Gregory's Server@GeofCox @GryphonSK That explanation of the origins of left and right is interesting, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the modern left has values synonymous with realism. For example, in the area of disability advocacy, it seems to me that reality skews right, in that right-leaning disabled people are more accepting of the reality that we're a minority, we'll never get the whole world to accommodate us, and thus we have to adapt to the world as it is. But maybe I misunderstand what you mean.
@matt @GryphonSK
I think the cross-purposes we're at here is that I'm thinking of political views - not the people that hold them.
Right-leaning people will be realistic, and tell the truth, about all sorts of things - including perhaps the minority status of disabled people - but not, generally, about.politics, since their belief that authority trumps reason and evidence leads them away from honestly engaging with reality.
For example, in most European countries there was no strong political division over covid masks or vaccinations, but in the US these did become politicised - leading many right-leaning people to behave irrationally.
@matt @GryphonSK
I think the cross-purposes we're at here is that I'm thinking of political views - not the people that hold them.
Right-leaning people will be realistic, and tell the truth, about all sorts of things - including perhaps the minority status of disabled people - but not, generally, about.politics, since their belief that authority trumps reason and evidence leads them away from honestly engaging with reality.