevent abuses by monopolies.

Ilya Zverev

I woke up in Łódź: today starts the @sotmeu !

Want a schedule on your phone? Go to sotm.osmz.ru/sotmeu24.html and follow instructions, whether you're on Android on iPhone.

Alas made a pull request to Giggity too late, so have to add the schedule link manually.

See you there!

Ilya Zverev

> For a vibrant consumer navigational ecosystem to emerge, society needs to invest in OpenStreetMap as a public good. … City planners should dedicate staffers to updating their roads and bridges on OpenStreetMap. Communities should submit updates with roads and hazards in their local areas

We quite agree! 😍

From @Julia's recent Op. Ed. in the #NewYorkTimes, “Your Driving App Is Leading You Astray”

📰 read here: nytimes.com/2024/07/10/opinion
#OpenStreetMap #OSM #gischat #FreeMaps

> For a vibrant consumer navigational ecosystem to emerge, society needs to invest in OpenStreetMap as a public good. … City planners should dedicate staffers to updating their roads and bridges on OpenStreetMap. Communities should submit updates with roads and hazards in their local areas

We quite agree! 😍

Julian Nyča

@openstreetmap @Julia Plus: OpenStreetMap and OsmAnd as an app come with languages like Sorbian, which Google doesn't even bother to notice.

Ilya Zverev

On the eve of #OpenStreetMap's 20th anniversary, it is slightly upsetting to see the pivotal piece of software that stopped OSM from vanishing in to obscurity and that was, between 2006 and 2014, the 1st contact with editing OSM for most contributors, considered not-notable by @wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t

SK53

@simon @wikipedia @richlv @seav @edward Another example of the arbitrariness of Wikipedia.

I'd think TBL spending a minute or two in a TED talk in 2010 demonstrating editing with Potlatch, might suggest it had a huge cultural impact.

Ilya Zverev

In parts of Asia, including the #Philippines, Grab is a popular ride-hailing brand, and uses #OpenStreetMap data.

While traveling the other day, I noticed a Grab driver using their new navigation app and asked them about it.

They thought it's much better than Google or Waze, and says that he's been trying to convince other drivers he knows to switch to it.

Screenshot of a Grab driver's phone, showing Grab's own navigation app.
MapAm💜re

The driver believes that it provides superior directions, especially one way streets, and restrictions, and saves them time from going circles.

Kudos @osm! 🎉

He mentioned how he wanted to use it for personal navigation, but couldn't, so I told him to try @organicmaps , which I explained also uses @openstreetmap data which he said he'll try.

Sven Geggus

@MapAmore "Grab driver" is a term which sounds very strange for a native German speaker like me as Grab means Grave in German.

Dave

@MapAmore thank you for sharing… it had me curious so I took a look at the Grab Maps Terms and Conditions - would love to know more about how they use the other governmental and commercial providers along with OSM - I’ll keep digging 😊 : grab.com/sg/terms-policies/tra

Ilya Zverev

If you are concerned about PPA aka Privacy-Preserving Attribution in Firefox, please take a deep breath, and then read reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/

It's posted on Reddit to make it easy for folks to engage in conversations. So I invite you to participate there if you want to. But please remember that Mozilla Employees with a fancy green badge on that subreddit are humans, too. :8bitheart:

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kat, but extremely terrifying

@denschub If you’re not a logged in reddit user, you can only see the op and a few comments. Not a super way for everyone to see and participate.

avi2022

@denschub

Human to human, you're getting #slaughtered in the comments cuz you're arguing on behalf of #Mozilla, defending an #indefensible position for #firefox changes. Some #PTSD is possible from the discourse.

The incentives for the CEO & CTO, paid $millions & responsible for the org as a whole are completely different from those for you as an individual.

The best option for you, IMHO, is to recognize when your employer's policies are problematic and simply not engage the #public.

Morgunin

@denschub

Bottom line: adding #ppa as an opt out feature without proactively informing their users was a dick move.

The non apology that followed does nothing to alleviate that slight or restore trust. The whole thing is a communication and public policy failure.

#Mozilla is just another company releasing a product we have to continually check and be wary of. That shit is tiresome and it’s extremely disappointing from them.

They can wipe that lie about respecting privacy off their website.

Ilya Zverev

It was a real pleasure for our team to update and develop a new website for @qgis! Thanks to the community for the trust and support!

Ilya Zverev

advice sought: so now i need to publicly list a phone number on the Downpour app store listing? where can i get a phone number from? i don't want to put my actual number there for obvious reasons.

