 All you people getting excited that Jack Dorsey's new social media site no longer requires invite codes are like those people tearing off their masks and throwing them in the air as soon as they weren't legally required. You have learned nothing. And you are making the world worse. 138 comments
 @stevefoerster @jwz And then later, me when it gets defederated for failing to moderate its users.  This must be the real reason why they aren't bothering to support ActivityPub. It'll be months of work for about 12 seconds of federation.   @williamgunn That might be the reverse but maybe could be adapted. I would like to have #bluesky users feeds appear as if they are Mastodon users that I can follow as usual in Mastodon. I do not care as much if I can reply to them though.    @BonehouseWasps It's a joke about cryptocurrency: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hodl.asp @BonehouseWasps@mastodon.social @jwz@mastodon.social try to use the last two sections as bandcamp redeem codes.       @fraying @codinghorror scolding people is, letβs be honest, a core use case for the entire @jwz web experience I know I shouldnβt but I still get an occasional chuckle out of βchoke on a bucket of cocksβ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2003/05/no-good-deed-goes-unpunished/ @luis_in_brief @fraying @jwz look, I also enjoy a lot of self destructive behaviors myself, now and then, but I also want the world to actually change in some reasonable timeframe  This is great news, so do you happen to know the answer to what *does work*? because I think we collectively need to know, and so far all I hear is what doesn't work. Scolding doesn't work for me either.. Living by example works great for me, but doesn't enable discouraging my mom/dad/kids/pastor/neighbors/workplaceproximityacquiantence/friends/family from making the stupid choices for the big billionairistas... So what works? sounds great, except the #fediverse is a wide, sparse, network of community instances.. Hardly the marketing behemoth of a Centralized Corporationβ’, so "popular with users" is now exceedingly difficult, largely impeded by (basically) our individual Dunbar numbers.. TikTok was already a gargantuan corporation with a limitless marketing campaign when it started.. So... What... We Open Source ad buys for the superbowl pimping ActivityPub? How do community gardens get famous?  That's cool man. I appreciate the discourse. My point is just yeah.. I'm gonna keep scolding people til they're shamed into submission, and ditch their corporate overlords for the sweet sweet life of doing all the hard work of being responsible for their own data.. easy peasy! :D Oh, i was just wondering what works to spread the use of Technologies-That-Don't-Exploit-Users.. I mean, even health policy.. If it ends in "policy", it doesn't have a marketing department. Marketing works, but I don't see a lot of Kickstarters/GoFundMes for Advertising/Marketing of Open Source alternatives to corporately marketed data plantations (where you're the cotton). I've been told scolding doesn't work either. True, but it's cathartic. So, what works? Makes sense. The OP was asking about a social media site, so that's what I was addressing. I imagine policy outreach *is* different? It might even work to make "democratizing social media" a political platform? That feeds into my "Software is not economic, software is political" philosophy. As it stands however, people only think "software" and see "billionaires"... Software is stuck in the "market" and not in "community", so value is orthogonal to function. @codinghorror @jwz Oh I don't know. Maybe some people are susceptible to scolding, but are really quiet about it.  What a weird comment, at least to me... how is that comparable? Or are you just annoyed with outspoken Linux users and felt your need to express it extraneously from the topic? @jwz fucking, this... thank you for saying it. I say it too, but i'm just a rando. More less-random people should say it.. So, thank you! @jwz Look man, I know me and my pops had some fizzy lifting drinks, but I think your overreaction shows need of some therapy big time. I'm keeping this spiky gobstopper.  @tnypxl @jwz I care? (whoever I am). One cannot watch people make the same mistake again and again without getting at least a *little* sad? You *are* right.. but, you know.. being some rando.. It doesn't make much difference that I wish people would choose platforms to network socially, instead of platforms that exploit and manipulate every user on behalf of financial networks.. π€· @jwz Bonus demerits to the people that claim that Dorsey - who holds a board seat - is not involved with Bluesky and deleted his account there. I have so many bridges to sell to them. @jwz And that was the fastest block Iβve ever done. Learn to not be a fucking prick.   @jwz tbh, #Mastodon had a massive opportunity and momentum, but it kind of blew it by not being able to react to that huge spike of interest. Not enough speed, not enough activity to maintain the interest. It may get a second chance (perhaps through federation with #Threads), but I donβt think itβs fair to blame the people for looking to #BlueSky. At the end of the day, all of this is mostly just for fun anyway. @jwz fair enough. I donβt personally have an issue with someone being a billionaire if they play their cards right. I just hope everyone gets to play cards. @jwz oh on a side note I just noticed youβre at DNA Lounge. I visited there every time I was in SF! But been ages since Iβve been able to pop over from Finland. Not since Covid started.   @jwz
> getting excited that Jack Dorsey's new social media site no longer requires invite codes They were never really bothered about what 'we' (who've stuck here) bothered/care about. They need that 'engagement', simple as that. One person that I really liked (and made me laugh) even went back Xwitter. Sad, but oh well, let them be. Let's refrain from calling them out. It can be frustrating.  I MEAAAAN... SAME SHIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYYXTGyvDmQ all manure piles form El Salvador more like Vatican anti women ' slavador   @jwz didn't sign up because I don't have it in me for another social media site. π I didn't throw my mask in the air. I refused to wear one. If you think Mastodon is a social/liberal bastion, the people on BlueSky make Mastodon look like hard core conservative media. I was on the BlueSky invite list for a year or more. Got accepted about a year ago. Why would I, a conservative, have a presence on Mastodon, Blue Sky and Twitter? I enjoy discussions with almost everyone as long as they are kept civil and don't get nasty.  @jwz Why? What is wrong with the Open-Source, decentralised and federated AT Protocol (https://atproto.com) that BlueSky operates on? It's functionally the same as Mastodon but with superior (and optional) content discovery and feed algorithms!  @jwz bluesky is already crap anyway. i do not care. no longer going there. i will log in once in a while to check the toxicity levels, and then quickly log out again. :) @jwz well... Its a matter of choice really, personality i have chosen Mastodon, a radical change from x/twitter, some did the same others will go for that because human curiosity π€   Exactly. Social media belong in the hands of the community, not in those of cooperate tycoons. Open source, standardized and regulated.  We are creatures of habit and weβre often addicted to certain forms of social media interactions. Some want controverse and conflict. Others like presumably you and me prefer community and conversation.  @jwz I'm sure he learned his lesson by being lavishly rewarded for all the bad decisions he made at Twitter. Nobody recognizes their mistakes and correct behavior like a dot-com billionaire. Just look at Elon. |
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@jwz Dorsey was always a gnob