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@EyalL @GryphonSK or they cared only so long until they discovered that not caring paid far more @GryphonSK It's difficult to be selfish when you find out that other people exist and might need some help...  @GeofCox @GryphonSK I've always wondered what exactly "left" and "right" were supposed to reference or even mean... but I never looked it up. That sounds almost entirely unsurprising - thanks for sharing! @GeofCox @GryphonSK That explanation of the origins of left and right is interesting, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the modern left has values synonymous with realism. For example, in the area of disability advocacy, it seems to me that reality skews right, in that right-leaning disabled people are more accepting of the reality that we're a minority, we'll never get the whole world to accommodate us, and thus we have to adapt to the world as it is. But maybe I misunderstand what you mean.  @GeofCox @GryphonSK Every discussion of "the centre" comes off like a straw man to me. They are always wrong in the opposite direction of whoever is speaking. Politics takes place on a number of axes. A party might be in the centre of a couple of axes, but not all of them. "The Left", the Democratic Party and Pre-Reagan republicans were on the same side wrt government importance. The Tea Party and now the "Freedom Coalition" are firmly on the other side. @GryphonSK @ElpasYou_2 @GryphonSK George Carlin had a whole bit about “why the American education system is fucked up and will never be fixed.” And the republicans stripped the context and used his video to argue for defunding education.  @GryphonSK Adam Something made a good video outlining good personal growth through university. @GryphonSK I feel like education saved quite some (mostly male) "edgy teens" of my generation from becoming right wing trolls. @GryphonSK   i hate to be that guy but I don't think that's necessarily true, I work as a pollster, i talk to a lot of republicans with multiple college degrees, i don't understand it, but it's not just a matter of more or less education > when people become more educated they become acutely aware of the suffering of others and of their own moral responsibility to do something about it. You don't think all those CEO's of megacorporations or technocrats in the Pentagon are highly educated? @big_louse @GryphonSK I honestly believe there is a skew towards psychopathy in high responsibility jobs, specially in big multinational corporations. I don't have proof nor doubts about it. There have been studies that psycopathy is over represented in leadership, tho i wouldn't take them too literally https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/08/the-science-behind-why-so-many-successful-millionaires-are-psychopaths-and-why-it-doesnt-have-to-be-a-bad-thing.html @GryphonSK This is a fun slogan for patting yourself on the back (see also: "reality has a liberal bias") but when the right see this, they don't reevaluate their position based on the facts...they simply *reject the existence of facts* and claim that up is down and down is up, which is how you get to present intractable situation. You cannot debate someone who does not accept the basic framework of reality. @GryphonSK It used to be that ideology was about different ways of responding to the same set of facts that everyone could mostly agree on... and it was about why and how to deal with those facts, with views diverging along political lines. Now there is no shared reality to disagree on. This is especially noticeable in the USA, where Republicans have fully unmoored from anything resembling reality, but through the US' outsized influence this brand of ignorance has also spread to other places. @GryphonSK social science, arts, and humanities also teach subtlety and incrementalism. The worst of the right is stuck with "bad things will still happen, so why try to stop bad things" on any subject that's convenient to them. Turns out, harm reduction is way better than just feeling sad about things being terrible. |
@GryphonSK only if you care about other people, which isn't really something you can teach
There are very smart right wing people. They just don't care about others