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martin

@v we use A&A for this stuff at work, and they're solid if a bit clunky sometimes. not sure how they compare on price, but from memory they're cheap enough that cost isn't the major concern

jbauer

@v You could use jmp.chat jmp.chat/ which goes over XMPP (might be USA/Canada only, not sure)

Alan Hazelden

@v I'm in the same boat and was looking into Skype as an option but now researching some options from these comments too

Ilya Zverev

Yup, it's true. Firefox 128 includes new adtech features that are turned on by default and announced with very little fanfare, so most people might not even know they're there. :blobcatverysad:

Well, this is me telling you they're there. You might want to go ahead and take a minute to opt out.

Here's the little helpful explainer from Mozilla about how it all works:

support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/p

My read seems to be: Mozilla says website surveillance is generally bad and should be defended against. Cool. No notes. Firefox actually has a lot of nice anti-tracking and privacy features there and that's the main reason why I like Firefox.

But, and I swear I'm not even joking a little bit here, Mozilla goes on to say that advertisers might be happier if Firefox itself just tracked you directly and sent activity reports back to them.

Doesn't that sound great?

Now, to Mozilla's credit, they claim to anonymize the activity reports. And you can still meaningfully opt out of the whole system.

But WTF, mate?! I use Firefox *because* it fights against adtech. Or at least it used to. Now, Mozilla just lets adtech right in the front door and hopes you won't notice? :blobcat_thisisfine:

Well, we noticed. Mozilla is damage and we need to route around it.

UPDATE: The about:config setting for this is `dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled`. It's a bool. Set it to false to turn it off.

Yup, it's true. Firefox 128 includes new adtech features that are turned on by default and announced with very little fanfare, so most people might not even know they're there. :blobcatverysad:

Well, this is me telling you they're there. You might want to go ahead and take a minute to opt out.

Here's the little helpful explainer from Mozilla about how it all works:

A screenshot from the Firefox "Privacy & Security" settings page showing "Website Advertising Preferences" with a checked-by-default option to "Allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement". The description beneath reads "This helps sites understand how their ads perform without collecting data about you" with a link to "Learn More" that I copied into the text of the toot.
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Captain Packrat

@cuchaz I have 129 beta 2 for Android and I can't find that setting anywhere in the menu, but it is hiding in about:config.

Richardus

@cuchaz Why does Firefox add the same evil thing google did. Thanks for warning. Need to turn it off straight away.

Steve Woods

@cuchaz Thanks for the warning.

Settings changed. :)

Ilya Zverev

Your attention please:

Maybe you've never heard about it but since 2020, the Next Generation Internet programs, a sub-branch of the European Commission’s Horizon Europe program, have been cascading funding (via @nlnet calls) open source software in Europe. The massive fundings have enabled a great deal of free software development in recent years, and all without too many constraints (with too few transparency and monitoring, though… which urgently needs to be improved). Unfortunately, these NGI programs seem to have been withdrawn from the next round of Horizon Europe fundings to give priority to AI bullshit.

As a result, we’ve been invited to contact the National Contact Points, Horizon Europe’s national representatives, to express our concern and the importance of maintaining public funding for free software. With this in mind, we wrote an open letter at Petites Singularités and thought it would make sense to fork it out with Hackstub and ARN in Strasbourg for the French NCP to get other French-speaking free software orgas to sign. I’m thinking in particular of the software that has benefited from this funding, such as Yunohost, but also of the Kittens that use this same software.

We can also announce that this topic will be part of the central theme of the next #OFFDEM in Brussels, on the first weekend of February 2025. There's not yet an exact title, but we’ll be discussing financing and community structuring for free software over the next few years.

If you want to sign the french-speaking version of this letter, there's a pad for it: pad.public.cat/lettre-NCP-NGI

#ngi #publicMoneyPublicCode #floss

Your attention please:

Maybe you've never heard about it but since 2020, the Next Generation Internet programs, a sub-branch of the European Commission’s Horizon Europe program, have been cascading funding (via @nlnet calls) open source software in Europe. The massive fundings have enabled a great deal of free software development in recent years, and all without too many constraints (with too few transparency and monitoring, though… which urgently needs to be improved). Unfortunately, these NGI...

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Daniel

@hackstub @nlnet We've seen a similar pattern with public grants in the startup domain.

They often require a startup being VC funded already in order to apply for public grants.

What this means in practice is that VCs systematically get to decide what gets built and what doesn't and public grants just piggyback on that.

VCs are all over AI right now and this means public grants will also go to in that direction.

