@Gargron I, for one, am looking forward to this. It's one more nail in X's coffin. Some of my friends moved to Threads, so now I can follow them again.

Others moved to Bluesky. I can't follow them YET, but it seems they're also trialling federation, so I might be able to soon.

Pretty soon, anyone still on X and nowhere else is really going to start feeling the isolation.

@Gargron that's also my take. I am curious to see what Threads quote posts would look like on Mastodon though. (Still personally really excited about that roadmap item.)

@Gargron yes, I'd like to keep my home base here, but have access to the other platforms through the bridges. Hopefully, everyone behaves.

@Gargron except for the trigger happy admins already blocking threads for whatever reason lol

@Gargron Also puts pressure on Bluesky (which has some traction in some German bubbles) to federate fast, too.

@Gargron I’m really excited for this. I’ve mainly been using Threads because people I wanted to follow were more active there, but I’m way more inclined to spend time on Mastodon if I can see everything there at the same time.

@Gargron Very exciting! Will Threads folks be able to see it if we @ them?

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Honestly Facebook has a lot to atone for before I will let them attempt to embrace and extend my corner of the Fediverse like they did RSS.

@Gargron do we really believe that they are doing this because they believe in supporting the fediverse?

@Gargron i totally agree. I think this could be a great boost for Mastodon.

@Gargron Threads' still not globally available

@Gargron This is awesome! I was able to follow @mosseri from my #Mastodon, #Misskey & #Pixelfed accounts!

This is huge, especially when you consider many people, politicians & brands on #Threads will consider setting up their own instances under their own domain & connect with the rest of the #Fediverse!

Also with prominent sites using #WordPress, we could see everyone from #NASA to the #WhiteHouse join the Fediverse (pending activation of the #ActivityPub plugin).

@Gargron FB mines data from others (related users) than specific users. Does the same apply to Threads vs Mastodon?

@Gargron one thing that just comes to mind is zombie accounts.

Since #greedflation and the other atrocities I have #negativetrust in corporations. This means if they do something like this, I assume malice.

Now I figured what could happen:
- put ads in every 2nd post of #threads to fedi federation
- do federation only reading so you cant see threads posts on mastodon but both on threads = people leave
- spam the fediverse with bot accounts that sway public opinion like facebook

@Gargron the argument works also the other way round.
If I can get the fediverse from my data collection site of choice, I have no motivation to make an account on mastodon.

@Gargron this is a valid reason not to have a Threads account and just keep using Mastodon 🙂

@Gargron Ok. I’ll behave. You have to start with assuming good intentions.

If actual #interoperability appears, where Threads users can find other ActivityPub users as easily as Threads users, and #Fediverse users aren’t made to jump through hoops to get followed in there, I’m all for it.

If #Meta doesn’t send in it’s goons and exercise it’s immense monetary might to take over nonprofits and boards that decide the future of the #protocol, I’m all for it.

Let’s see. 🕑

@Gargron freedom of choice is the key principle. I already blocked all Meta subnets on our pacifist mastodon instance because of the role of this company in promoting nationalism, white supremacism and even genocide in Burma, according to UN reports. I won’t block or silence communities who will act otherwise, and I hope that communities determined to keep evil companies outside of their door won’t be marginalized in the Fediverse, which is my greatest fear and an actual risk.

@Gargron I can relate to that. It is similar to "I can use LibreOffice but still interact with Microsoft Office".

@gargron Currently you have to choose between Pizza, Indian or Mexican. But with new Chicken Tikka Tamale Pizza…

@Gargron

I just don't want Meta to scrape my posts and images that I put here.

I want nobody from Meta to read what I post here *unless* I choose to connect with them. And even then, I want to keep control. Which I doubt is possible.

Yes, I am on FB. But I do post very differently over there because I am aware of the total lack of privacy over there.

Same goes for Xitter.

@Gargron I don't care about interoperability as much as I care of having my social network experience free from corporate interests and all the data grabbing, LLM-feeding, "engagement"-driving, ad-selling, election-manipulating anti-democratic bullshit they bring in to inevitably ruin everything nice.

So unless Meta is somehow deprivatized and transformed into an international, community-owned network, I will defederate.

@Gargron but are people using Threads? Twitter/X integration would probably be a bigger deal - but there's no way that'll ever happen.

@Gargron @stux https://media1.tenor.com/m/gZx9WT37TkMAAAAC/braveheart-unite-us.gif

@Gargron Some of my old twitter pals went over there. Excited to see their content again ^^

@Gargron I agree with you on this.

@Gargron My main reason why I am excited for this is that I will be able to browse threads trouh a third party Mastodon client 🙏

@Gargron is there a way to completely block a server from accessing my Mastodon profile and have a whitelist for specific accounts from that block server? That way i’d feel a bit better regarding Threads. Although the feature is awesome, as long as Threads is managed by Facebook, i just see “Threats” as the real name! Facebook is a 100% money driven corporation, they do not care for standards or goodwild features…

@Gargron as many on Threads/Instagram won't come to Mastodon and the like, it'll be good to have some way to connecting with them. 🙂

@Gargron Umm, there’s more than Mastodon and Threads as alternatives to Twixter. But you must know that, so what am I missing?

@Gargron I agree here 💯

@Gargron i would agree ASSUMING they actually follow thru and allow full access to thier network. Honestly I doubt they will… Read only access for a handful of accounts is not going to help much and i for one don’t trust Zuck.

@Gargron
I was happy to choose between Mastodon, X, and Threads so I could leave the corrupt billionaires and their fascist power plays behind.

It was an intentional choice.

@Gargron very interesting update. So I could finally close the unused business accounts in the x-bird and open in threads and follow them from here. Or I could open them here and people on threads could follow. Is that how it will work?

@Gargron for all of us that leveraged the bird.makeup hack, to remain connected with the holdouts, do you anticipate anyone building a mapping utility that might permit Mastodon users to follow those :twitter: holdouts that finally made the move to :mastodon: or 🧵 ?

@Gargron Um was geht es denn hier eigentlich?

@Gargron they make money from ads, while you deliver web services for free? seems odd doesn't it?

I think what's needed is a 3rd-party app for Mastodon that does have ads, people will use it.

If done right some of that money can pay for Mastodon's costs.

People like ads, I've decided. Weird but I'm pretty sure about it.

@Gargron I really want to quote-tweet this sockless wonder. Please???
https://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/C01zMgWp4V-

@Gargron the only thing I miss from Threads is the ability to limit who can comment on my posts. Sure, there are private posts etc., but I'd like to have it a little more fine-grained.

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@Gargron Those who start playing with the devil will end up in hell.

#FCKMeta

@Gargron Agreed. I'm really looking forward to fédération being enabled by Threads and Tumblr, the latter of which has recently also reiterated that they are still working on AcitivityPub support.
Wordpress has also been improving their AcitivityPub support quite massively recently, things are looking pretty good!

@Gargron Do you still trust meta? Their only interest is to harvest & sell user data. I am really concerned about meta creeping into our privacy. Are there any checks in place to prevent data collection?

@Gargron
Your reasoning boils down to: "Selling cigarettes brings customers through the door!".

I have to say, I'm not particularly happy about that.

@gargron So Threads won't get blocked from mastodon.social and mastodon.online ? Maybe I have to switch servers again since "my" admin currently blocks Threads - and I'm not really happy about that.

@gargron Please allow follower only comments! After the european start of Threads I don't fear that vain influencers could misuse this feature (they have their accounts there) but it would save us from Threads trolls.