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Jeff Atwood

@mousey @jwz building alternatives and making them extremely popular with users. Basically the TikTok strategery.

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Internet Rando

@codinghorror @jwz

sounds great, except the #fediverse is a wide, sparse, network of community instances.. Hardly the marketing behemoth of a Centralized Corporation™, so "popular with users" is now exceedingly difficult, largely impeded by (basically) our individual Dunbar numbers..

TikTok was already a gargantuan corporation with a limitless marketing campaign when it started.. So... What... We Open Source ad buys for the superbowl pimping ActivityPub?

How do community gardens get famous?

Jeff Atwood

@mousey @jwz I never promised either of you a rose garden

Internet Rando

@codinghorror @jwz

That's cool man. I appreciate the discourse. My point is just yeah.. I'm gonna keep scolding people til they're shamed into submission, and ditch their corporate overlords for the sweet sweet life of doing all the hard work of being responsible for their own data..

easy peasy! :D

Davey

@codinghorror @mousey @jwz
personally, I think the fact that so many people want to act, and be treated like customers when it comes to this stuff is significant.

There's no point running around after these people cus first, they'll suck up all your time with demands, and second, they'll trot off to the first VC-backed alternative when it comes along. How much oxygen was sucked out of the room in late '22 by people who were angry it wasn't Twitter, and where are they now?

Davey

@codinghorror @mousey @jwz
Ultimately, if people want service, they should go somewhere where they will be served.

If they want to participate in something, they will.

Jeff Atwood

@davey_cakes @mousey @jwz yeah, turns out hard problems are hard. But if you're good at what you do, then you view that as a noble challenge, not as an impossibility.

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