Wild incentives at play here.

Debacle

@hackstub @nlnet

My impression is, that about every second #Jabber​/​#XMPP development is funded via this #EU program. Defunding it would be very bad for #digitalSovereignty and #freeSoftware.

@EUCommission, don't do that!

#AI #NGI

marcin mikołajczak
Where can I find the exact document for 2025 that doesn’t include NGI?
Ilya Zverev

One week left! On Thursday 18th July we'll start the OpenStreetMap Europe 2024 conference.
The time is short, but you may still get there, the tickets are available (concessions for active contributors at around 60 EUR), and the speakers are stellar! Reach us in case of any questions.

Schedule: cfp.openstreetmap.org.pl/state
Tickets: tobilet.pl/state-of-the-map-eu
Main website: stateofthemap.eu/

#SOTMEU2024
#StateoftheMapEurope
#OSM
#OpenStreetMap

One week left! On Thursday 18th July we'll start the OpenStreetMap Europe 2024 conference.
The time is short, but you may still get there, the tickets are available (concessions for active contributors at around 60 EUR), and the speakers are stellar! Reach us in case of any questions.

Schedule: cfp.openstreetmap.org.pl/state
Tickets: tobilet.pl/state-of-the-map-eu
Main website: stateofthemap.eu/

Ilya Zverev

Currently slightly torn between gloating over (not nearly enough) karma payback for @nlnet, sympathy for the affected projects, and observing that the pecunia non olet approach to financing OSS projects might not be quite as sustainable as some people thought. kolektiva.social/@hackstub/112

Simon Poole

The EU moving funds to silly stuff for industry policy reasons actually has a ~35 year old tie in to the @nlnet angle of this BTW.

Ilya Zverev

Oh my god, @sotmeu is in a week! Time to start working on the talks :/

At @foss4geurope I had several people telling me they didn't know of the sotm eu conference. I feel like we've botched communications this year.

Ilya Zverev

📍 State of the Map Europe 2024 Conference
🗺️ Lodz, Poland | 📅 July 18-21, 2024

It's just a few days away! Don’t miss out – you can still sign up: stateofthemap.eu/

#SOTMEU2024 #Mapping #OpenStreetMap
Heavily discounted tickets are available for active mappers, see openstreetmap.org.pl/2024/sotm

Simon Justesen

@openstreetmap Will you be livestreaming/recording the talks?

Ilya Zverev

1/3 @IvanSanchez at #FOSS4G: "something something Cyber Resilience Act (#CRA) something something"

plus some joking¹, criticism, etc.:

- legislation = program
- CRA: hey, we should do something reg. security of software and stuff
- CRA is quite short and simple, but …
- #FLOSS foundations took a look and … "what the heck?!"
- and programmers are taking things litterally¹
- current state seems to be "it's difficult" and thus also "maybe no big deal, but still risky"

¹ noc.social/@doublebyte/1127287

1/3 @IvanSanchez at #FOSS4G: "something something Cyber Resilience Act (#CRA) something something"

plus some joking¹, criticism, etc.:

- legislation = program
- CRA: hey, we should do something reg. security of software and stuff
- CRA is quite short and simple, but …
- #FLOSS foundations took a look and … "what the heck?!"
- and programmers are taking things litterally¹
- current state seems to be "it's difficult" and thus also "maybe no big deal, but still risky"

Ivan Sanchez at speaker post, with some FOSS4G posters around and title of his presentation above:

"A critic analysis of the CRA"
Peter Hanecak

2/3 Example 1: If I pay say Amazon some money for a VM with Linux and PostgreSQL, will CRA cover Amazon?

Well, maybe, according to Amazon lawyers, no. Because they are charging just for the VM and that software is provided for free by somebody else. (And those "somebody else" might be thus covered by CRA, even if not getting any money from those VM payments.)

Ivan Sanchez with a slide showing what portion of money for a Linux+PostgreSQL VM goes where:

- some ¢ per hour goes to Amazon for "EC2"
- some ¢ per hour goes to Amazon for "Backplane"
- 0¢ to nobody for PostgreSQL
Ilya Zverev

Moved into a guesthouse in Tartu. A bit puzzled nobody at @foss4geurope but me is mapping with @everydoor.

Overpass Turbo screenshot for an area in Tartu (near Aardla station). There are 79 POI mapped, as it shows by check_date=2024-07-02 tag query.
Jiří Eischmann

@zverik @foss4geurope @everydoor I didn't know about the app, downloading it right now.

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