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Samuel Leuenberger

@davidrevoy @ariane I have a hard time understanding all this angst about Threads, besides a gross misunderstanding of how the Fediverse works. The misunderstanding is quite acceptable for an artist or most of the users, far less so for some mastodon admins who decided to block Threads.
I'm therefore inviting anyone thinking Threads is dangerous to at least read Mastodon's creator thoughs about it (and dispel some weird beliefs on the way) :
blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/

14 Dec 2023 at 17:32 | Wall-to-wall | Open on cyberplace.social
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David Revoy

@Leuenberg @ariane Désolé de ne pas pouvoir comprendre, je ne suis en effet qu'un artiste et c'est chose normale. /s

14 Dec 2023 at 17:43 | Open on framapiaf.org
Samuel Leuenberger

@davidrevoy @ariane Sorry about that, I initially posted in French out of habit.

14 Dec 2023 at 17:49 | Open on cyberplace.social
ilja
@Leuenberg the artist you are talking to is french, so you posting in french isn't the problem. i'm pretty sure the problem is your apparent denigrating idea that someone doesn't understand tech just because they are an artist.
14 Dec 2023 at 19:44 | Open on ilja.space
Rémi Letot

@Leuenberg I have a hard time understanding all that welcoming of Threads, besides a gross misunderstanding of how surveillance capitalism or Meta work. The misunderstanding is quite acceptable for technical people, but I'm quite relieved that a number of fediverse admins decided to block Threads. I'm therefore inviting anyone thinking Thread's arrival on the fediverse is ok to think again. @davidrevoy @ariane

14 Dec 2023 at 17:45 | Open on mamot.fr
Rémi Letot
Samuel Leuenberger

@RLetot @davidrevoy @ariane You should really read Eugene Rochko's paper I linked, he precisely address the argument of the embrace, extend, extinguish threat using also XMPP.
TL;DR The worse that could happen to the feddiverse is stay like it is already.
Admins blocking Threads are not protecting the Fediverse, they're weakening it by refusing to their users the choice to follow or not someone on Threads.

14 Dec 2023 at 18:14 | Open on cyberplace.social
Rémi Letot

@Leuenberg what makes you think that I have not read it ??? And that I don't just disagree with it ? Eugene is the very definition of the « technical people » to which I refer in my post, no wonder he doesn't see a problem. Thread is not connecting to the fediverse, it is allowing the fediverse to connect to and interact with it. And if you think that they're doing it out of kindness or without agenda, I don't know what to say...
@davidrevoy @ariane

14 Dec 2023 at 19:10 | Open on mamot.fr
Moon
@Leuenberg @davidrevoy @ariane Mastodon creator didn't invent the Fediverse, wasn't here first. The Mastodon creator is very self-interested though. He had secret meetings with them too. Not interested in his opinion.
14 Dec 2023 at 19:21 | Open on shitposter.club
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@Leuenberg @davidrevoy @ariane The way the Fediverse works on a technical level doesn't really matters, except for the fact that posts are sent very widely by default and how you'd end up with a all-or-nothing communication with Meta.

The way Meta makes money via harvesting data and people manipulation on the other hand is important, the fact that Meta is proprietary is also important because it means they can do extensions without others being easily able to follow or solve interoperability issues.

Gargron here is playing a dangerous game and is trying to lessen the harm Meta can do.
@Leuenberg @davidrevoy @ariane The way the Fediverse works on a technical level doesn't really matters, except for the fact that posts are sent very widely by default and how you'd end up with a all-or-nothing communication with Meta.

14 Dec 2023 at 20:02 | Open on queer.hacktivis.me
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